1 00:05:57,890 --> 00:00:36,760 [Music] 2 00:05:57,900 --> 00:06:20,520 you 3 00:06:32,129 --> 00:06:27,379 [Music] 4 00:06:35,159 --> 00:06:32,139 good evening ladies and gentlemen I am 5 00:06:39,089 --> 00:06:35,169 your host Chris George Zuger and you 6 00:06:40,980 --> 00:06:39,099 have entered the den of lore and this is 7 00:06:45,860 --> 00:06:40,990 a week two with our D mixer ended it's 8 00:06:48,749 --> 00:06:45,870 been a crazy crazy week in the studio so 9 00:06:49,980 --> 00:06:48,759 you know what this is a live TV show I 10 00:06:52,230 --> 00:06:49,990 could pretty well do whatever the hell I 11 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:52,240 want to redo that because I did not like 12 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:54,849 that volume at all that's what we got 13 00:07:01,309 --> 00:06:55,050 here 14 00:07:05,429 --> 00:07:03,239 it's a beautiful part about having your 15 00:07:12,869 --> 00:07:05,439 own show I can do whatever the [\h__\h] I 16 00:07:16,529 --> 00:07:12,879 want good evening ladies and gentlemen I 17 00:07:18,929 --> 00:07:16,539 am your host Chris George Zuger and you 18 00:07:21,899 --> 00:07:18,939 have entered the den of lore please do 19 00:07:23,579 --> 00:07:21,909 pull your chairs up to the fire and grab 20 00:07:25,259 --> 00:07:23,589 yourselves a glass of scotch because 21 00:07:30,209 --> 00:07:25,269 we're gonna learn some cool [\h__\h] tonight 22 00:07:32,249 --> 00:07:30,219 courtesy of well Jim Maillard who is 23 00:07:35,339 --> 00:07:32,259 filling in for Steven Bassett who seems 24 00:07:38,669 --> 00:07:35,349 to be missing in action it is possible 25 00:07:40,979 --> 00:07:38,679 that well well he's either sleeping or 26 00:07:42,299 --> 00:07:40,989 you know the g-men have gotten him 27 00:07:45,959 --> 00:07:42,309 because he's getting too close to the 28 00:07:47,999 --> 00:07:45,969 truth and well we're gonna have a gonna 29 00:07:50,249 --> 00:07:48,009 have ourselves a good to open discussion 30 00:07:52,499 --> 00:07:50,259 tonight and probably open up the phone 31 00:07:57,780 --> 00:07:52,509 lines to see how everyone's doing but 32 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:00,150 I am going to turn up my headphones just 33 00:08:04,580 --> 00:08:02,710 a little bit so I'm not screaming into 34 00:08:09,420 --> 00:08:04,590 the microphone 35 00:08:11,370 --> 00:08:09,430 let me just turn on the webcam how is 36 00:08:12,990 --> 00:08:11,380 everybody doing tonight I see a lot of 37 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:13,000 beautiful people in the chat room again 38 00:08:16,770 --> 00:08:14,290 thank you very much for your patience 39 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:16,780 and I will tell you what tell you what 40 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:19,450 happened I am apparently having the 41 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:24,330 absolute week from help let's see here 42 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:26,770 I've been working 22 hour days the last 43 00:08:32,610 --> 00:08:30,730 week on a very very noble cause which 44 00:08:36,300 --> 00:08:32,620 I'm going to be announcing at the top of 45 00:08:40,950 --> 00:08:36,310 the show after after my opening usual 46 00:08:43,230 --> 00:08:40,960 funny dry humored [\h__\h] session see how 47 00:08:45,180 --> 00:08:43,240 22 hours days since last Thursday I've 48 00:08:49,700 --> 00:08:45,190 got some multiple clients going on in 49 00:08:54,270 --> 00:08:49,710 addition to one very important thing 50 00:08:56,820 --> 00:08:54,280 we're going to be holding another joint 51 00:08:59,010 --> 00:08:56,830 Anthony West fundraiser that is right 52 00:09:02,070 --> 00:08:59,020 ladies and gentlemen another John 53 00:09:04,730 --> 00:09:02,080 Anthony West fundraiser and I'm going to 54 00:09:06,870 --> 00:09:04,740 just bring that up in just a moment here 55 00:09:09,660 --> 00:09:06,880 and that's going to be happening July 56 00:09:12,180 --> 00:09:09,670 22nd that is a Saturday that is one 57 00:09:14,130 --> 00:09:12,190 Saturday from this Saturday it's going 58 00:09:17,130 --> 00:09:14,140 to be online it's going to be through 59 00:09:18,570 --> 00:09:17,140 sacred geometry international we are 60 00:09:23,070 --> 00:09:18,580 sponsoring it along with a fade to black 61 00:09:25,830 --> 00:09:23,080 and as you all do know that we've been 62 00:09:26,630 --> 00:09:25,840 working very closely with clay and with 63 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:26,640 Zoey 64 00:09:33,540 --> 00:09:31,690 and again for Jones family Celeste and 65 00:09:36,150 --> 00:09:33,550 Zeke if you're listening again thank you 66 00:09:38,910 --> 00:09:36,160 very much for being the most amazing 67 00:09:40,860 --> 00:09:38,920 people and and you know welcoming the 68 00:09:43,290 --> 00:09:40,870 help of open arms again join Anthony 69 00:09:45,830 --> 00:09:43,300 West is an absolute treasure of a man in 70 00:09:48,630 --> 00:09:45,840 terms of knowledge as well as in heart 71 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:48,640 so you know it's you got to do the good 72 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:52,810 things for good things sake and it's the 73 00:09:55,830 --> 00:09:54,010 same thing to treat people you the way 74 00:09:57,270 --> 00:09:55,840 you'd want to be treated and for 75 00:10:00,270 --> 00:09:57,280 somebody who's awesome is John Anthony 76 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:00,280 West you know it's a matter of making 77 00:10:04,519 --> 00:10:02,610 sure that you 78 00:10:06,379 --> 00:10:04,529 oh we got a remix on that one again 79 00:10:11,479 --> 00:10:06,389 that's a third time we've heard that 80 00:10:12,410 --> 00:10:11,489 song now one thing that I did want to be 81 00:10:15,460 --> 00:10:12,420 able to mention if I can actually just 82 00:10:19,129 --> 00:10:15,470 open this up here not in Photoshop but 83 00:10:22,309 --> 00:10:19,139 actually in preview so I can show 84 00:10:24,859 --> 00:10:22,319 everyone there now obviously as you do 85 00:10:30,030 --> 00:10:24,869 know this show while I'm opening this up 86 00:10:36,270 --> 00:10:34,140 the a we don't do this show with 87 00:10:38,100 --> 00:10:36,280 sponsors we do this show pretty well in 88 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:38,110 our free time it's a passion project 89 00:10:42,660 --> 00:10:39,930 we're trying to give the highest quality 90 00:10:44,580 --> 00:10:42,670 humanly imaginable and I just had one of 91 00:10:48,180 --> 00:10:44,590 my curtains fall down son of a gun 92 00:10:50,910 --> 00:10:48,190 see this is what happens when you are an 93 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:50,920 independent broadcaster you got to do 94 00:10:54,210 --> 00:10:52,330 the best you can with what you have and 95 00:10:56,220 --> 00:10:54,220 you know we have a very loyal fan base 96 00:10:59,190 --> 00:10:56,230 who supports us every single month on 97 00:11:03,440 --> 00:10:59,200 patreon.com ford slash den of lore tons 98 00:11:07,230 --> 00:11:03,450 of perks that you get in addition to 99 00:11:08,730 --> 00:11:07,240 well in addition to the knowledge II do 100 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:08,740 you actually do get the lineups before 101 00:11:12,450 --> 00:11:10,810 everyone else you also do get some 102 00:11:14,910 --> 00:11:12,460 depending on if you're a part of our 103 00:11:19,010 --> 00:11:14,920 master's program you do get one extra 104 00:11:21,870 --> 00:11:19,020 free show alive and interactive with a 105 00:11:26,250 --> 00:11:21,880 special guest last month we had Alana 106 00:11:27,420 --> 00:11:26,260 Galbraith of the well it was the 107 00:11:29,970 --> 00:11:27,430 brothers and sisters of light and we 108 00:11:32,550 --> 00:11:29,980 talked about self initiation and she is 109 00:11:36,390 --> 00:11:32,560 an initiative aster we talked for a good 110 00:11:38,850 --> 00:11:36,400 three hours with Danny Kerr and Wayne 111 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:38,860 and it got really really deep in there 112 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:42,370 so I wanted to give a very very special 113 00:11:47,700 --> 00:11:45,490 thank you to our patrons who support us 114 00:11:48,810 --> 00:11:47,710 and keep us on the air by helping to pay 115 00:11:53,310 --> 00:11:48,820 the bills we're trying to keep this 116 00:11:55,380 --> 00:11:53,320 place as you can see running the best we 117 00:11:59,370 --> 00:11:55,390 can we've had a lot of humidity and rain 118 00:12:02,340 --> 00:11:59,380 here in Ottawa and apparently apparently 119 00:12:05,070 --> 00:12:02,350 the well apparently the hook fell down 120 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:05,080 due to the glue giving out so help us 121 00:12:09,180 --> 00:12:07,090 buy screws and nails so that we can 122 00:12:11,190 --> 00:12:09,190 actually build a new studio dental or 123 00:12:14,460 --> 00:12:11,200 2.0 so that we can bring you the very 124 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:14,470 best and have room for an actual third 125 00:12:19,530 --> 00:12:16,690 person in here when we actually can get 126 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:19,540 three people in here so that our show 127 00:12:23,850 --> 00:12:21,010 can actually be produced and I can do 128 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:23,860 things like actually host the show a 129 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:27,370 special thanks goes out to roses Kevin 130 00:12:31,050 --> 00:12:28,930 thought the Wayne 131 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:31,060 Joshua ematic who is the winner of our 132 00:12:36,450 --> 00:12:34,210 June patreon contest and Ellen mccurdy 133 00:12:37,830 --> 00:12:36,460 now those five individuals are part of 134 00:12:40,770 --> 00:12:37,840 our master's program they pledged nine 135 00:12:43,630 --> 00:12:40,780 dollars a month and they do get one 136 00:12:46,210 --> 00:12:43,640 extra interactive show per month 137 00:12:47,590 --> 00:12:46,220 lecture-style again if there's any 138 00:12:49,510 --> 00:12:47,600 questions that I asked they would ask 139 00:12:52,330 --> 00:12:49,520 and they're with me every single step of 140 00:12:54,460 --> 00:12:52,340 the way and we have some crazy guests 141 00:12:56,950 --> 00:12:54,470 that we are planning for this month and 142 00:13:03,900 --> 00:12:56,960 for next so if you want 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benefits as our patrons for 157 00:13:48,790 --> 00:13:46,160 that month if you do if you do 158 00:13:50,380 --> 00:13:48,800 contribute and you know what the cool 159 00:13:52,660 --> 00:13:50,390 part is is you can actually set up a 160 00:13:55,540 --> 00:13:52,670 one-time payment or monthly through that 161 00:13:57,430 --> 00:13:55,550 through that as well and again special 162 00:13:59,830 --> 00:13:57,440 thanks goes to Dana Kerr who has support 163 00:14:02,050 --> 00:13:59,840 us through our support page on dental 164 00:14:05,350 --> 00:14:02,060 for calm for it slash support as well as 165 00:14:07,890 --> 00:14:05,360 Ronnie Schultz you are guys are awesome 166 00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:07,900 and I cannot do this show without you 167 00:14:15,820 --> 00:14:13,910 now to be able to move things on as I'd 168 00:14:19,210 --> 00:14:15,830 mentioned we are going to be running a 169 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:19,220 very very special program very soon and 170 00:14:25,060 --> 00:14:22,490 I'm just gonna bring where is where oh 171 00:14:28,260 --> 00:14:25,070 where has my graphic gone oh where oh 172 00:14:31,710 --> 00:14:29,730 now the most important thing is that if 173 00:14:33,990 --> 00:14:31,720 you support the show eventually I can 174 00:14:36,269 --> 00:14:34,000 actually afford to have somebody in here 175 00:14:39,690 --> 00:14:36,279 to help me out because I host I do the 176 00:14:41,639 --> 00:14:39,700 live broadcast production in addition to 177 00:14:44,310 --> 00:14:41,649 all the planning all of the graphics 178 00:14:46,260 --> 00:14:44,320 everything you see I do in my spare time 179 00:14:48,269 --> 00:14:46,270 which can sometimes run until 3 o'clock 180 00:14:48,829 --> 00:14:48,279 in the morning on a weekly basis six 181 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:48,839 times a week 182 00:14:56,610 --> 00:14:54,610 so and especially with this event coming 183 00:14:58,440 --> 00:14:56,620 up and I think I finally have its full 184 00:14:59,250 --> 00:14:58,450 screen right monitor thank you there we 185 00:15:01,860 --> 00:14:59,260 go 186 00:15:03,750 --> 00:15:01,870 that is the graphic for the John Anthony 187 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:03,760 West symposium which we're just calling 188 00:15:08,910 --> 00:15:05,529 the jaws symposium which is happening 189 00:15:13,470 --> 00:15:08,920 July 22nd starting at 10:00 a.m. Eastern 190 00:15:16,650 --> 00:15:13,480 Standard 9:00 a.m. central 8:00 a.m. 191 00:15:18,990 --> 00:15:16,660 mountain and 7:00 a.m. Pacific and this 192 00:15:20,940 --> 00:15:19,000 is gonna run right through the day to 193 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:20,950 make sure that you can at least get on 194 00:15:27,449 --> 00:15:25,330 there for dinner afterwards we're using 195 00:15:30,570 --> 00:15:27,459 the hash tags bring John home as you 196 00:15:32,220 --> 00:15:30,580 know that he is currently well his 197 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:32,230 cancer is under control and he is still 198 00:15:36,180 --> 00:15:34,570 getting over pneumonia and to make sure 199 00:15:38,130 --> 00:15:36,190 that we can get him back home from 200 00:15:42,180 --> 00:15:38,140 Houston to the Catskills it does require 201 00:15:43,829 --> 00:15:42,190 medically supervised trip and if you are 202 00:15:48,769 --> 00:15:43,839 an American listener you do know that 203 00:15:51,569 --> 00:15:48,779 that is not inexpensive by any means but 204 00:15:53,370 --> 00:15:51,579 you know what for the man himself we got 205 00:15:54,930 --> 00:15:53,380 to make sure we can we can get them home 206 00:15:58,290 --> 00:15:54,940 so that he can get better and be with 207 00:16:01,139 --> 00:15:58,300 his family and enjoy that mountainous 208 00:16:03,750 --> 00:16:01,149 lovely home out there in New York State 209 00:16:06,630 --> 00:16:03,760 on this particular show Robert Bauval 210 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:06,640 will be joining us to open the show 211 00:16:10,199 --> 00:16:07,810 we're gonna be having an Edward 212 00:16:12,510 --> 00:16:10,209 nightingale layer of Scranton Randall 213 00:16:13,139 --> 00:16:12,520 Carlson of sacred geometry international 214 00:16:16,170 --> 00:16:13,149 himself 215 00:16:19,650 --> 00:16:16,180 Gary 8 David will be presenting a 216 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:19,660 lecture with Edward as well as Randall 217 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:21,970 and there is more to come 218 00:16:27,150 --> 00:16:24,010 special appearances by Graham Hancock 219 00:16:30,410 --> 00:16:27,160 and a few other very special guests this 220 00:16:33,510 --> 00:16:30,420 is going to be huger than our event in 221 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:33,520 February which was episode 22 and that 222 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:35,770 ran eight hours and had shock it had 223 00:16:41,820 --> 00:16:38,890 Hancock it had Carlsen Edward Laird this 224 00:16:45,150 --> 00:16:41,830 is going to be different it is a lecture 225 00:16:47,490 --> 00:16:45,160 this is a symposium and the cool part is 226 00:16:50,670 --> 00:16:47,500 is that it's all going to be free to 227 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:50,680 watch and we will have a VIP donors 228 00:16:55,590 --> 00:16:53,530 interactive section so that if you want 229 00:16:58,230 --> 00:16:55,600 to chat with the guests that are waiting 230 00:16:59,610 --> 00:16:58,240 on deck and maybe possibly chat with 231 00:17:01,770 --> 00:16:59,620 them afterwards you will have that 232 00:17:05,550 --> 00:17:01,780 opportunity to be able to do so the 233 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:05,560 spots for that will be limited please do 234 00:17:09,750 --> 00:17:07,930 follow sacred geometry International 235 00:17:11,670 --> 00:17:09,760 Twitter as well as their Facebook group 236 00:17:11,970 --> 00:17:11,680 all of the information will be posted 237 00:17:16,590 --> 00:17:11,980 there 238 00:17:18,740 --> 00:17:16,600 very soon and it this is going to be an 239 00:17:24,030 --> 00:17:18,750 absolute night to remember 240 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:24,040 huge huge night so please do do mark 241 00:17:29,850 --> 00:17:26,770 July 22nd on your calendar and do mark 242 00:17:32,850 --> 00:17:29,860 those times and I do also know that 243 00:17:35,220 --> 00:17:32,860 Aaron cheek who is part of magical Egypt 244 00:17:37,020 --> 00:17:35,230 is going to be presenting he's one of 245 00:17:41,010 --> 00:17:37,030 our guests he'll he will be one of our 246 00:17:43,650 --> 00:17:41,020 first guests for the night and he will 247 00:17:47,490 --> 00:17:43,660 be presenting an entire piece on schwa 248 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:47,500 Lord lubitz so if you are a temple of 249 00:17:53,810 --> 00:17:50,050 man fan please do join us 250 00:17:58,050 --> 00:17:53,820 the man is literally has a PhD in 251 00:18:00,930 --> 00:17:58,060 Charlotte Lu bits so a man and we're 252 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:00,940 still waiting for guests to confirm III 253 00:18:03,780 --> 00:18:02,170 can't believe the outpouring of support 254 00:18:05,730 --> 00:18:03,790 that we've been getting for this again 255 00:18:07,530 --> 00:18:05,740 this has been something that that 256 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:07,540 Cameron asked him from sacred geometry 257 00:18:11,430 --> 00:18:09,850 international Jimmy Church from fate 258 00:18:12,390 --> 00:18:11,440 black and myself have been working 259 00:18:18,300 --> 00:18:12,400 tirelessly 260 00:18:20,580 --> 00:18:18,310 weeks and for all of the guests that are 261 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:20,590 joining in again thank you very much for 262 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:22,810 your support of the show as well as 263 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:25,090 support of John Anthony West and his 264 00:18:30,210 --> 00:18:28,090 family John if you're listening or Zeke 265 00:18:32,820 --> 00:18:30,220 if you are listening or Zoey if you're 266 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:32,830 listening or even or clay if you are you 267 00:18:37,970 --> 00:18:36,010 know finally can put your mouse or phone 268 00:18:40,500 --> 00:18:37,980 down from all the work that you're doing 269 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:40,510 again let's make this a night to 270 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:44,050 remember and I can't wait now the next 271 00:18:48,650 --> 00:18:45,730 important thing that I wanted to be able 272 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:48,660 to mention and again thank you very much 273 00:18:55,550 --> 00:18:52,650 for joining me on the program which is 274 00:18:57,890 --> 00:18:55,560 none other than Jim Mallard of the 275 00:19:00,800 --> 00:18:57,900 mallard reports Jim are you still there 276 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:00,810 I am still here I even remember to meet 277 00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:02,250 my unmute my mic before I started 278 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:03,600 talking that's always good trying to do 279 00:19:07,970 --> 00:19:05,370 okay fantastic and you know what I 280 00:19:10,100 --> 00:19:07,980 actually completely again once again 281 00:19:12,290 --> 00:19:10,110 we've been doing audio broadcasts for 282 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:12,300 quite some time for the last couple of 283 00:19:15,740 --> 00:19:13,770 weeks and I think this is the the first 284 00:19:20,510 --> 00:19:15,750 the second time that I forgot to 285 00:19:24,170 --> 00:19:20,520 actually start the mix ler sort of this 286 00:19:27,260 --> 00:19:24,180 and I'm like ah like first the webcam 287 00:19:28,940 --> 00:19:27,270 you know it's oh man it's just it's one 288 00:19:31,730 --> 00:19:28,950 thing after another and you know what if 289 00:19:34,570 --> 00:19:31,740 I love this show and I love the people 290 00:19:37,070 --> 00:19:34,580 who listen to it and I I would not I 291 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:37,080 would not give the chaos of Thursday 292 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:39,930 nights up for anything anything because 293 00:19:48,020 --> 00:19:44,610 it is so enjoyable not always if I can 294 00:19:50,420 --> 00:19:48,030 get your oh no you are not actually on 295 00:19:54,500 --> 00:19:50,430 there no I'm not video anymore because 296 00:19:56,750 --> 00:19:54,510 it's my Wi-Fi is scattered right now or 297 00:19:58,610 --> 00:19:56,760 we had a severe storm roll for this 298 00:20:01,370 --> 00:19:58,620 morning and I get have internet or they 299 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:01,380 I have cable for four hours and now it's 300 00:20:05,510 --> 00:20:03,450 kind of waffling again so I'm sure 301 00:20:07,490 --> 00:20:05,520 they're out working on things still so 302 00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:07,500 I'm glad I have a connection that's all 303 00:20:10,580 --> 00:20:09,510 solid enough but not solid enough for 304 00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:10,590 all the fun stuff that goes with all 305 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:16,110 this so well again I'd like to 306 00:20:20,770 --> 00:20:17,610 personally apologize to everyone who 307 00:20:22,730 --> 00:20:20,780 came in and who was coming in expecting 308 00:20:24,940 --> 00:20:22,740 Steve ambassador I've been trying to get 309 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:24,950 a hold of him for like the last hour and 310 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:29,450 I know that's a very professional man so 311 00:20:34,820 --> 00:20:32,850 it's it's either plain and simple like 312 00:20:36,770 --> 00:20:34,830 you know I think that the man finally 313 00:20:42,950 --> 00:20:36,780 got him I think his disclosure movement 314 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:42,960 may have put this one today now I'm sure 315 00:20:50,450 --> 00:20:47,970 and literally possibly Steve if you're 316 00:20:54,170 --> 00:20:50,460 you're listening we're still on air you 317 00:20:56,990 --> 00:20:54,180 can contact us and again for all those 318 00:20:58,520 --> 00:20:57,000 there now you can also write this down 319 00:21:01,920 --> 00:20:58,530 because I will be taking calls very very 320 00:21:06,610 --> 00:21:05,530 and you don't I actually have some other 321 00:21:07,660 --> 00:21:06,620 people who are actually interesting 322 00:21:12,370 --> 00:21:07,670 coming on the show right now I'm getting 323 00:21:15,340 --> 00:21:12,380 messages non-stop so again like add den 324 00:21:18,970 --> 00:21:15,350 of Lord calm or just den of lore to 325 00:21:23,380 --> 00:21:18,980 Skype or again write down this number 326 00:21:28,210 --> 00:21:23,390 right here 1 3 4 7 7 8 9 7 9 7 7 it's in 327 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:28,220 the top of the bar right here and you 328 00:21:33,250 --> 00:21:29,690 will be able to interact with us as well 329 00:21:34,630 --> 00:21:33,260 as just to talk about UFOs and aliens 330 00:21:37,510 --> 00:21:34,640 because you know what [\h__\h] this 331 00:21:39,130 --> 00:21:37,520 is aliens month and it is a month that 332 00:21:43,210 --> 00:21:39,140 I've been waiting for for quite some 333 00:21:45,070 --> 00:21:43,220 time so I know that our last show that 334 00:21:47,710 --> 00:21:45,080 we had with Michael Huntington that one 335 00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:47,720 in about four and a half hours and we 336 00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:49,760 went all over the place with regards to 337 00:21:54,700 --> 00:21:52,130 aliens UFOs whether they're real the 338 00:21:58,690 --> 00:21:54,710 scientific approach and we brought it 339 00:21:59,080 --> 00:21:58,700 into a very human aspect of the whole 340 00:22:00,790 --> 00:21:59,090 thing 341 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:00,800 it was a very very philosophical show 342 00:22:12,730 --> 00:22:03,730 and in terms we even talked about the 343 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:12,740 ethics of UFO tainment and I know I know 344 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:14,810 for the valid report you guys have much 345 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:18,530 more varied subject matter than we do 346 00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:21,250 you guys do have a lot of paranormal 347 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:24,080 what do you think about that aspect of 348 00:22:29,350 --> 00:22:27,770 ufology you know truthfully I haven't 349 00:22:30,790 --> 00:22:29,360 really broached the subject much and 350 00:22:33,310 --> 00:22:30,800 that that's as you were mentioning and 351 00:22:34,990 --> 00:22:33,320 it's kind of I guess I've have heard it 352 00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:35,000 before if I never really put too much 353 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:37,520 into it because I guess it seems like 354 00:22:41,170 --> 00:22:38,570 we're putting the heart the cart before 355 00:22:42,730 --> 00:22:41,180 the horse because there should be making 356 00:22:47,410 --> 00:22:42,740 you know we have to have a demand before 357 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:47,420 we worry about paying it so now III know 358 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:49,610 that the big thing that's been going on 359 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:51,770 we talked about this at length and I'll 360 00:23:00,720 --> 00:22:54,650 bring it up again which is which is 361 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:00,730 gyeom and the the the nazca mummy so I 362 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:03,050 know that there are a lot of people on 363 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:05,330 the fence there are a lot of people who 364 00:23:12,180 --> 00:23:06,530 are saying it's the street tell me it 365 00:23:14,470 --> 00:23:12,190 count me as it that I'm in the mind that 366 00:23:18,669 --> 00:23:14,480 I'm not there I haven't actually seen 367 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:18,679 I have not been able to examine it 368 00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:21,290 myself my experts that are located here 369 00:23:26,380 --> 00:23:23,600 in Otto a very very you know top top top 370 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:26,390 top doctors and forensics here that I 371 00:23:31,930 --> 00:23:28,130 that I work with personally on certain 372 00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:31,940 projects that would be able to tell me 373 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:33,049 if it's real and unfortunately they're 374 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:34,610 here working on very important things 375 00:23:42,190 --> 00:23:38,330 and not taking a look at this mummy I've 376 00:23:43,659 --> 00:23:42,200 seen Mike Berra who has basically flat 377 00:23:45,220 --> 00:23:43,669 out and he's coming on next week and I'm 378 00:23:47,230 --> 00:23:45,230 gonna talk to Mike right after the show 379 00:23:49,169 --> 00:23:47,240 to make sure that he's coming on this 380 00:23:51,610 --> 00:23:49,179 week because I have never had a guest 381 00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:51,620 canceled on me or just not not show up 382 00:23:55,659 --> 00:23:53,809 it's never you know you've been do I 383 00:23:57,159 --> 00:23:55,669 guess I should say this there's when 384 00:23:59,710 --> 00:23:57,169 you've been doing it as long as I have 385 00:24:01,450 --> 00:23:59,720 you've seen everything from getting the 386 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:01,460 wrong number from somebody to just not 387 00:24:06,220 --> 00:24:03,650 showing up to a whole mess of things so 388 00:24:07,780 --> 00:24:06,230 it happens as I'm sure it could be this 389 00:24:09,930 --> 00:24:07,790 is something as simple as he's been 390 00:24:13,419 --> 00:24:09,940 thinking it's Wednesday all day too so I 391 00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:13,429 know well it's a possibility again he 392 00:24:17,620 --> 00:24:15,710 travels around so much but you know with 393 00:24:19,090 --> 00:24:17,630 this cell phone this is why you always 394 00:24:22,210 --> 00:24:19,100 have to sometimes confirm I should start 395 00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:22,220 sending out reminders to certain 396 00:24:25,900 --> 00:24:24,320 individuals whenever they come on the 397 00:24:28,810 --> 00:24:25,910 show it's okay you're on the state let's 398 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:28,820 confirm a week beforehand or even just 399 00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:30,290 to give them a calendar update that says 400 00:24:34,299 --> 00:24:32,240 I'm gonna remind you every half an hour 401 00:24:37,630 --> 00:24:34,309 the day of until you actually pick up 402 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:37,640 the phone and come on the show and he 403 00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:41,330 was our first guest and you know it's 404 00:24:47,799 --> 00:24:45,260 like the equate it to the idea of you 405 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:47,809 kind of like a you naughty UFO hoax but 406 00:24:51,250 --> 00:24:49,730 kind of UFO hoax it's like you've got 407 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:51,260 this really big expectation I'm like 408 00:24:55,090 --> 00:24:52,970 yeah like Steve's gonna come back on 409 00:24:57,039 --> 00:24:55,100 we're gonna talk disclosure and maybe 410 00:24:58,360 --> 00:24:57,049 he's been listening to the show or maybe 411 00:24:59,710 --> 00:24:58,370 somebody talked to him and said no that 412 00:25:01,360 --> 00:24:59,720 Chris uber guy he's too rational 413 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:01,370 thinking and I'm like I've been 414 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:03,770 listening to his recent interviews I'm 415 00:25:07,659 --> 00:25:05,570 like no he doesn't take [\h__\h] like I do 416 00:25:10,810 --> 00:25:07,669 this is like he's on our line a key so 417 00:25:14,049 --> 00:25:10,820 rationalists he believes but he's you 418 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:14,059 know he's more the you know he's more of 419 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:17,510 the actual like you believe it so let's 420 00:25:20,110 --> 00:25:18,770 get the government talking about here's 421 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:20,120 all this evidence but I haven't seen it 422 00:25:24,159 --> 00:25:22,490 a UFO myself but I still believe type of 423 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:24,169 thing and he's been doing it for 15 you 424 00:25:27,890 --> 00:25:26,370 know 15 20 years almost 425 00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:27,900 and it's like you still have these 426 00:25:33,860 --> 00:25:31,110 people who believe that the you know 427 00:25:36,649 --> 00:25:33,870 believe that the raw not the Roswell 428 00:25:39,380 --> 00:25:36,659 crash but the the Roswell alt autopsy 429 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:39,390 was actually real and you know there's a 430 00:25:43,370 --> 00:25:41,130 tons of inconsistencies with regards to 431 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:43,380 the equipment that's being used or the 432 00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:52,399 I'm just communicating with some 433 00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:54,480 individuals whom I'm and trying to bring 434 00:25:58,399 --> 00:25:56,370 in here for this discussion some very 435 00:26:01,279 --> 00:25:58,409 very interesting replacements that are 436 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:01,289 coming on possibly and I think it would 437 00:26:05,450 --> 00:26:02,970 be amazing if they're actually still up 438 00:26:07,730 --> 00:26:05,460 in there in California so well they 439 00:26:12,409 --> 00:26:07,740 should be five minutes earlier there 440 00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:12,419 than it is here now one thing I'm gonna 441 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:13,919 do is I I could see that Denver is 442 00:26:18,649 --> 00:26:15,570 currently in chat and I know that Denver 443 00:26:20,299 --> 00:26:18,659 is going to be on with us for the 444 00:26:21,980 --> 00:26:20,309 sandwich counter the sandwich 445 00:26:24,919 --> 00:26:21,990 yeah sandwich counter which is our new 446 00:26:26,419 --> 00:26:24,929 closing segment and I'm going to get his 447 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:26,429 take because he like he could with 448 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:29,370 cryptozoology he covers UFOs he's been 449 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:30,690 following this whole little guy a thing 450 00:26:35,690 --> 00:26:33,809 properly and our main thing is he has a 451 00:26:38,269 --> 00:26:35,700 fantastic Southern drawl I have a 452 00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:38,279 Canadian accent we both like talking 453 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:40,370 about strange [\h__\h] and getting drunk so 454 00:26:45,260 --> 00:26:42,450 let's see if he's let me see if he's 455 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:45,270 available it's probably not okay to look 456 00:26:47,299 --> 00:26:46,770 at me and go oh [\h__\h] I have to get near 457 00:26:48,769 --> 00:26:47,309 my phone 458 00:26:50,210 --> 00:26:48,779 don't worry Denver if you're listening 459 00:26:55,269 --> 00:26:50,220 to this I'm gonna just add you through 460 00:26:58,220 --> 00:26:55,279 voice not video for now so that I can 461 00:26:59,720 --> 00:26:58,230 continue to point out that you know your 462 00:27:01,519 --> 00:26:59,730 support of the show is appreciated so we 463 00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:01,529 can actually for proper hardware that 464 00:27:10,639 --> 00:27:05,760 attach our accoutrements to our walls as 465 00:27:16,910 --> 00:27:10,649 it were let me see here so many names on 466 00:27:25,190 --> 00:27:22,110 there you are sir now the cool part is 467 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:25,200 is I actually do have the skype open on 468 00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:27,490 my iPad as well I don't think I've got 469 00:27:46,340 --> 00:27:42,640 the connector plugged in so just now if 470 00:27:48,390 --> 00:27:46,350 anybody does call we can have contact 471 00:27:50,430 --> 00:27:48,400 you know now that we have some people up 472 00:27:54,980 --> 00:27:50,440 here I'm actually just gonna go I'm 473 00:27:58,050 --> 00:27:54,990 gonna get that off the those two off and 474 00:27:59,910 --> 00:27:58,060 that one on there we go gentlemen 475 00:28:04,290 --> 00:27:59,920 welcome to the program Denver how are 476 00:28:10,350 --> 00:28:04,300 you doing no good man how's it going I'm 477 00:28:11,970 --> 00:28:10,360 having a hell of a week brother I've 478 00:28:15,090 --> 00:28:11,980 been watching this entire thing that's 479 00:28:16,830 --> 00:28:15,100 been going down at least in in the 480 00:28:20,130 --> 00:28:16,840 States we in Canada we have somewhat of 481 00:28:22,020 --> 00:28:20,140 an interesting UFO community I know that 482 00:28:25,980 --> 00:28:22,030 there are a few UFO and paranormal 483 00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:25,990 podcasts Comerica being one and they're 484 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:28,150 more of the paranormal at this point you 485 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:30,010 know out-of-body experience Strub two 486 00:28:32,970 --> 00:28:31,810 crystals together and shove them up your 487 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:32,980 butt and hopefully open up the 488 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:34,210 dimensional portal to the fifth 489 00:28:39,450 --> 00:28:37,690 dimension type of thing which is all 490 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:39,460 fine and good [\h__\h] I love that stuff 491 00:28:44,810 --> 00:28:42,130 it's awesome and big sexy that was a 492 00:28:46,860 --> 00:28:44,820 shadow to you he's been working lately 493 00:28:48,330 --> 00:28:46,870 but yeah this is this whole Gaia thing 494 00:28:50,340 --> 00:28:48,340 it's been splitting the entire community 495 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:50,350 down like down the middle and my whole 496 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:52,210 thing is I just love this [\h__\h] Denver 497 00:28:59,580 --> 00:28:56,130 what is what is your what is your take 498 00:29:03,510 --> 00:28:59,590 yes I mean as soon as I saw that Mommy I 499 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:03,520 knew it was just complete total [\h__\h] 500 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:05,890 I mean you can just look at it until 501 00:29:11,460 --> 00:29:07,810 it's [\h__\h] if it's too good to be 502 00:29:15,660 --> 00:29:11,470 true it's not true and you know guy uh 503 00:29:18,750 --> 00:29:15,670 you know they they have some you know 504 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:18,760 pretty cool people affiliated with them 505 00:29:24,570 --> 00:29:22,090 that I respect and stuff but I mean this 506 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:24,580 mommies just just too much you know as 507 00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:26,650 far as I'm concerned now you know 508 00:29:30,659 --> 00:29:29,200 whether they I'm not saying that they 509 00:29:33,090 --> 00:29:30,669 hoaxed it 510 00:29:35,099 --> 00:29:33,100 but I mean I think that they knew it was 511 00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:35,109 [\h__\h] when they put it out there but 512 00:29:39,509 --> 00:29:37,840 I mean the the damn videos have like 20 513 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:39,519 million clicks so it's just you know 514 00:29:44,549 --> 00:29:43,090 just pure advertising for them so that's 515 00:29:46,590 --> 00:29:44,559 kind of my take they knew it was 516 00:29:50,489 --> 00:29:46,600 [\h__\h] but they rode the publicity 517 00:29:52,590 --> 00:29:50,499 wave and the idea that that with Moyes 518 00:29:54,479 --> 00:29:52,600 on was the one that brought it to them 519 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:54,489 and I'm like anything that he's been 520 00:30:00,180 --> 00:29:56,730 involved in has fallen right to [\h__\h] 521 00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:00,190 yeah I mean yeah you know I mean just 522 00:30:04,919 --> 00:30:02,559 you know just you know that I mean the 523 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:04,929 whole thing just just looks it just 524 00:30:08,999 --> 00:30:06,850 looks phony like you know just like 525 00:30:11,580 --> 00:30:09,009 something you know that you'd see you 526 00:30:13,739 --> 00:30:11,590 know I don't know like like some kind of 527 00:30:16,049 --> 00:30:13,749 damn stage prop or something you know 528 00:30:19,019 --> 00:30:16,059 and and it's there at Nazca 529 00:30:20,879 --> 00:30:19,029 you got shaky people affiliated with it 530 00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:20,889 and bringing it to them but you know 531 00:30:25,529 --> 00:30:23,289 it's like yeah I kind of lost a lot of 532 00:30:26,909 --> 00:30:25,539 respect for a guy I beat nah yeah I 533 00:30:28,710 --> 00:30:26,919 didn't know a whole lot about them but 534 00:30:31,470 --> 00:30:28,720 there's a lot of people that I respect 535 00:30:33,389 --> 00:30:31,480 you know that you know that's affiliated 536 00:30:35,940 --> 00:30:33,399 with them it but I have kind of lost 537 00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:35,950 lost a lot with this you know it's you 538 00:30:41,159 --> 00:30:37,809 know you want to just use complete 539 00:30:43,139 --> 00:30:41,169 [\h__\h] - just get clicks I I just I 540 00:30:45,899 --> 00:30:43,149 don't like it well that's the name of 541 00:30:48,269 --> 00:30:45,909 the game and that's kind of why you know 542 00:30:49,649 --> 00:30:48,279 as a Cosmo dub is saying in chat it's 543 00:30:51,299 --> 00:30:49,659 kind of like the boy who cried wolf it's 544 00:30:53,849 --> 00:30:51,309 like how many times dude does the 545 00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:53,859 community how long are they gonna take 546 00:30:58,349 --> 00:30:55,600 hoaxes and over and over and over again 547 00:31:00,539 --> 00:30:58,359 hoping that that was the analogy running 548 00:31:02,669 --> 00:31:00,549 from my head and I said I think I'm I am 549 00:31:06,210 --> 00:31:02,679 the but by saying in my head I think we 550 00:31:08,129 --> 00:31:06,220 all want to see him get eight thanks 551 00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:08,139 where we're at I think that's why some 552 00:31:10,830 --> 00:31:09,609 of us are still on the fence just hoping 553 00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:10,840 long enough for him just to hang and 554 00:31:14,849 --> 00:31:11,679 hang himself 555 00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:14,859 well that's also one of the the big 556 00:31:19,289 --> 00:31:17,919 issues is like if the entire movements 557 00:31:21,690 --> 00:31:19,299 being discredited to a certain extent 558 00:31:23,930 --> 00:31:21,700 because we have been accept accepting it 559 00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:23,940 and you know for in that regards I would 560 00:31:27,450 --> 00:31:25,809 understand where Michael Huntington and 561 00:31:28,979 --> 00:31:27,460 more of the rationalist movement is 562 00:31:32,220 --> 00:31:28,989 coming from because I know a lot of 563 00:31:34,169 --> 00:31:32,230 people who are who are my age and you 564 00:31:36,479 --> 00:31:34,179 know you know I'm not actually sure how 565 00:31:37,499 --> 00:31:36,489 how old you are Jim and Denver well 566 00:31:40,019 --> 00:31:37,509 we're not going to date you because 567 00:31:41,850 --> 00:31:40,029 you're just too awesome so well I help 568 00:31:50,690 --> 00:31:41,860 the chisels doughnut 569 00:31:55,890 --> 00:31:52,590 via the idea of the rationalists 570 00:31:58,410 --> 00:31:55,900 movement is a big thing and that's one 571 00:32:00,090 --> 00:31:58,420 of the one of the reasons why I did 572 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:00,100 aliens month was because it's like okay 573 00:32:04,020 --> 00:32:02,170 well this whole thing blew up and I 574 00:32:05,910 --> 00:32:04,030 already had a couple I think I had 575 00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:05,920 Michael already confirmed and I'm like 576 00:32:10,650 --> 00:32:07,809 [\h__\h] it we're just gonna do a full you 577 00:32:13,169 --> 00:32:10,660 know aliens month and you know even with 578 00:32:15,090 --> 00:32:13,179 the the rationalist movement starting 579 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:15,100 with Michael and we're gonna have Steven 580 00:32:18,330 --> 00:32:16,690 on here to actually talk about more the 581 00:32:22,620 --> 00:32:18,340 conspiracy side which you guys know I 582 00:32:24,299 --> 00:32:22,630 [\h__\h] dig and the idea of more than 583 00:32:26,190 --> 00:32:24,309 phantom or the fantastical where you 584 00:32:29,909 --> 00:32:26,200 have to have an open mind again the the 585 00:32:31,919 --> 00:32:29,919 aliens on the Moon and Mars with with an 586 00:32:36,450 --> 00:32:31,929 ancient aliens with with Mike Berra and 587 00:32:40,140 --> 00:32:36,460 and homeland who's a who's a bloody 588 00:32:41,580 --> 00:32:40,150 legend for crying out loud one of the 589 00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:41,590 people that I said it's like when I do 590 00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:43,270 this show I gotta interview homeland 591 00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:46,200 like no I don't care if he goes into 592 00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:48,640 data mode and start showing actual 593 00:32:54,150 --> 00:32:52,000 pictures of you know some some aliens 594 00:32:57,900 --> 00:32:54,160 you know pulling his pants down and give 595 00:32:59,610 --> 00:32:57,910 me the the the the Mars one I or it's 596 00:33:02,549 --> 00:32:59,620 just like some rocks I don't you know 597 00:33:04,919 --> 00:33:02,559 I'm good or or if he's gonna go complete 598 00:33:07,020 --> 00:33:04,929 into the fantastical and and start 599 00:33:09,510 --> 00:33:07,030 showing domes on the moon which I I 600 00:33:14,010 --> 00:33:09,520 don't again my eyes aren't the best so 601 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:14,020 it could be or couldn't be but these are 602 00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:15,490 things that are still possibility 603 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:17,200 because we haven't necessarily been to 604 00:33:24,780 --> 00:33:20,250 those particular those particular places 605 00:33:29,580 --> 00:33:24,790 but if we're talking UFOs and aliens and 606 00:33:33,510 --> 00:33:29,590 we start delving into one side that has 607 00:33:35,490 --> 00:33:33,520 a very particular I'm going to say a 608 00:33:41,740 --> 00:33:35,500 predisposition for certain individuals 609 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:43,880 I'm trying out to be to because you know 610 00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:47,370 you know I went off on unlike a dark 611 00:33:51,830 --> 00:33:49,230 journalist last week and even like into 612 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:51,840 the The Hangover which I actually take 613 00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:53,250 down just because I'm like this is too 614 00:33:56,299 --> 00:33:54,720 brutal I know it was way too hungover 615 00:33:57,860 --> 00:33:56,309 like it was I was way too hungover for 616 00:34:01,040 --> 00:33:57,870 that show and I got like 40 views in the 617 00:34:04,820 --> 00:34:01,050 first hour Mike [\h__\h] a hardened paint 618 00:34:09,409 --> 00:34:04,830 man yeah but the idea is if you drove 619 00:34:11,450 --> 00:34:09,419 art into pain oh god I'm I was told by 620 00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:11,460 my wife who is a very very patient and 621 00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:14,159 lovely woman and Meg if you ever listen 622 00:34:16,730 --> 00:34:15,510 to this show and she's only listened to 623 00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:16,740 it once and that was the last time I 624 00:34:23,149 --> 00:34:18,510 came to bed at like 2:00 3:00 in the 625 00:34:25,070 --> 00:34:23,159 morning after a very long night and she 626 00:34:26,419 --> 00:34:25,080 actually yeah her whole thing was like I 627 00:34:27,649 --> 00:34:26,429 see where you're coming from with this 628 00:34:28,790 --> 00:34:27,659 but you know what the whole paranormal 629 00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:28,800 in your angle and you guys have built 630 00:34:32,270 --> 00:34:30,510 this great show up and the whole idea is 631 00:34:33,830 --> 00:34:32,280 well we're not going and I'll talk about 632 00:34:35,899 --> 00:34:33,840 the fantastical and we'll keep an open 633 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:35,909 mind because anything is possible but 634 00:34:41,930 --> 00:34:37,770 there's a certain amount of skepticism 635 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:41,940 that has to be involved for making 636 00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:45,570 rational decisions or being able to take 637 00:34:48,260 --> 00:34:46,800 in certain amounts of information not 638 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:48,270 everything can't be true and everything 639 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:51,810 can't be false there has to be some true 640 00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:53,850 some false and the idea is how is it we 641 00:35:01,300 --> 00:34:57,359 discover what is true how do we just how 642 00:35:06,070 --> 00:35:04,210 and like that that's that's why I'm 643 00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:06,080 trying to balance or at least the intent 644 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:08,270 was to balance the more rational with 645 00:35:13,390 --> 00:35:11,210 the more open-minded subject matter but 646 00:35:15,370 --> 00:35:13,400 you know Denver yourself you you're 647 00:35:17,830 --> 00:35:15,380 you're a cryptozoologist and probably 648 00:35:20,530 --> 00:35:17,840 the most skeptical of cryptozoologists 649 00:35:23,850 --> 00:35:20,540 yourself and how do you take the whole 650 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:23,860 alien thing as a you know as a standard 651 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:26,090 I'm gonna say the line of belief or a 652 00:35:35,290 --> 00:35:28,370 line of faith or even just a field of 653 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:35,300 study you know I I pretty much um here's 654 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:37,370 there's kind of where I come down I you 655 00:35:41,830 --> 00:35:39,530 know and I know I contradict myself all 656 00:35:45,790 --> 00:35:41,840 the time in this field and and all this 657 00:35:48,070 --> 00:35:45,800 fringe stuff but you know I try to keep 658 00:35:50,380 --> 00:35:48,080 an open mind about everything but the 659 00:35:54,310 --> 00:35:50,390 things that are clearly [\h__\h] I try 660 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:54,320 to you know I try to call it out as far 661 00:36:03,040 --> 00:35:57,890 as aliens I believe that there are 662 00:36:05,230 --> 00:36:03,050 aliens you know have they been here I 663 00:36:08,050 --> 00:36:05,240 believe that the you know like the 664 00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:08,060 ancient astronaut theory that that it's 665 00:36:17,590 --> 00:36:10,880 viable you know I I believe it's very 666 00:36:21,220 --> 00:36:17,600 possible as far as its force now I'm 667 00:36:25,060 --> 00:36:21,230 very skeptical of these contactee claims 668 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:25,070 I'm very skeptical of a abduction claims 669 00:36:30,190 --> 00:36:28,010 not saying it that it's impossible or 670 00:36:32,530 --> 00:36:30,200 anything but there's there's a whole lot 671 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:32,540 of other ways to explain a lot of that 672 00:36:37,930 --> 00:36:35,810 stuff and so and so and especially you 673 00:36:40,930 --> 00:36:37,940 know these people that you know that 674 00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:40,940 they they claim that you know they've 675 00:36:46,510 --> 00:36:44,000 had contact with aliens and they've got 676 00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:46,520 a message for us and you know just all 677 00:36:51,550 --> 00:36:49,760 this stuff I I just you know my kind of 678 00:36:54,820 --> 00:36:51,560 default setting with that is it's 679 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:54,830 [\h__\h] you know maybe that's a little 680 00:37:00,490 --> 00:36:57,410 too harsh or whatever but that's that's 681 00:37:02,250 --> 00:37:00,500 just kind of where I come down and what 682 00:37:05,250 --> 00:37:02,260 about you Jim 683 00:37:06,750 --> 00:37:05,260 well I think my base fairy is that to 684 00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:06,760 believe we're the smartest things ever 685 00:37:12,359 --> 00:37:09,910 anywhere is what is this hope let me 686 00:37:13,740 --> 00:37:12,369 knit so if we are it just blows my mind 687 00:37:16,170 --> 00:37:13,750 because we can't be the smartest things 688 00:37:18,270 --> 00:37:16,180 I mean wherever because if we are we're 689 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:18,280 missing this plane left home deep world 690 00:37:22,830 --> 00:37:20,770 class basis you know ending it before it 691 00:37:24,180 --> 00:37:22,840 begins and so I'm hoping there's 692 00:37:29,460 --> 00:37:24,190 something else out there somewhere who 693 00:37:30,750 --> 00:37:29,470 can be like guys really calm down or hey 694 00:37:32,940 --> 00:37:30,760 why don't you use this technology 695 00:37:34,290 --> 00:37:32,950 instead of all that stuff so hopefully 696 00:37:37,650 --> 00:37:34,300 there's something out there somewhere 697 00:37:42,150 --> 00:37:37,660 who might benefit us in some great 698 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:42,160 fashion now some of it is hard it's hard 699 00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:44,130 to swallow it's true if any of these 700 00:37:50,990 --> 00:37:48,609 genres the ghosts or the crypt or even 701 00:37:53,310 --> 00:37:51,000 the over it there's so much of it you go 702 00:37:56,330 --> 00:37:53,320 okay so I there's something out there 703 00:38:00,330 --> 00:37:56,340 and then somebody tells you about this 704 00:38:01,830 --> 00:38:00,340 Sasquatch riding a unicorn being beamed 705 00:38:04,349 --> 00:38:01,840 down for mothership and you can you know 706 00:38:06,630 --> 00:38:04,359 you see you may have seen that boy that 707 00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:06,640 sounds like way too much for one person 708 00:38:16,410 --> 00:38:12,250 to experience at one time so I guess 709 00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:16,420 this realism skepticism it's good it's 710 00:38:20,190 --> 00:38:17,920 really good and it's a good way to be 711 00:38:22,620 --> 00:38:20,200 especially about all of it because yes 712 00:38:24,330 --> 00:38:22,630 well I want to believe that there's big 713 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:24,340 putting all these these creatures out 714 00:38:27,660 --> 00:38:25,810 there and why want to believe there's a 715 00:38:30,570 --> 00:38:27,670 UFO outside my house right now 716 00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:30,580 I just can't always believe everything I 717 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:33,280 hear that Jim does to be able to confirm 718 00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:36,730 your last name is spelt mal Li Rd 719 00:38:46,270 --> 00:38:42,670 yep okay yeah the reason I'm asking 720 00:38:47,650 --> 00:38:46,280 there's an eye in there yeah that's the 721 00:38:49,930 --> 00:38:47,660 reason I'm asking is because I've got 722 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:49,940 your guest marquee below your below your 723 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:52,210 image and I just want to make sure that 724 00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:55,610 that I spelled it correctly and that 725 00:39:00,760 --> 00:38:58,850 well at this point I'm going to time to 726 00:39:05,230 --> 00:39:00,770 take my steps very carefully after this 727 00:39:06,430 --> 00:39:05,240 last week so the joke goes there may not 728 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:06,440 be an I in team but there's an I in 729 00:39:11,110 --> 00:39:07,850 Mallard so we're just gonna make it work 730 00:39:13,570 --> 00:39:11,120 oh yeah you've been even probably one of 731 00:39:15,940 --> 00:39:13,580 our closest I think you've been on the 732 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:15,950 show more recently then I'll actually 733 00:39:22,050 --> 00:39:17,450 your you been on the show I think most 734 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:22,060 more than Denver but that's kind of 735 00:39:25,540 --> 00:39:24,170 that's kind of die aggressing that the 736 00:39:28,420 --> 00:39:25,550 theme of this show at some point is 737 00:39:31,420 --> 00:39:28,430 always gonna be like ah well your roll 738 00:39:33,810 --> 00:39:31,430 with the punches and also another theme 739 00:39:37,420 --> 00:39:33,820 of the show is going to be surprises and 740 00:39:38,950 --> 00:39:37,430 I'm I'm I I do have a cause well you're 741 00:39:42,730 --> 00:39:38,960 asking a question the chant I did want 742 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:42,740 to be able to well let's just put it 743 00:39:46,210 --> 00:39:44,210 this way so we have some very big 744 00:39:47,860 --> 00:39:46,220 guardian angels out there in the world 745 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:47,870 who love the show who love what we do 746 00:39:55,150 --> 00:39:52,010 and they're helping us out when we're in 747 00:39:56,500 --> 00:39:55,160 a pinch and winner in a bind and we are 748 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:56,510 going to be having a very special guest 749 00:40:02,490 --> 00:39:58,010 on the show in about an hour 750 00:40:05,830 --> 00:40:02,500 none other than Christopher Giarratano 751 00:40:08,290 --> 00:40:05,840 from the Montauk chronicles he also does 752 00:40:12,100 --> 00:40:08,300 have a TV series on History Channel and 753 00:40:14,290 --> 00:40:12,110 sci-fi and have again revert right now 754 00:40:16,780 --> 00:40:14,300 my guardian angel is talking to him as 755 00:40:18,460 --> 00:40:16,790 we speak so we are going to get him on 756 00:40:21,610 --> 00:40:18,470 the show to be able to join in on this 757 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:21,620 discussion a toot sweet so probably in 758 00:40:25,740 --> 00:40:24,170 about 45 minutes to an hour and a half 759 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:25,750 from now I know that he's currently 760 00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:27,650 taking care of some things out there in 761 00:40:33,220 --> 00:40:31,310 California so guardian angel thank you 762 00:40:36,250 --> 00:40:33,230 very much for your support and your love 763 00:40:41,620 --> 00:40:36,260 and your help because well I need an 764 00:40:43,210 --> 00:40:41,630 intern you know what the question that 765 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:43,220 Cosmo asked is very interesting and I 766 00:40:48,250 --> 00:40:45,770 was going to bring this up he is stating 767 00:40:50,110 --> 00:40:48,260 there I should say he's asking do you 768 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:50,120 guys believe that there was one type of 769 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:53,410 alien or many races of aliens 770 00:41:03,470 --> 00:40:59,000 I I'd have to believe there's multiple 771 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:03,480 types out there but I've no I mean well 772 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:05,010 I'm guessing that I have to believe 773 00:41:09,740 --> 00:41:07,530 there's at least one so I would believe 774 00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:09,750 there's multiples I mean both the galaxy 775 00:41:16,460 --> 00:41:14,609 being so infinite so endless again I 776 00:41:21,620 --> 00:41:16,470 can't imagine there being just one other 777 00:41:25,370 --> 00:41:21,630 group out there and Denver yeah I kind 778 00:41:29,330 --> 00:41:25,380 of you know assuming that there are 779 00:41:31,490 --> 00:41:29,340 aliens I yeah I've done I'm like I'm 780 00:41:33,830 --> 00:41:31,500 like Jim I can't imagine that that 781 00:41:35,470 --> 00:41:33,840 there's only one type you would you 782 00:41:38,630 --> 00:41:35,480 would think that there's you know 783 00:41:40,490 --> 00:41:38,640 multiple types there's probably good 784 00:41:43,550 --> 00:41:40,500 ones probably bad ones 785 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:43,560 you know just that's kind of what I 786 00:41:52,430 --> 00:41:47,970 think and my usual position on this type 787 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:52,440 of thing is it seems very what's the 788 00:41:57,140 --> 00:41:55,650 what's the proper term arrogant to think 789 00:42:01,910 --> 00:41:57,150 that we're alone in this you know in 790 00:42:05,220 --> 00:42:01,920 this very vast vast vast cosmos I've 791 00:42:06,990 --> 00:42:05,230 always believed that there are 792 00:42:09,690 --> 00:42:07,000 multiple races out there I don't know 793 00:42:11,220 --> 00:42:09,700 what they are it could be the greys [\h__\h] 794 00:42:14,010 --> 00:42:11,230 the reptilians could actually [\h__\h] 795 00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:14,020 exist for all I know I just don't think 796 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:15,520 that they're transdimensional 797 00:42:20,730 --> 00:42:18,490 soul-sucking vampires that you know is 798 00:42:22,650 --> 00:42:20,740 masquerading as the Queen or oh wait 799 00:42:25,230 --> 00:42:22,660 wait well maybe they are have you seen 800 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:25,240 never mind I'll save the joke about 801 00:42:28,980 --> 00:42:27,130 Congress for another day know that 802 00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:28,990 they're they're just old that's called 803 00:42:35,630 --> 00:42:31,510 being old that's yeah I understand the 804 00:42:38,490 --> 00:42:35,640 wrinkled skin may give you a summit of a 805 00:42:41,099 --> 00:42:38,500 first-hand glance or representation of 806 00:42:43,530 --> 00:42:41,109 that but no you're you're just looking 807 00:42:48,090 --> 00:42:43,540 at regular bloodsuckers not you know not 808 00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:48,100 of the reptilian alien kind that's my 809 00:42:54,420 --> 00:42:50,710 nihilistic uneven nihilistic just very 810 00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:54,430 very pessimistic political commentary 811 00:42:58,740 --> 00:42:56,560 for today I'm not gonna go too deep into 812 00:43:01,740 --> 00:42:58,750 it I know there's a lot of stuff going 813 00:43:03,420 --> 00:43:01,750 on you know [\h__\h] of you guys open to to 814 00:43:05,820 --> 00:43:03,430 talk about politics a little bit see if 815 00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:05,830 we can keep it on the UFO tip that was 816 00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:09,040 kind of the point for tonight I'm up for 817 00:43:14,420 --> 00:43:10,480 I'm always up for anything stuff I 818 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:16,800 well you can get that camera back on we 819 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:25,810 can see we can make some money where's 820 00:43:28,590 --> 00:43:27,130 your money going I'm talking about to 821 00:43:29,820 --> 00:43:28,600 see how many peanuts you can catch you 822 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:29,830 know in your mouth after throwing it up 823 00:43:33,380 --> 00:43:32,290 and see how you know in a row like did 824 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:33,390 you guys don't do that 825 00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:37,690 you don't know you know I suppose we 826 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:39,520 could do softcore porn sure but you know 827 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:40,930 the peanut thing is it sounds a lot more 828 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:43,930 interesting so the idea of this 829 00:43:49,260 --> 00:43:45,690 particular episode was to discuss 830 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:49,270 disclosure 2017 originally in our first 831 00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:50,530 episode when we talked with Steve 832 00:43:55,620 --> 00:43:53,440 Bassett and we I'm gonna I was going to 833 00:43:56,970 --> 00:43:55,630 use the word drill but we probably would 834 00:44:00,630 --> 00:43:56,980 have been a bad term with the subject 835 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:00,640 matter if I my last joke we questioned 836 00:44:09,780 --> 00:44:04,330 him quite extensively on the idea of 837 00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:09,790 disclosure from you know how close is it 838 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:11,590 going to come if Hillary came in and at 839 00:44:16,349 --> 00:44:14,290 that point I'm like well the poll said 840 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:16,359 one thing but I knew Trump was going to 841 00:44:19,720 --> 00:44:18,050 win because you know 842 00:44:22,270 --> 00:44:19,730 that's the kind of luck we have I guess 843 00:44:25,090 --> 00:44:22,280 so uh 844 00:44:26,350 --> 00:44:25,100 and be able to get the idea of well 845 00:44:28,570 --> 00:44:26,360 how's it gonna happen if you've got 846 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:28,580 somebody who's more concerned with how 847 00:44:35,830 --> 00:44:32,450 good he looks on TV and versus actually 848 00:44:37,090 --> 00:44:35,840 releasing knowledge of aliens how do we 849 00:44:39,130 --> 00:44:37,100 know who's gonna have our best interests 850 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:39,140 in terms of disclosure at heart what do 851 00:44:43,620 --> 00:44:41,290 you guys think 852 00:44:48,510 --> 00:44:47,220 I mean if you're asking me man I I've 853 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:48,520 kind of been over this with you before 854 00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:51,970 if you think for one second if there was 855 00:44:56,820 --> 00:44:54,250 a better chance of disclosure with 856 00:45:02,100 --> 00:44:56,830 Hillary than with Trump or with anybody 857 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:02,110 really I don't know man I I I just don't 858 00:45:07,050 --> 00:45:03,490 really even know how to address that I 859 00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:07,060 mean Hillary Clinton was not gonna give 860 00:45:13,980 --> 00:45:09,040 you disclosure if that's what you 861 00:45:15,540 --> 00:45:13,990 thought I think that if I mean it I just 862 00:45:19,650 --> 00:45:15,550 don't even know why anybody would think 863 00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:19,660 that I just it's unfathomable fathom a 864 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:23,200 bullet through me well what do you think 865 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:27,010 Jim I I agree if Denver and I asked Jim 866 00:45:30,870 --> 00:45:28,810 Marrs about this hate to plug Michelle 867 00:45:32,610 --> 00:45:30,880 but it's a great great soundbite from 868 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:32,620 you Jim you're helping me out plug away 869 00:45:37,650 --> 00:45:36,130 as much as you want about I asked him 870 00:45:39,450 --> 00:45:37,660 what what would happen if I got 871 00:45:41,250 --> 00:45:39,460 disclosure he says would you believe a 872 00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:41,260 politician that came out and said there 873 00:45:46,140 --> 00:45:43,510 was aliens 874 00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:46,150 and I like well I don't believe anything 875 00:45:50,910 --> 00:45:48,730 a politician says anyway so what's I 876 00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:50,920 mean if he came out with stacks of 877 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:52,510 papers and there'd be this hole there 878 00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:53,770 would be a crowd that would believe him 879 00:45:56,700 --> 00:45:55,150 and say see we told you there'd be a 880 00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:56,710 crowd that says oh that's all fake and 881 00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:58,810 he's just putting out there is 882 00:46:03,780 --> 00:46:00,640 misinformation so no matter what a 883 00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:03,790 politician would tell us I don't know if 884 00:46:08,820 --> 00:46:06,070 we believe it anyways and one side or 885 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:08,830 the other I don't know so I think bill 886 00:46:13,020 --> 00:46:10,570 was supposed to do at one point and then 887 00:46:14,670 --> 00:46:13,030 it became Hillary and John Podesta was 888 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:14,680 trying to get Obama to do it so it just 889 00:46:19,710 --> 00:46:16,450 seems like it just keeps sliding further 890 00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:19,720 and further and further from where it 891 00:46:23,340 --> 00:46:21,520 should be and so I don't know if it ever 892 00:46:25,740 --> 00:46:23,350 happened I know we kind of did you know 893 00:46:27,690 --> 00:46:25,750 it died it devolved into whatever [\h__\h] 894 00:46:33,450 --> 00:46:27,700 show's going on down south and if if it 895 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:33,460 is I'm on the fence that I'm not a trump 896 00:46:37,620 --> 00:46:34,930 supporter not for any of the other 897 00:46:41,490 --> 00:46:37,630 reasons that anybody else says it's just 898 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:41,500 because he's I think personally and 899 00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:42,850 again I'm not going to speak for him 900 00:46:47,940 --> 00:46:45,250 he's a public figure but this is my own 901 00:46:51,930 --> 00:46:47,950 personal opinion it may not actually 902 00:46:53,220 --> 00:46:51,940 represent the man himself so please take 903 00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:53,230 it with a grain of salt and that's fine 904 00:47:00,450 --> 00:46:56,110 illegal disclosure I think the man's 905 00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:00,460 dumbest [\h__\h] I think he is utterly okay 906 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:02,110 he's either dumbest [\h__\h] or he has 907 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:03,850 dementia one of the two 908 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:07,450 he's like 72 years old his father had 909 00:47:10,980 --> 00:47:09,370 dementia if I'm not mistaken or 910 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:10,990 Alzheimer's and that [\h__\h] is hereditary 911 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:12,610 these about the age that it starts to 912 00:47:18,420 --> 00:47:15,490 manifest noticeably and if you note if 913 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:18,430 you notice any of his on on-camera 914 00:47:23,460 --> 00:47:21,010 appearances now compared to let's say 15 915 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:23,470 years ago 20 years ago like his old CNN 916 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:25,330 interviews when he was actually talking 917 00:47:29,070 --> 00:47:27,610 and making sense about his policies 918 00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:29,080 about his beliefs and he actually seemed 919 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:30,880 like somebody that may make a good 920 00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:33,370 president it's not the man that we 921 00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:34,480 actually have in the White House right 922 00:47:41,610 --> 00:47:39,310 now fundamentally from a possibly from 923 00:47:43,350 --> 00:47:41,620 an emotional maturity standpoint and 924 00:47:44,610 --> 00:47:43,360 possibly a mental faculty standpoint 925 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:44,620 again that is my opinion 926 00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:46,210 not saying it's actually true this is 927 00:47:49,590 --> 00:47:47,680 these are things that I noticed and I've 928 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:49,600 gone back and I've watched a shit-ton of 929 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:52,570 his interviews it's not the same man to 930 00:47:56,750 --> 00:47:55,690 me so if you're expecting him to be able 931 00:48:00,380 --> 00:47:56,760 to 932 00:48:01,670 --> 00:48:00,390 clothes UFOs there's no way in hell it 933 00:48:02,420 --> 00:48:01,680 would ever happen under his 934 00:48:07,010 --> 00:48:02,430 administration 935 00:48:08,990 --> 00:48:07,020 maybe if Bannon actually and I think he 936 00:48:10,580 --> 00:48:09,000 may not be the devil as much as people 937 00:48:12,470 --> 00:48:10,590 would put him out to be I think he's 938 00:48:15,050 --> 00:48:12,480 doing what he thinks is right even if I 939 00:48:16,340 --> 00:48:15,060 don't agree with it or not but if he got 940 00:48:20,030 --> 00:48:16,350 a hold of it I think ban and will put it 941 00:48:21,740 --> 00:48:20,040 out or he was illegit Koechner to to to 942 00:48:23,090 --> 00:48:21,750 up it is his own ass with with the debt 943 00:48:25,340 --> 00:48:23,100 he has and his own money in his own 944 00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:25,350 influence in his own you know being in 945 00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:26,910 the position he and he's in at his age 946 00:48:31,010 --> 00:48:29,250 which is insane for most people to look 947 00:48:32,420 --> 00:48:31,020 at because it's like how the did this 30 948 00:48:34,340 --> 00:48:32,430 something year old get you know into an 949 00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:34,350 advisory position in the White House oh 950 00:48:40,310 --> 00:48:36,240 that's right he married the president's 951 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:40,320 daughter you know a long time ago can I 952 00:48:44,450 --> 00:48:42,210 stop you from it and furthest back at 953 00:48:45,140 --> 00:48:44,460 you though [\h__\h] man me this would this 954 00:48:47,330 --> 00:48:45,150 worry about here 955 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:47,340 he seat he seems interested in the tweet 956 00:48:52,130 --> 00:48:48,690 and interested in living for the moment 957 00:48:54,590 --> 00:48:52,140 and that owning that news cycle what 958 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:54,600 some point this Russia stuff's gonna go 959 00:49:04,340 --> 00:48:57,570 away so he's gonna need something else 960 00:49:07,070 --> 00:49:04,350 to Trump it I know a bad pun that so 961 00:49:09,860 --> 00:49:07,080 could could it be UFOs could have peeed 962 00:49:12,820 --> 00:49:09,870 the space aliens are interfering with 963 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:12,830 whatever 964 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:16,010 at some point somebody Talia can mark 965 00:49:19,900 --> 00:49:17,810 this because as if it comes true I'm 966 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:19,910 sitting on a gold mine because I said it 967 00:49:28,690 --> 00:49:27,400 so please go to den of Lord calm and you 968 00:49:31,750 --> 00:49:28,700 know download this episode when I 969 00:49:34,450 --> 00:49:31,760 actually have the time to release it 970 00:49:38,110 --> 00:49:34,460 ya know man late last week's episode 971 00:49:39,970 --> 00:49:38,120 it's four and a half hours the mp3 the 972 00:49:41,860 --> 00:49:39,980 initial mp3 and after all fall all the 973 00:49:44,140 --> 00:49:41,870 patrons out there I have not missed an 974 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:44,150 episode in a month yet it will get 975 00:49:48,460 --> 00:49:46,130 released it's been sitting in my 976 00:49:50,260 --> 00:49:48,470 download box for the last week I've been 977 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:50,270 dealing with everything having to do 978 00:49:54,190 --> 00:49:52,010 with John Anthony West and like 979 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:54,200 basically it's it's paid a mortgage 980 00:50:00,070 --> 00:49:57,290 John Anthony West den of lore because 981 00:50:01,180 --> 00:50:00,080 this show is great and I love the fact 982 00:50:03,970 --> 00:50:01,190 that we have so many passionate 983 00:50:06,130 --> 00:50:03,980 listeners but if you're trying to help a 984 00:50:10,150 --> 00:50:06,140 man who's been basically what you know 985 00:50:11,950 --> 00:50:10,160 come back from the brink of you know the 986 00:50:12,460 --> 00:50:11,960 end essentially from from stage four 987 00:50:14,620 --> 00:50:12,470 cancer 988 00:50:19,720 --> 00:50:14,630 [\h__\h] it you put it all in as much as you 989 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:19,730 can that's that's how you do it but the 990 00:50:30,670 --> 00:50:28,030 this particular administration with the 991 00:50:32,260 --> 00:50:30,680 [\h__\h] they're dealing with I'm still you 992 00:50:33,340 --> 00:50:32,270 probably won't see it I'm not even sure 993 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:33,350 if you would see it with the next 994 00:50:39,070 --> 00:50:35,410 administration 995 00:50:41,500 --> 00:50:39,080 let me jump in you're not you're not 996 00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:41,510 gonna see with any administration I mean 997 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:43,730 it's just it's just not gonna happen and 998 00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:47,050 and it's like Jim said just now yeah 999 00:50:56,140 --> 00:50:51,200 even if it did happen you couldn't trust 1000 00:50:58,510 --> 00:50:56,150 it right and if you could trust it then 1001 00:51:00,850 --> 00:50:58,520 I mean you better head for the hills 1002 00:51:03,100 --> 00:51:00,860 because it's a distraction from some 1003 00:51:05,530 --> 00:51:03,110 really really really bad [\h__\h] that's 1004 00:51:07,660 --> 00:51:05,540 about to go down I mean like they're 1005 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:07,670 launching some nukes against North Korea 1006 00:51:16,150 --> 00:51:11,410 or so or somewhere if it did happen and 1007 00:51:18,340 --> 00:51:16,160 and this I mean I just think to me and I 1008 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:18,350 just think the whole disclosure movement 1009 00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:22,930 is flawed and it's a waste of time 1010 00:51:30,550 --> 00:51:26,240 number one I mean we don't even know 1011 00:51:31,150 --> 00:51:30,560 that aliens exist right I believe they 1012 00:51:40,030 --> 00:51:31,160 exist 1013 00:51:42,940 --> 00:51:40,040 really don't know that the government 1014 00:51:46,210 --> 00:51:42,950 knows any more than we do you would like 1015 00:51:48,220 --> 00:51:46,220 to think they do but we don't know I 1016 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:48,230 mean the government that I mean the big 1017 00:51:54,460 --> 00:51:50,210 cover-up might be that the government 1018 00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:54,470 doesn't know [\h__\h] either you know so I 1019 00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:57,770 mean to me that the the best approach 1020 00:52:03,010 --> 00:52:00,800 would be more for instead of people to 1021 00:52:07,210 --> 00:52:03,020 me wasting their time with a disclosure 1022 00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:07,220 movement would be more to have a you 1023 00:52:13,330 --> 00:52:10,160 know prove more that aliens exist right 1024 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:13,340 because then if we could prove or at 1025 00:52:19,450 --> 00:52:16,610 least convince 75% of the people that 1026 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:19,460 aliens actually exist it doesn't really 1027 00:52:25,980 --> 00:52:21,170 matter what the government says right 1028 00:52:30,070 --> 00:52:28,630 what about the black budgets what about 1029 00:52:31,870 --> 00:52:30,080 all of Baltimore what I'm going to say 1030 00:52:35,940 --> 00:52:31,880 the interesting technology that we have 1031 00:52:38,990 --> 00:52:35,950 out there we haven't had one shred of 1032 00:52:41,810 --> 00:52:39,000 tangible proof which 1033 00:52:45,490 --> 00:52:41,820 I'm saying we've had proof radar 1034 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:45,500 signatures are more than enough to 1035 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:47,370 validate that there was some type of 1036 00:52:53,030 --> 00:52:51,090 phenomena manaan happening in terms of 1037 00:52:55,090 --> 00:52:53,040 eyewitness reports of Croton I'm going 1038 00:52:59,990 --> 00:52:55,100 to see more credible eyewitness reports 1039 00:53:02,750 --> 00:53:00,000 there is well you know I actually can't 1040 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:02,760 think of any everyone has some type of 1041 00:53:09,290 --> 00:53:07,650 disputed or around them and I am 1042 00:53:12,110 --> 00:53:09,300 remissed to be able to think of anybody 1043 00:53:16,550 --> 00:53:12,120 who could be said that they have 1044 00:53:18,380 --> 00:53:16,560 actually seen secret technology where 1045 00:53:21,980 --> 00:53:18,390 the explanation has been anything beyond 1046 00:53:23,540 --> 00:53:21,990 fent completely fantastical and I'm 1047 00:53:28,850 --> 00:53:23,550 trying to think of his name oh my 1048 00:53:34,810 --> 00:53:28,860 goodness area 51 guy Lazar Lazar thank 1049 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:34,820 you I was thinking these guys I mean you 1050 00:53:40,580 --> 00:53:38,490 can believe any of these people and even 1051 00:53:42,620 --> 00:53:40,590 if they are even even if they are coming 1052 00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:42,630 forward with some information they're 1053 00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:46,110 breaking you know their their oaths they 1054 00:53:51,650 --> 00:53:48,480 should be in jail because of the oaths 1055 00:53:53,450 --> 00:53:51,660 that they're breaking right so it's can 1056 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:53,460 you believe anybody that's coming 1057 00:53:58,040 --> 00:53:55,530 forward saying oh I've worked with this 1058 00:53:59,480 --> 00:53:58,050 technology or blah blah blah you know 1059 00:54:01,100 --> 00:53:59,490 you know what I'm saying I know exactly 1060 00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:01,110 what you're saying you sign a 1061 00:54:08,210 --> 00:54:05,280 nondisclosure agreement when you when 1062 00:54:10,910 --> 00:54:08,220 you get a security clearance and it was 1063 00:54:12,430 --> 00:54:10,920 right there you know you reveal and you 1064 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:12,440 don't even have to reveal classified 1065 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:15,330 stuff to get in trouble you know you can 1066 00:54:19,490 --> 00:54:17,610 you can just you can you can reveal you 1067 00:54:21,770 --> 00:54:19,500 know everything is sensitive in that 1068 00:54:24,170 --> 00:54:21,780 world even if it's not marked classified 1069 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:24,180 it doesn't matter unless it's 1070 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:26,370 need-to-know you can't talk about it you 1071 00:54:30,830 --> 00:54:28,170 can't say anything about it so anybody 1072 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:30,840 that comes forward saying that they that 1073 00:54:39,590 --> 00:54:35,370 they know of some technology or whatever 1074 00:54:41,420 --> 00:54:39,600 if they're not in jail then you know 1075 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:41,430 kind of makes me kind of makes me think 1076 00:54:45,500 --> 00:54:43,530 it's [\h__\h] or if they would leak that 1077 00:54:47,930 --> 00:54:45,510 they'd probably be prosecuted or 1078 00:54:50,830 --> 00:54:47,940 whatever it seems I don't know I'm just 1079 00:54:54,590 --> 00:54:50,840 skeptical of the whole disclosure thing 1080 00:54:58,100 --> 00:54:54,600 you know god bless people that you know 1081 00:55:02,000 --> 00:54:58,110 we're trying for it but I don't know man 1082 00:55:06,910 --> 00:55:02,010 I think it's kind of a waste of time I'm 1083 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:06,920 of the belief that anything is possible 1084 00:55:12,650 --> 00:55:11,370 technically within reason it should say 1085 00:55:15,940 --> 00:55:12,660 whether it's plausible or not is 1086 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:18,080 when it came to Lazar there are some 1087 00:55:22,820 --> 00:55:19,530 things that check out there are a lot of 1088 00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:22,830 things that don't and I know that there 1089 00:55:26,780 --> 00:55:25,200 is one guest and I've actually had 1090 00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:26,790 discussions with this man and I know 1091 00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:29,370 that he has disputed some things that 1092 00:55:32,810 --> 00:55:30,960 Lazzara said and that would be the the 1093 00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:32,820 great Stanton Friedman well actually 1094 00:55:38,930 --> 00:55:37,040 joining us on the show next month and he 1095 00:55:40,550 --> 00:55:38,940 makes some good sense it's like know 1096 00:55:44,420 --> 00:55:40,560 there are people who apparently went to 1097 00:55:46,670 --> 00:55:44,430 school with him who either would say no 1098 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:46,680 he was not you know that level of 1099 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:48,570 expertise or at the same time it's like 1100 00:55:52,910 --> 00:55:50,370 no I didn't go to school with him or he 1101 00:55:54,380 --> 00:55:52,920 didn't go to that wasn't in that faculty 1102 00:55:57,230 --> 00:55:54,390 or if he was he was in a completely 1103 00:55:58,370 --> 00:55:57,240 different department none of his ID 1104 00:56:00,740 --> 00:55:58,380 actually checks out his security 1105 00:56:02,750 --> 00:56:00,750 clearance doesn't check out and I could 1106 00:56:05,090 --> 00:56:02,760 say for myself I've had jobs where 1107 00:56:07,190 --> 00:56:05,100 security clearance is necessary can't 1108 00:56:10,310 --> 00:56:07,200 say what those are no it's not any 1109 00:56:12,590 --> 00:56:10,320 Illuminati type [\h__\h] I'm a marketing guy 1110 00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:12,600 I'm an advertising guy and it's just 1111 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:14,400 doing it for an agency that deals with 1112 00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:15,210 the government do you deal with 1113 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:17,040 documents and stuff like that it's it's 1114 00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:19,290 literally extremely boring when you 1115 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:22,110 think about it but yeah even because of 1116 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:24,690 that even with that security clearance 1117 00:56:29,810 --> 00:56:26,010 it's like I understand what that is and 1118 00:56:31,220 --> 00:56:29,820 you do have a certain amount of I'm 1119 00:56:32,180 --> 00:56:31,230 gonna say pride for the fact that you 1120 00:56:33,590 --> 00:56:32,190 could be trusted with certain 1121 00:56:34,670 --> 00:56:33,600 information or at least could be trusted 1122 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:34,680 to be able to do a job and you're not 1123 00:56:38,210 --> 00:56:36,330 going to betray that trust with your 1124 00:56:40,550 --> 00:56:38,220 employer that is the frame of mind that 1125 00:56:42,980 --> 00:56:40,560 anybody who has us to the clearance will 1126 00:56:47,180 --> 00:56:42,990 do unless there is an an absolute 1127 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:47,190 ethical experience or situation that 1128 00:56:52,820 --> 00:56:49,290 sometimes that people will go outside of 1129 00:56:55,010 --> 00:56:52,830 those bounds but they are so far and few 1130 00:56:58,340 --> 00:56:55,020 in between it's not even funny and 1131 00:57:00,650 --> 00:56:58,350 usually when they do come out the 1132 00:57:03,110 --> 00:57:00,660 they're either discredited or they don't 1133 00:57:04,370 --> 00:57:03,120 get heard or they don't even get on the 1134 00:57:05,990 --> 00:57:04,380 shows like this 1135 00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:06,000 and I'm saying about like this is you 1136 00:57:13,190 --> 00:57:08,480 know a YouTube interactive video 1137 00:57:16,430 --> 00:57:13,200 centrist program that doesn't deal too 1138 00:57:18,490 --> 00:57:16,440 much of the fantastical so even when 1139 00:57:21,529 --> 00:57:18,500 you're dealing with that type of 1140 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:21,539 restricted belief because of the amount 1141 00:57:25,309 --> 00:57:22,890 of times that we've been fooled it's 1142 00:57:26,779 --> 00:57:25,319 very difficult to ever consider that 1143 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:26,789 somebody could possibly take that route 1144 00:57:32,269 --> 00:57:28,130 and knowing it's made about one in 1145 00:57:34,009 --> 00:57:32,279 100,000 what about when do you think 1146 00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:34,019 that one one in 100,000 will actually 1147 00:57:39,250 --> 00:57:36,240 happen or has it happened and who do you 1148 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:39,260 think that actually was 1149 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:45,900 thrown it to you Denver oh yeah I I 1150 00:57:55,060 --> 00:57:51,050 don't know man it's a little bit I wish 1151 00:57:56,890 --> 00:57:55,070 I had a better answer I don't know I'm 1152 00:58:01,300 --> 00:57:56,900 trying to figure out my answer to now 1153 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:01,310 I've never had a better answer well it's 1154 00:58:06,790 --> 00:58:04,370 tough though because we no matter who 1155 00:58:09,130 --> 00:58:06,800 the person is like Denver will take them 1156 00:58:13,830 --> 00:58:09,140 or for example he's an author we're 1157 00:58:16,450 --> 00:58:13,840 always buying his story so to speak and 1158 00:58:18,340 --> 00:58:16,460 nobody really knows that except that 1159 00:58:20,980 --> 00:58:18,350 person what they're telling you is truth 1160 00:58:23,950 --> 00:58:20,990 or shades of truth or just flat-out 1161 00:58:27,970 --> 00:58:23,960 telling you something to make themselves 1162 00:58:29,740 --> 00:58:27,980 more popular make make money get more 1163 00:58:32,170 --> 00:58:29,750 attention nobody knows their intention 1164 00:58:34,180 --> 00:58:32,180 except them and it's it's really hard 1165 00:58:35,980 --> 00:58:34,190 especially it's hard especially all the 1166 00:58:37,870 --> 00:58:35,990 stuff that we talked about trying to 1167 00:58:39,070 --> 00:58:37,880 judge people and then judge what people 1168 00:58:41,890 --> 00:58:39,080 other people have said about those 1169 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:41,900 people versus what we've what we think 1170 00:58:53,050 --> 00:58:45,410 and it really can get to be troubling 1171 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:53,060 and hard to do now is it gonna get easy 1172 00:58:59,690 --> 00:58:56,450 here yeah it's gonna get any easier no 1173 00:59:03,170 --> 00:58:59,700 it's only gonna get work yeah 1174 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:03,180 and what do you think besides guy and 1175 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:04,890 I'll put this out there to you guys and 1176 00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:06,930 I asked Michael last week and he didn't 1177 00:59:09,500 --> 00:59:08,400 give me a straight answer 1178 00:59:12,170 --> 00:59:09,510 I know Denver you don't really give a 1179 00:59:13,220 --> 00:59:12,180 [\h__\h] Jim here you're a little bit of an 1180 00:59:15,410 --> 00:59:13,230 interesting position with this one 1181 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:15,420 because all you you run a show that well 1182 00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:17,370 you think you have a lot more listeners 1183 00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:18,720 than we do and this could have this 1184 00:59:22,130 --> 00:59:20,250 could affect you feel if you actually 1185 00:59:27,590 --> 00:59:22,140 answer it truthfully at the top of your 1186 00:59:29,060 --> 00:59:27,600 mind of the people who are flattered who 1187 00:59:31,250 --> 00:59:29,070 do you think is full of [\h__\h] who do you 1188 00:59:33,980 --> 00:59:31,260 think is trying to blow smoke up the 1189 00:59:35,540 --> 00:59:33,990 asses of people on you know from the 1190 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:35,550 believers side from people who actually 1191 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:37,170 do genuine believe or may have actually 1192 00:59:45,230 --> 00:59:40,530 experienced something and who do you 1193 00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:45,240 think is playing the I want to make 1194 00:59:50,030 --> 00:59:46,650 money and that's all and I've got this 1195 00:59:53,540 --> 00:59:50,040 fantastic story but you know let's do 1196 00:59:59,540 --> 00:59:56,630 what's your tale you know I do I'm not 1197 01:00:01,910 --> 00:59:59,550 gonna say I'm not gonna give you a 1198 01:00:04,490 --> 01:00:01,920 non-answer but truthfully I don't study 1199 01:00:06,770 --> 01:00:04,500 the UFO community as much as as much as 1200 01:00:09,590 --> 01:00:06,780 you probably do but it does become 1201 01:00:15,380 --> 01:00:09,600 interesting to see the people who are 1202 01:00:18,100 --> 01:00:15,390 always ruining themselves of a new book 1203 01:00:22,010 --> 01:00:18,110 they've worked with somebody else or 1204 01:00:24,250 --> 01:00:22,020 always seem to be popping up at these 1205 01:00:26,450 --> 01:00:24,260 events there's this level of I mean 1206 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:26,460 especially in the UFO mythology 1207 01:00:32,270 --> 01:00:28,050 community there seems to be this level 1208 01:00:33,980 --> 01:00:32,280 of haves and have-nots and I don't 1209 01:00:35,090 --> 01:00:33,990 understand why the cycle continues when 1210 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:35,100 we're talking about things that have 1211 01:00:41,810 --> 01:00:40,050 happened for 30 40 50 years ago I think 1212 01:00:43,670 --> 01:00:41,820 I mean how many interviews can you do 1213 01:00:46,460 --> 01:00:43,680 about what I say Roswell for the sake of 1214 01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:46,470 this conversation there's no new 1215 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:49,050 information coming out and you can 1216 01:00:53,030 --> 01:00:51,090 interview the same guy twice and nothing 1217 01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:53,040 new is going to come from it but yet 1218 01:00:57,590 --> 01:00:55,440 they continue to push out books or sell 1219 01:00:59,030 --> 01:00:57,600 the same book and continue to go do all 1220 01:01:01,630 --> 01:00:59,040 these speaking events at what point do 1221 01:01:03,860 --> 01:01:01,640 we all just say okay thanks you're done 1222 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:03,870 but it doesn't seem to happen and I'm 1223 01:01:12,339 --> 01:01:07,490 not I'm not sure why it doesn't happen 1224 01:01:16,569 --> 01:01:12,349 and Denver what do you think as far as 1225 01:01:20,500 --> 01:01:16,579 people that that I think are full of 1226 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:20,510 [\h__\h] I'd be nurse I don't think we got 1227 01:01:31,859 --> 01:01:28,970 enough time to put it this I don't name 1228 01:01:37,839 --> 01:01:31,869 any names personally but I'm I'm real 1229 01:01:41,559 --> 01:01:37,849 skeptical of people that that the ETS 1230 01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:41,569 have given them messages right or and 1231 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:43,040 you know like like I told you early I'm 1232 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:45,530 real skeptical of abductions I'm not 1233 01:01:51,180 --> 01:01:47,690 saying that they have happened or 1234 01:01:55,780 --> 01:01:51,190 haven't happened or what have you but 1235 01:01:57,339 --> 01:01:55,790 I'm not sure that you know in a lot of 1236 01:01:59,890 --> 01:01:57,349 times there's probably something going 1237 01:02:02,170 --> 01:01:59,900 on in those cases I'm just not so 1238 01:02:04,569 --> 01:02:02,180 positive that it's you know that it's an 1239 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:04,579 alien abduction and and you know and any 1240 01:02:10,990 --> 01:02:08,210 time I hear these claims of you know 1241 01:02:13,420 --> 01:02:11,000 people that you know aliens have 1242 01:02:15,970 --> 01:02:13,430 abducted them and had sex with you know 1243 01:02:18,730 --> 01:02:15,980 they're just stuff like that man I just 1244 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:18,740 I just don't have much of much room for 1245 01:02:26,290 --> 01:02:21,610 you know 1246 01:02:29,620 --> 01:02:26,300 I'm here here's a Linda go I'm gonna 1247 01:02:34,510 --> 01:02:29,630 take the middle of the road approach but 1248 01:02:35,590 --> 01:02:34,520 when you get people like it I don't 1249 01:02:36,970 --> 01:02:35,600 necessarily think everyone's full of 1250 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:36,980 [\h__\h] I don't think anybody's really 1251 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:39,290 necessarily full of [\h__\h] I think there 1252 01:02:42,610 --> 01:02:40,250 may be certain people who may have 1253 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:42,620 embellished in certain cases such and 1254 01:02:47,020 --> 01:02:44,650 being one of them 1255 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:47,030 he again he's not alive to able to 1256 01:02:49,750 --> 01:02:48,650 defend himself if he were he come on the 1257 01:02:55,510 --> 01:02:49,760 show and I'd probably get death threats 1258 01:03:00,670 --> 01:02:58,600 it just doesn't jive and it's very 70s 1259 01:03:03,100 --> 01:03:00,680 based in terms of technology whereas we 1260 01:03:04,630 --> 01:03:03,110 have like even for myself when I was a 1261 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:04,640 kid I used to write stories that were 1262 01:03:08,830 --> 01:03:07,010 you know straight out of Star Trek level 1263 01:03:14,350 --> 01:03:08,840 of technology of course I watched a lot 1264 01:03:19,020 --> 01:03:14,360 of Star Trek people who follow him do 1265 01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:19,030 not necessarily have to be knowingly 1266 01:03:23,350 --> 01:03:22,130 misleading individuals or it's possible 1267 01:03:24,610 --> 01:03:23,360 that maybe they just understand it 1268 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:24,620 better than I do and I could be [\h__\h] 1269 01:03:28,810 --> 01:03:27,650 completely wrong I don't know but I 1270 01:03:31,630 --> 01:03:28,820 don't think there's necessarily any bit 1271 01:03:35,860 --> 01:03:31,640 anybody out there who's full of [\h__\h] you 1272 01:03:39,430 --> 01:03:35,870 know you have people like well you know 1273 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:39,440 I'll use I'll use Steve Bassett as an 1274 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:41,450 example the man's never seen a UFO at 1275 01:03:44,290 --> 01:03:42,770 least to my knowledge the last time I 1276 01:03:46,090 --> 01:03:44,300 talked it was he almost a year ago and 1277 01:03:49,870 --> 01:03:46,100 he's never seen a UFO yet he believes in 1278 01:03:51,940 --> 01:03:49,880 it he's a little boisterous with the way 1279 01:03:54,130 --> 01:03:51,950 he does his lectures and mostly that's 1280 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:54,140 for showmanship into trying to capture 1281 01:04:00,610 --> 01:03:55,970 people's attention I get that completely 1282 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:00,620 I do the same thing on this show but if 1283 01:04:07,150 --> 01:04:03,890 you get individuals who are saying that 1284 01:04:08,430 --> 01:04:07,160 they have the answer the absolute answer 1285 01:04:10,930 --> 01:04:08,440 it's not just a theory 1286 01:04:12,610 --> 01:04:10,940 you look at that individual and say okay 1287 01:04:14,710 --> 01:04:12,620 maybe it's a poss maybe it's possible 1288 01:04:16,270 --> 01:04:14,720 that they could 1289 01:04:18,970 --> 01:04:16,280 they're trying too hard they're trying 1290 01:04:20,380 --> 01:04:18,980 to convince you that's the you know the 1291 01:04:21,910 --> 01:04:20,390 average snake oil salesman if they say 1292 01:04:25,090 --> 01:04:21,920 it cures everything it probably is not 1293 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:25,100 good for you like that's why even like 1294 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:26,210 even for myself if I don't necessarily 1295 01:04:31,450 --> 01:04:28,730 agree 100% with everything the guys from 1296 01:04:33,580 --> 01:04:31,460 ancient aliens say you know [\h__\h] it for 1297 01:04:34,900 --> 01:04:33,590 them they've stated very clearly yeah 1298 01:04:37,299 --> 01:04:34,910 it's a theory 1299 01:04:39,309 --> 01:04:37,309 the whole show is framed to try and grab 1300 01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:39,319 your attention and try and get you to 1301 01:04:41,559 --> 01:04:40,730 buy in as much as possible that's 1302 01:04:45,190 --> 01:04:41,569 Hollywood 1303 01:04:46,660 --> 01:04:45,200 I get that I mean I I'm a WWE fan [\h__\h] I 1304 01:04:48,700 --> 01:04:46,670 love that [\h__\h] do you do you think I 1305 01:04:53,620 --> 01:04:48,710 think that you know the fights are real 1306 01:04:54,309 --> 01:04:53,630 gnome and horse on a percent it is it's 1307 01:04:57,250 --> 01:04:54,319 entertainment 1308 01:04:59,500 --> 01:04:57,260 that's gonna stop you Chris I've got a 1309 01:05:01,480 --> 01:04:59,510 picture the ancient alien guys and Vince 1310 01:05:03,730 --> 01:05:01,490 McMahon and I just gotta stop you right 1311 01:05:05,270 --> 01:05:03,740 here when everybody else enjoy that 1312 01:05:09,150 --> 01:05:05,280 while you finished your fault I'm sorry 1313 01:05:11,289 --> 01:05:09,160 [Laughter] 1314 01:05:15,940 --> 01:05:11,299 you know what actually guys way to 1315 01:05:21,850 --> 01:05:19,930 ladies and gentlemen I'm just gonna I'm 1316 01:05:25,770 --> 01:05:21,860 sorry it continued if you'd like to 1317 01:05:29,470 --> 01:05:25,780 start again because I actually do have I 1318 01:05:31,540 --> 01:05:29,480 actually if someone to bring on well I 1319 01:05:33,970 --> 01:05:31,550 you know actually I was just talking 1320 01:05:36,940 --> 01:05:33,980 about the WTO aliens and how much fun 1321 01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:36,950 that crossover show would be I don't 1322 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:38,510 think any of the participants of agent 1323 01:05:43,750 --> 01:05:39,890 aliens would agree to be on it 1324 01:05:45,220 --> 01:05:43,760 but I think it'd be fun um you know it 1325 01:05:48,190 --> 01:05:45,230 like with Vince McMahon send me the 1326 01:05:50,350 --> 01:05:48,200 image and I'll I'll bring that on let me 1327 01:05:53,250 --> 01:05:50,360 see here no we're still going because I 1328 01:05:56,170 --> 01:05:53,260 actually just got an email from Steve oh 1329 01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:56,180 I'm still on he said it's he wrote the 1330 01:06:00,520 --> 01:05:57,650 date down wrong it's possible I'm just 1331 01:06:03,730 --> 01:06:00,530 gonna look through my and because I 1332 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:03,740 talked to him back in May and did I did 1333 01:06:10,750 --> 01:06:05,570 I [\h__\h] up it's possibly [\h__\h] up did I 1334 01:06:18,660 --> 01:06:10,760 [\h__\h] up oh no Joe I'm still okay yeah 1335 01:06:28,170 --> 01:06:25,319 make it happen now see this sounds like 1336 01:06:30,180 --> 01:06:28,180 a timezone thing I he messaged me 15 15 1337 01:06:32,519 --> 01:06:30,190 minutes ago it's possible I know that he 1338 01:06:34,289 --> 01:06:32,529 was away from his phone and it's like my 1339 01:06:37,739 --> 01:06:34,299 parents and I know I know that Steve is 1340 01:06:44,489 --> 01:06:37,749 not of our generation you know my 1341 01:06:48,450 --> 01:06:45,960 they have three phones they didn't 1342 01:06:51,299 --> 01:06:48,460 [\h__\h] answer one of them that's that 1343 01:06:52,470 --> 01:06:51,309 that's just like I called my mom cell 1344 01:06:54,239 --> 01:06:52,480 phone I call my dad cell phone I call 1345 01:06:55,559 --> 01:06:54,249 the house phone and then I go back to 1346 01:06:56,819 --> 01:06:55,569 calling my mom's cell phone and I just 1347 01:06:58,289 --> 01:06:56,829 do that round trip a couple of times 1348 01:06:59,970 --> 01:06:58,299 until somebody realizes that I'm 1349 01:07:02,539 --> 01:06:59,980 actually called and then I realized my 1350 01:07:04,229 --> 01:07:02,549 dad doesn't ever pick up the phone cuz 1351 01:07:05,579 --> 01:07:04,239 why would he do that 1352 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:05,589 and my mom's cell phone is never 1353 01:07:08,489 --> 01:07:06,970 actually with her it's in her purse at 1354 01:07:10,259 --> 01:07:08,499 the front of the house and she is a 1355 01:07:12,089 --> 01:07:10,269 smoker so she's all the way at the other 1356 01:07:15,870 --> 01:07:12,099 end of the house usually sitting outside 1357 01:07:19,380 --> 01:07:15,880 on the back patio with the screen door 1358 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:19,390 closed so she can't hear [\h__\h] in the 1359 01:07:31,769 --> 01:07:20,170 worst part 1360 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:31,779 Hortis phone cordless phone it's it's 1361 01:07:36,779 --> 01:07:33,970 and I love my parents death I really do 1362 01:07:38,430 --> 01:07:36,789 love them to death I would never never 1363 01:07:42,180 --> 01:07:38,440 ask them to change for the world it's 1364 01:07:44,309 --> 01:07:42,190 just one of those things like whenever I 1365 01:07:47,609 --> 01:07:44,319 would do something absolutely stupid for 1366 01:07:49,109 --> 01:07:47,619 instance any there's many many times 1367 01:07:50,579 --> 01:07:49,119 that I've actually done things that are 1368 01:07:51,660 --> 01:07:50,589 stupid in my life and my parents like 1369 01:07:53,009 --> 01:07:51,670 well we can't really change them so 1370 01:07:55,380 --> 01:07:53,019 we're just gonna go along with it it's 1371 01:07:56,849 --> 01:07:55,390 like when I used to run nightclubs and I 1372 01:07:58,529 --> 01:07:56,859 would end up back at my parents house my 1373 01:08:00,720 --> 01:07:58,539 mom would make me a hangover drink in 1374 01:08:04,140 --> 01:08:00,730 the morning which was usually a very 1375 01:08:05,789 --> 01:08:04,150 large milkshake with just a little bit 1376 01:08:08,729 --> 01:08:05,799 of rum in it because you hear the dog 1377 01:08:10,979 --> 01:08:08,739 and you get your vitamin C and you know 1378 01:08:15,390 --> 01:08:10,989 right up which was marked difference 1379 01:08:17,070 --> 01:08:15,400 from you know if didn't if I didn't come 1380 01:08:18,629 --> 01:08:17,080 home at all or didn't come home until 1381 01:08:20,629 --> 01:08:18,639 like 5:00 or 6:00 in the morning or 1382 01:08:23,039 --> 01:08:20,639 didn't come home until like Sunday night 1383 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:23,049 first couple of times that you know 1384 01:08:27,180 --> 01:08:25,449 there was some some issues but just like 1385 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:27,190 with anything else you know you you 1386 01:08:40,849 --> 01:08:32,210 inside are you adapt or you don't let me 1387 01:08:49,099 --> 01:08:40,859 just bring this on here and call spike a 1388 01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:49,109 little bit loud doo doo telephone it's 1389 01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:53,600 the banana phone Cohen the banana phone 1390 01:09:00,019 --> 01:08:57,810 calling out the banana phone please have 1391 01:09:03,380 --> 01:09:00,029 your phone with you today 1392 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:03,390 Denver how often do you not have your 1393 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:06,330 cell phone with you have a deep inhale 1394 01:09:15,110 --> 01:09:11,690 you oh I think I think we have contact 1395 01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:15,120 yeah okay yeah yeah yeah I know what 1396 01:09:18,740 --> 01:09:17,040 you're calling about I I sent you an 1397 01:09:21,499 --> 01:09:18,750 email and I am sorry I didn't hide the 1398 01:09:22,970 --> 01:09:21,509 time wrong I was away from the phone and 1399 01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:22,980 I really feel sorry about that soon as 1400 01:09:25,910 --> 01:09:24,930 it's live right you know it is live but 1401 01:09:28,939 --> 01:09:25,920 you want to know one of the reasons why 1402 01:09:30,590 --> 01:09:28,949 people love this show because yeah we 1403 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:30,600 don't we don't take [\h__\h] just like you 1404 01:09:34,550 --> 01:09:32,730 we're straight shooters and anything can 1405 01:09:36,110 --> 01:09:34,560 happen and that's all the whole part of 1406 01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:36,120 the entertainment experience I got my 1407 01:09:40,910 --> 01:09:39,449 set which is we have new curtains that 1408 01:09:42,829 --> 01:09:40,920 we put up since the first time you're on 1409 01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:42,839 the show and I'm in the middle of the 1410 01:09:48,170 --> 01:09:46,560 intro the opening monologue and the darn 1411 01:09:51,380 --> 01:09:48,180 thing ended up falling down on me right 1412 01:09:54,410 --> 01:09:51,390 - right mid monologue so it is all good 1413 01:09:55,700 --> 01:09:54,420 it's what makes good radio and I'd like 1414 01:09:59,660 --> 01:09:55,710 to thank you okay 1415 01:10:04,040 --> 01:09:59,670 very much Steve for Steven or mr. bass 1416 01:10:06,170 --> 01:10:04,050 which would you prefer hey hey 1417 01:10:08,450 --> 01:10:06,180 it's and I can actually bring up the 1418 01:10:12,910 --> 01:10:08,460 graphic finally because I have let's see 1419 01:10:15,660 --> 01:10:12,920 here um guest right monitor nope and 1420 01:10:23,250 --> 01:10:15,670 there we go 1421 01:10:25,300 --> 01:10:23,260 Skype goes oh we make do you want it I'm 1422 01:10:27,130 --> 01:10:25,310 sorry 1423 01:10:28,780 --> 01:10:27,140 I mean you want to do the interview now 1424 01:10:33,190 --> 01:10:28,790 oh hell why not that's that that's that 1425 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:33,200 is why we are here we have been okay 1426 01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:34,370 I've been I've been looking forward to 1427 01:10:39,550 --> 01:10:36,170 this for since the first time we had you 1428 01:10:41,830 --> 01:10:39,560 on back at the end of September and the 1429 01:10:46,210 --> 01:10:41,840 big thing case so what it wasn't lied I 1430 01:10:51,190 --> 01:10:46,220 would look and I'm a cell phone right if 1431 01:10:56,290 --> 01:10:54,040 because nothing but I'm in a area that's 1432 01:10:57,580 --> 01:10:56,300 got a connection I can get up on skype 1433 01:10:58,450 --> 01:10:57,590 IMing do the interview on sky it said 1434 01:11:00,760 --> 01:10:58,460 okay let's do it 1435 01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:00,770 um you know video not video I have I 1436 01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:03,530 have a your promo photo up right now but 1437 01:11:09,250 --> 01:11:04,970 if you wanted to jump on video we could 1438 01:11:11,770 --> 01:11:09,260 we can make that happen right and so you 1439 01:11:13,300 --> 01:11:11,780 want to do a video and he'll interview 1440 01:11:17,140 --> 01:11:13,310 so or just an audio interview with 1441 01:11:19,270 --> 01:11:17,150 whichever we're easy I'm gonna ban with 1442 01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:19,280 me can do both it's your call but let's 1443 01:11:22,480 --> 01:11:20,690 see how the bandwidth goes let me get 1444 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:22,490 set up here in the other room have you 1445 01:11:27,730 --> 01:11:25,730 sent me a am i under skype list already 1446 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:27,740 do not send maybe you were the first 1447 01:11:33,010 --> 01:11:30,970 person to be on our skype list actually 1448 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:33,020 you you're our first guest on the show 1449 01:11:40,210 --> 01:11:36,370 like way way way back when okay okay 1450 01:11:42,910 --> 01:11:40,220 okay so send me the contact do you have 1451 01:11:44,290 --> 01:11:42,920 my view you have my wait a minute you 1452 01:11:46,870 --> 01:11:44,300 say I've already got it I've already 1453 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:46,880 done the show no oh yeah well you know 1454 01:11:50,260 --> 01:11:48,410 I'm having your you're probably one of 1455 01:11:53,350 --> 01:11:50,270 you you've probably had a very battle as 1456 01:11:56,410 --> 01:11:53,360 long of a week as we've had and I'm just 1457 01:12:00,130 --> 01:11:56,420 going to Stephen that's it 1458 01:12:04,090 --> 01:12:00,140 oh it will might I can give you my 1459 01:12:05,890 --> 01:12:04,100 direct handle its asset - PRG I know 1460 01:12:08,440 --> 01:12:05,900 I've got you on here hello 1461 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:08,450 okay alright alright let's oh let me go 1462 01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:10,010 get the computer set up so we can do 1463 01:12:13,090 --> 01:12:11,570 this and it'll take me about five 1464 01:12:14,770 --> 01:12:13,100 minutes know us wonderful not a problem 1465 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:14,780 we will be waiting here with open arms 1466 01:12:24,260 --> 01:12:17,570 okay all right now Colin bye-bye 1467 01:12:24,270 --> 01:12:33,410 right now canceled do not 1468 01:12:38,390 --> 01:12:36,040 Jennifer you're still with us right oh 1469 01:12:40,820 --> 01:12:38,400 yeah I'm getting ready to jump off here 1470 01:12:42,290 --> 01:12:40,830 in a second listen to Steve oh that 1471 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:42,300 that's the beautiful part in a Jim are 1472 01:12:50,090 --> 01:12:46,890 you still on the line I think Jim did I 1473 01:12:57,459 --> 01:12:50,100 hang up on Jim dear God 1474 01:13:01,490 --> 01:12:57,469 I hung up on Jim I'm just in chat Jim 1475 01:13:04,689 --> 01:13:01,500 yeah I think he just jumped he was 1476 01:13:08,030 --> 01:13:04,699 having Wi-Fi problems at the time anyway 1477 01:13:11,060 --> 01:13:08,040 why don't you know we got this new mixer 1478 01:13:13,970 --> 01:13:11,070 I'm gonna show you this thing so to give 1479 01:13:16,630 --> 01:13:13,980 you an idea we have the new mixer right 1480 01:13:18,890 --> 01:13:16,640 here which could not have been possible 1481 01:13:20,630 --> 01:13:18,900 if it were not for the contributions of 1482 01:13:24,110 --> 01:13:20,640 our patrons I actually have this 1483 01:13:26,330 --> 01:13:24,120 wonderful mute button which I never use 1484 01:13:28,430 --> 01:13:26,340 because I'm so used to using this old 1485 01:13:30,500 --> 01:13:28,440 mixer right over here which I think I 1486 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:30,510 can show you that is the old mixer right 1487 01:13:34,729 --> 01:13:32,010 there that is going to be going to big 1488 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:34,739 Sexy's house because well it's 1489 01:13:38,780 --> 01:13:35,370 summertime 1490 01:13:42,020 --> 01:13:38,790 he works in HVAC as sales he's one of 1491 01:13:43,700 --> 01:13:42,030 our city's top salespeople and he you 1492 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:43,710 know he's an awesome as a salesperson as 1493 01:13:51,290 --> 01:13:48,290 as I am a good-looking individual and 1494 01:13:53,060 --> 01:13:51,300 you know what if he's gonna be doing the 1495 01:13:56,450 --> 01:13:53,070 show at any point in time if he has the 1496 01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:56,460 opportunity to with the summertime heat 1497 01:14:00,470 --> 01:13:58,170 and people looking for air-conditioning 1498 01:14:04,370 --> 01:14:00,480 you know I at least want him to look 1499 01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:04,380 good and sound good so we were able to 1500 01:14:09,530 --> 01:14:06,449 get this lovely lovely mixer which also 1501 01:14:15,530 --> 01:14:09,540 does have the capabilities of working 1502 01:14:19,010 --> 01:14:15,540 with our secondary and we take calls on 1503 01:14:21,830 --> 01:14:19,020 that one so if you ever do call into the 1504 01:14:23,630 --> 01:14:21,840 show if you do hear any crackling you 1505 01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:23,640 can understand now why things can be a 1506 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:25,290 little bit touch-and-go because I've got 1507 01:14:31,250 --> 01:14:29,610 one two three four five six six screens 1508 01:14:35,810 --> 01:14:31,260 plus my cell phone going off at the same 1509 01:14:38,270 --> 01:14:35,820 time plus the plus the mixer and usually 1510 01:14:39,740 --> 01:14:38,280 I've got cocoa climbing around and if 1511 01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:39,750 you hear that tinkling bell that's her 1512 01:14:46,100 --> 01:14:44,250 and as well as our lovely puppy Tyson 1513 01:14:47,030 --> 01:14:46,110 that is my five-year-old Boxer mix right 1514 01:14:49,790 --> 01:14:47,040 there 1515 01:14:54,620 --> 01:14:49,800 he's sleeping couldn't spend time but 1516 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:54,630 we're still up and we are rockin so yeah 1517 01:14:59,570 --> 01:14:56,570 that's the studio ladies and gentlemen 1518 01:15:03,200 --> 01:14:59,580 you know this has been a completely I'm 1519 01:15:07,610 --> 01:15:03,210 gonna say not oh this has been kind of a 1520 01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:07,620 crazy night and I am still having an 1521 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:08,489 absolute blast 1522 01:15:11,810 --> 01:15:10,650 yeah Jimmy Church once told me that you 1523 01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:11,820 gotta roll through this stuff 1524 01:15:15,500 --> 01:15:13,050 and I this is the last time he was on 1525 01:15:16,729 --> 01:15:15,510 the show and I said it's like well you 1526 01:15:18,710 --> 01:15:16,739 know I was talking to Mike bear and he's 1527 01:15:20,630 --> 01:15:18,720 like Chris is like yeah who's Mike Bera 1528 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:20,640 like all very serious and I kind of 1529 01:15:24,950 --> 01:15:23,370 froze going did I [\h__\h] up I just thought 1530 01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:24,960 like no man you got to keep you got to 1531 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:26,400 keep going you got to keep going 1532 01:15:35,210 --> 01:15:31,010 and I know with last week they had 1533 01:15:37,130 --> 01:15:35,220 bunker issues some problem with an 1534 01:15:53,010 --> 01:15:37,140 update somewhere that just didn't jive 1535 01:16:07,650 --> 01:16:00,750 edit that part out will this be the 1536 01:16:08,910 --> 01:16:07,660 night that's Chris finds love or will we 1537 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:08,920 get hung up on I don't think we've 1538 01:16:12,900 --> 01:16:10,810 actually we have not had a guest hang up 1539 01:16:15,210 --> 01:16:12,910 on us and we're very we've had 1540 01:16:16,650 --> 01:16:15,220 disagreements with guests Steven Myers 1541 01:16:18,750 --> 01:16:16,660 was probably the closest we've actually 1542 01:16:22,140 --> 01:16:18,760 had to a full-on disagreement on this 1543 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:22,150 show with his water locks theory with 1544 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:25,930 the pyramids and you know until then I'm 1545 01:16:30,870 --> 01:16:28,810 just like you know what we are such a 1546 01:16:33,570 --> 01:16:30,880 big lovely family and I get to come on 1547 01:16:34,830 --> 01:16:33,580 here every single week I just talk to 1548 01:16:38,340 --> 01:16:34,840 you guys about this now now you at least 1549 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:38,350 know the studio well you know what we're 1550 01:16:44,670 --> 01:16:40,170 trying to build 2.0 this is currently 1551 01:16:48,150 --> 01:16:44,680 being broadcast out of our second 1552 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:48,160 bedroom and in about six months this is 1553 01:16:53,330 --> 01:16:50,410 actually going to be a nursery so I'm 1554 01:16:55,590 --> 01:16:53,340 being forced to move to an actual 1555 01:16:57,840 --> 01:16:55,600 underground location it's called the 1556 01:17:00,000 --> 01:16:57,850 basement and we're rebuilding everything 1557 01:17:01,170 --> 01:17:00,010 from the ground up it's gonna be you 1558 01:17:03,450 --> 01:17:01,180 know state-of-the-art tables 1559 01:17:05,910 --> 01:17:03,460 state-of-the-art equipment if we can get 1560 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:05,920 it that all comes down to the support we 1561 01:17:09,180 --> 01:17:07,810 get from you guys because like right now 1562 01:17:11,820 --> 01:17:09,190 we're getting the internet paid for and 1563 01:17:13,620 --> 01:17:11,830 our mix lower counts are our Skype 1564 01:17:17,370 --> 01:17:13,630 number so we can actually contact people 1565 01:17:20,100 --> 01:17:17,380 that's the main thing and it week after 1566 01:17:21,420 --> 01:17:20,110 week month after month we just want to 1567 01:17:24,300 --> 01:17:21,430 keep getting things better and better 1568 01:17:24,930 --> 01:17:24,310 and you know every single little bit 1569 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:24,940 helps 1570 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:27,130 now one thing I didn't mention on this 1571 01:17:31,470 --> 01:17:30,610 show is we actually have a B and chat 1572 01:17:34,050 --> 01:17:31,480 yes 1573 01:17:36,630 --> 01:17:34,060 you know the bunker the bunker is 1574 01:17:39,150 --> 01:17:36,640 Jimmy's coined term it's still going to 1575 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:39,160 be the den and I'm trying to see if I 1576 01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:40,690 could scrounge up some like a one of 1577 01:17:44,820 --> 01:17:42,610 those fake wall mounting fireplaces and 1578 01:17:46,530 --> 01:17:44,830 some wingback chairs so we can actually 1579 01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:46,540 sit down and drink scotch you know on a 1580 01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:49,120 on a nice little one of those little you 1581 01:17:53,550 --> 01:17:50,650 know antique tables that has the 1582 01:17:55,770 --> 01:17:53,560 pedestal with the legs with those like 1583 01:17:57,780 --> 01:17:55,780 little feet that'd be kind of cool for a 1584 01:17:59,640 --> 01:17:57,790 side table Denver would you come to 1585 01:18:03,150 --> 01:17:59,650 Ottawa to to come drink scotch if we 1586 01:18:06,180 --> 01:18:03,160 have that that table hell yeah 1587 01:18:06,810 --> 01:18:06,190 well you know you know in August we're 1588 01:18:11,970 --> 01:18:06,820 actually looking at 1589 01:18:14,700 --> 01:18:11,980 doing a a Charles Pugh Dale a crater 1590 01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:14,710 excursion but with with everything going 1591 01:18:18,510 --> 01:18:16,449 on with with the symposium it's been 1592 01:18:21,359 --> 01:18:18,520 like the the first thing from my mind 1593 01:18:24,149 --> 01:18:21,369 but we can get things organized in like 1594 01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:24,159 a week so let me just give me just a 1595 01:18:30,959 --> 01:18:29,770 moment here that sounds cool Denver I'm 1596 01:18:33,330 --> 01:18:30,969 gonna re add you to the convo in a 1597 01:18:42,060 --> 01:18:33,340 second okay now I'm getting ready to 1598 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:45,040 there we go Ames thank you very much 1599 01:18:50,230 --> 01:18:47,930 Denver I know that we gotta get you back 1600 01:18:53,850 --> 01:18:50,240 on the show at the end of the at the end 1601 01:18:53,860 --> 01:19:06,030 you just give me a second here Steve 1602 01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:09,690 you 1603 01:19:15,630 --> 01:19:15,150 I think it's actually calling me one 1604 01:19:18,370 --> 01:19:15,640 second 1605 01:19:19,660 --> 01:19:18,380 hell Steve 1606 01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:19,670 I've got like two calls coming in here 1607 01:19:28,300 --> 01:19:23,210 we go let's forget the sacrament that's 1608 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:28,310 also me finally ladies and gentlemen our 1609 01:19:32,850 --> 01:19:31,130 first guest and Steve thank you very 1610 01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:32,860 much again for joining us on the program 1611 01:19:40,570 --> 01:19:36,800 certainly it's again to give you a 1612 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:40,580 little bit of background we're gonna be 1613 01:19:43,990 --> 01:19:42,530 organizing a fundraiser for John Anthony 1614 01:19:45,939 --> 01:19:44,000 West he's been battling stage four 1615 01:19:47,890 --> 01:19:45,949 cancer for the last you know for the 1616 01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:47,900 last six months he's nearing the end of 1617 01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:49,610 his treatments but as you know American 1618 01:19:55,030 --> 01:19:52,610 medical costs can be quite high and to 1619 01:19:57,189 --> 01:19:55,040 be able to get him from Houston from the 1620 01:19:59,140 --> 01:19:57,199 brzezinski clinic where he's been having 1621 01:20:01,330 --> 01:19:59,150 his stage four cancer managed it's been 1622 01:20:03,910 --> 01:20:01,340 in regression like up up to over 60% 1623 01:20:07,890 --> 01:20:03,920 regression and beyond but he's been 1624 01:20:10,780 --> 01:20:07,900 battling pneumonia so it requires a 1625 01:20:13,030 --> 01:20:10,790 medically assisted transport back there 1626 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:13,040 which is fairly expensive so we're like 1627 01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:14,690 you know what we did it one time to get 1628 01:20:17,620 --> 01:20:16,130 the treatment we'll do it again and 1629 01:20:19,540 --> 01:20:17,630 that's been basically my focus for the 1630 01:20:22,060 --> 01:20:19,550 last week and I've been either graphic 1631 01:20:25,689 --> 01:20:22,070 designing or working on business or out 1632 01:20:27,669 --> 01:20:25,699 of town at the in-laws so if you know if 1633 01:20:29,890 --> 01:20:27,679 we had lost track if you lost track or 1634 01:20:32,709 --> 01:20:29,900 file lost track but please do forgive me 1635 01:20:35,260 --> 01:20:32,719 it's not the way we operate but so we 1636 01:20:38,709 --> 01:20:35,270 are very glad to have you on here and as 1637 01:20:41,290 --> 01:20:38,719 our first guest ever it is an honor to 1638 01:20:42,820 --> 01:20:41,300 have you back in the den of lore and my 1639 01:20:45,580 --> 01:20:42,830 goodness it is still a beautiful day 1640 01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:45,590 where you are I am in San Pedro 1641 01:20:51,850 --> 01:20:50,449 California which is nice and we had a 1642 01:20:53,770 --> 01:20:51,860 beautiful day absolutely gorgeous day 1643 01:20:59,200 --> 01:20:53,780 I'm gonna set up a little bit higher 1644 01:21:02,800 --> 01:20:59,210 here and I'm get some birds tweeting 1645 01:21:06,729 --> 01:21:02,810 here so it's not a nice bat nice setting 1646 01:21:09,879 --> 01:21:06,739 to have a little chat and I just gave a 1647 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:09,889 little bit of a tour to our entire 1648 01:21:13,149 --> 01:21:11,690 audience while we were getting things 1649 01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:13,159 set up and again Denver thank you very 1650 01:21:18,550 --> 01:21:14,449 much for your patience and for helping 1651 01:21:21,790 --> 01:21:18,560 to keep the conversation rolling and I 1652 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:21,800 am just going to let's see if I can get 1653 01:21:25,469 --> 01:21:23,530 you on 1654 01:21:29,459 --> 01:21:25,479 let's see how this one goes - let's 1655 01:21:32,009 --> 01:21:29,469 Skype it left screen and I'm going to 1656 01:21:39,629 --> 01:21:32,019 take this fantastic promo shot of you 1657 01:21:41,629 --> 01:21:39,639 off and there we go so again thank you 1658 01:21:43,459 --> 01:21:41,639 very much for joining I know that's 1659 01:21:48,959 --> 01:21:43,469 you've been doing the rounds on 1660 01:21:50,629 --> 01:21:48,969 conferences on numerous podcasts pretty 1661 01:21:53,850 --> 01:21:50,639 much everybody talking about disclosure 1662 01:21:56,580 --> 01:21:53,860 2017 I didn't I know that's your 1663 01:21:58,859 --> 01:21:56,590 associate with rigueur Scioscia talk to 1664 01:22:01,140 --> 01:21:58,869 Greer who put out his new movie recently 1665 01:22:03,359 --> 01:22:01,150 but disclosed which is based around 1666 01:22:06,450 --> 01:22:03,369 disclosure came out and the idea has 1667 01:22:08,669 --> 01:22:06,460 been gaining momentum again and I don't 1668 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:08,679 think it's ever gone away which is for 1669 01:22:14,370 --> 01:22:11,530 the focus to get off of you know the 1670 01:22:16,109 --> 01:22:14,380 corruption and to get off of the all of 1671 01:22:18,270 --> 01:22:16,119 the hoopla and circus that's going on in 1672 01:22:21,359 --> 01:22:18,280 DC and getting to talk about the big 1673 01:22:22,890 --> 01:22:21,369 thing that has that everyone seems to 1674 01:22:24,629 --> 01:22:22,900 know or at least seems to have evidence 1675 01:22:26,399 --> 01:22:24,639 of of their own whether through their 1676 01:22:29,009 --> 01:22:26,409 own experiences or they know somebody 1677 01:22:30,839 --> 01:22:29,019 who's had one which is that UFO the UFO 1678 01:22:34,830 --> 01:22:30,849 phenomena is real the government has had 1679 01:22:37,049 --> 01:22:34,840 evidence of it for four decades and it 1680 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:37,059 is time for the truth and Barbeau to end 1681 01:22:44,129 --> 01:22:40,530 and our last discussion was based around 1682 01:22:45,689 --> 01:22:44,139 the Podesta connection if Hillary had 1683 01:22:48,149 --> 01:22:45,699 gotten in and I know that you and I had 1684 01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:48,159 discussed the possibility that Trump 1685 01:22:52,049 --> 01:22:49,690 could actually win the election and I 1686 01:22:54,540 --> 01:22:52,059 think at that time I said our luck is 1687 01:22:58,109 --> 01:22:54,550 that bad it will happen even though we 1688 01:23:02,250 --> 01:22:58,119 don't want it to and here we are that's 1689 01:23:03,959 --> 01:23:02,260 right so how is the the last a used up 1690 01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:03,969 to October November December January 1691 01:23:09,509 --> 01:23:07,570 February March April May and June so the 1692 01:23:12,239 --> 01:23:09,519 last nine months out was the last nine 1693 01:23:15,959 --> 01:23:12,249 months Pete excuse me how'd the net last 1694 01:23:19,259 --> 01:23:15,969 nine months transpired what's what's 1695 01:23:21,750 --> 01:23:19,269 been me the journey so far now the last 1696 01:23:25,169 --> 01:23:21,760 nine months have not been fun for 1697 01:23:27,810 --> 01:23:25,179 anybody the country is in a level of 1698 01:23:30,569 --> 01:23:27,820 political chaos never seen before in the 1699 01:23:34,229 --> 01:23:30,579 modern era maybe it was this chaotic 1700 01:23:35,879 --> 01:23:34,239 back in the 1800s or early 1890s who 1701 01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:35,889 knows but in a modern era which really 1702 01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:37,090 is them but most 1703 01:23:40,649 --> 01:23:38,290 Nerra given that we have nuclear weapons 1704 01:23:42,570 --> 01:23:40,659 now and a thousand other ways to destroy 1705 01:23:44,939 --> 01:23:42,580 ourselves this is the worst political 1706 01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:44,949 chaos and I've been through I was i 1707 01:23:48,810 --> 01:23:46,570 watch the McCarthy hearings as a kid I 1708 01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:48,820 was through lived in was in Washington 1709 01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:51,810 during the war Watergate hearings the 1710 01:23:56,879 --> 01:23:54,130 white Watergate hearings the Monica 1711 01:24:00,330 --> 01:23:56,889 Lewinsky scandal you name it and this is 1712 01:24:03,260 --> 01:24:00,340 worse than all of them frankly the fact 1713 01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:03,270 is is that the PRG was successful in 1714 01:24:09,180 --> 01:24:07,090 forcing so much media pressure on the 1715 01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:09,190 Clinton campaign starting in January of 1716 01:24:15,330 --> 01:24:12,730 2015 that between that time and June the 1717 01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:15,340 second of 2016 the Clinton team at one 1718 01:24:21,570 --> 01:24:17,650 point or another it made 12 statements 1719 01:24:24,209 --> 01:24:21,580 interviews or printed printed interviews 1720 01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:24,219 or television interviews regarding the 1721 01:24:27,629 --> 01:24:26,170 extra-terrestrial issue made it quite 1722 01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:27,639 clear they were serious about it she was 1723 01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:29,170 going to investigate it and the 1724 01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:30,730 Rockefeller initiative connection to the 1725 01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:32,170 Clintons was in print for the first time 1726 01:24:37,550 --> 01:24:34,690 and their links to it the Rockefeller 1727 01:24:40,050 --> 01:24:37,560 initiative documents were up etc etc and 1728 01:24:42,330 --> 01:24:40,060 the game that they were playing was that 1729 01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:42,340 they they refused to answer reporters 1730 01:24:45,899 --> 01:24:43,690 questions they did not return their 1731 01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:45,909 calls they stonewalled them but they 1732 01:24:49,140 --> 01:24:47,170 knew that they weren't going to go away 1733 01:24:50,910 --> 01:24:49,150 and they knew that the time was running 1734 01:24:53,189 --> 01:24:50,920 out on the truth embargo and he could 1735 01:24:55,350 --> 01:24:53,199 blow and as a result they wanted-- they 1736 01:24:57,720 --> 01:24:55,360 didn't they didn't want to cause them to 1737 01:24:59,250 --> 01:24:57,730 blow up because if they did Barack Obama 1738 01:25:01,979 --> 01:24:59,260 would have been the disclosure president 1739 01:25:04,350 --> 01:25:01,989 not her but they couldn't just be silent 1740 01:25:05,729 --> 01:25:04,360 so they left them bread calms 12 12 1741 01:25:08,250 --> 01:25:05,739 occasions where they addressed the issue 1742 01:25:10,950 --> 01:25:08,260 publicly got huge generated hundreds of 1743 01:25:12,780 --> 01:25:10,960 articles but because nothing was asked 1744 01:25:16,020 --> 01:25:12,790 about it in the debates of her any of 1745 01:25:17,910 --> 01:25:16,030 the other 27 candidates in 36 debates 1746 01:25:20,669 --> 01:25:17,920 and forums because the television news 1747 01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:20,679 journalists are the most compromised in 1748 01:25:25,859 --> 01:25:23,650 American media right now you know if 1749 01:25:28,050 --> 01:25:25,869 there's something really really really 1750 01:25:28,530 --> 01:25:28,060 serious and important that people need 1751 01:25:31,709 --> 01:25:28,540 to know 1752 01:25:33,629 --> 01:25:31,719 don't don't expect them to tell you so 1753 01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:33,639 they moderated all the debates and 1754 01:25:37,890 --> 01:25:35,440 forums they control the questions and 1755 01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:37,900 ask never ask question so on June the 1756 01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:39,520 2nd they figured they were pretty much 1757 01:25:43,379 --> 01:25:41,199 home free and they would simply make it 1758 01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:43,389 to the election win the election then 1759 01:25:46,109 --> 01:25:44,530 all I had to do was hold off the media 1760 01:25:48,450 --> 01:25:46,119 for 70 days until she got in the white 1761 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:48,460 house and then disclosure could take 1762 01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:50,530 place that she would she would bring it 1763 01:25:53,340 --> 01:25:51,130 up she would 1764 01:25:54,990 --> 01:25:53,350 some questions and the media storm would 1765 01:25:57,510 --> 01:25:55,000 force the Pentagon to come to the White 1766 01:26:00,629 --> 01:25:57,520 House and cut a deal but she didn't win 1767 01:26:02,820 --> 01:26:00,639 and I told Podesta in emails that if she 1768 01:26:05,129 --> 01:26:02,830 didn't engage this issue she would win I 1769 01:26:07,260 --> 01:26:05,139 said it in an interview that's on tape 1770 01:26:10,350 --> 01:26:07,270 which I'll get out eventually in August 1771 01:26:11,910 --> 01:26:10,360 of 2014 and in Toronto that if she 1772 01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:11,920 didn't engage this issue and speak the 1773 01:26:16,140 --> 01:26:14,320 truth about it she wouldn't win and she 1774 01:26:18,860 --> 01:26:16,150 didn't and when she lost that election 1775 01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:18,870 the entire two-year political initiative 1776 01:26:22,860 --> 01:26:21,610 and every all the media contacts and 1777 01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:22,870 everything else was put in complete 1778 01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:25,690 suspension I'm in a working source 1779 01:26:29,250 --> 01:26:27,489 relationship with 40 some reporters two 1780 01:26:30,930 --> 01:26:29,260 Pulitzer Prize winners they wrote 1781 01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:30,940 articles dozens and dozens of articles 1782 01:26:37,590 --> 01:26:35,050 but they're not engaging it now because 1783 01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:37,600 there's no hook she went off to the New 1784 01:26:42,689 --> 01:26:39,690 York woods wandering around walking dogs 1785 01:26:45,300 --> 01:26:42,699 hasn't been seen much more importantly 1786 01:26:47,580 --> 01:26:45,310 the dilemma she faces is that if she 1787 01:26:49,890 --> 01:26:47,590 would have engaged the issue now or all 1788 01:26:52,229 --> 01:26:49,900 the way back to November of last year or 1789 01:26:54,300 --> 01:26:52,239 December she could create that media 1790 01:26:55,709 --> 01:26:54,310 storm I mean just yet they have things 1791 01:26:58,410 --> 01:26:55,719 they can say that the media would go 1792 01:27:00,419 --> 01:26:58,420 nuts over but if she did and force 1793 01:27:02,550 --> 01:27:00,429 disclosure guess what Donald Trump would 1794 01:27:04,709 --> 01:27:02,560 be the disclosure president and that's 1795 01:27:05,879 --> 01:27:04,719 definitely not something on her or 1796 01:27:07,919 --> 01:27:05,889 husband's wish list 1797 01:27:09,780 --> 01:27:07,929 so she should step back the media 1798 01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:09,790 doesn't have a hook and the country's in 1799 01:27:15,300 --> 01:27:12,850 chaos and funding for PRG completely 1800 01:27:16,830 --> 01:27:15,310 dried up well I mean there's a little 1801 01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:16,840 bit of money raised but nothing like 1802 01:27:23,189 --> 01:27:20,650 before and so the political advocacy is 1803 01:27:26,970 --> 01:27:23,199 under great pressure I've shifted to 1804 01:27:32,220 --> 01:27:26,980 international contacts and that's where 1805 01:27:33,899 --> 01:27:32,230 we are right now and how was your again 1806 01:27:35,790 --> 01:27:33,909 you talked to international contacts so 1807 01:27:39,870 --> 01:27:35,800 you're dealing with let's say like the 1808 01:27:41,700 --> 01:27:39,880 UK or Canada or other allies or you're 1809 01:27:43,890 --> 01:27:41,710 dealing specifically with more than 1810 01:27:47,250 --> 01:27:43,900 journalists I'd to try it excuse me to 1811 01:27:48,780 --> 01:27:47,260 make it more known in the news there's 1812 01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:48,790 several things going on first on making 1813 01:27:52,470 --> 01:27:50,650 contacts with journalists I've got 1814 01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:52,480 foreign journalists contacts but I went 1815 01:27:57,450 --> 01:27:54,610 to London in order to meet with him 1816 01:28:03,360 --> 01:27:57,460 directly so I went to London back in 1817 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:03,370 April May and I had I had meetings there 1818 01:28:07,890 --> 01:28:05,050 generated several articles 1819 01:28:10,140 --> 01:28:07,900 I also met with a an individual who 1820 01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:10,150 belongs with her exclusive military club 1821 01:28:17,250 --> 01:28:15,130 there in London and I learned in those 1822 01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:17,260 meetings that there are number of people 1823 01:28:22,919 --> 01:28:19,530 in the memo day the Ministry of Defence 1824 01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:22,929 currently in it and and others retired 1825 01:28:26,669 --> 01:28:25,570 that want disclosure they know the et 1826 01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:26,679 presence is true they'd like to have 1827 01:28:29,939 --> 01:28:28,690 disclosure they can't trigger it but 1828 01:28:33,060 --> 01:28:29,949 they're supportive and that's good to 1829 01:28:34,260 --> 01:28:33,070 know I met with a very very important 1830 01:28:35,669 --> 01:28:34,270 author by the name of Nick cook who 1831 01:28:38,370 --> 01:28:35,679 wrote a very important book called the 1832 01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:38,380 hunt for zero point and then I went to 1833 01:28:42,629 --> 01:28:41,170 Moscow and what happened in Moscow which 1834 01:28:45,689 --> 01:28:42,639 I'm not going to be able to get into 1835 01:28:48,229 --> 01:28:45,699 much more detail until later is that I 1836 01:28:51,660 --> 01:28:48,239 gave an hour a half interview to a major 1837 01:28:53,609 --> 01:28:51,670 national network that interview will 1838 01:28:54,839 --> 01:28:53,619 soon be broadcast in in Russian it 1839 01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:54,849 should have been broadcast in May but 1840 01:29:00,390 --> 01:28:56,530 they decided to open their new season 1841 01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:00,400 with it and when it's broadcast I will 1842 01:29:05,129 --> 01:29:03,010 provide the link to that interview but 1843 01:29:07,470 --> 01:29:05,139 it's in Russian but I'm supposed to get 1844 01:29:09,209 --> 01:29:07,480 most of all of the English versions of 1845 01:29:11,399 --> 01:29:09,219 the interview which I will then make 1846 01:29:13,049 --> 01:29:11,409 available in the United States and UK 1847 01:29:14,609 --> 01:29:13,059 and I expect it's going to generate some 1848 01:29:17,310 --> 01:29:14,619 heat some some articles and 1849 01:29:19,770 --> 01:29:17,320 what-have-you I also met while in Moscow 1850 01:29:21,540 --> 01:29:19,780 for a week six groups was set up by one 1851 01:29:22,979 --> 01:29:21,550 of my colleagues six groups of 1852 01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:22,989 individuals running from two ins and 1853 01:29:28,350 --> 01:29:26,770 five people to discuss their engagement 1854 01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:28,360 of et issue right now all of these 1855 01:29:34,319 --> 01:29:32,770 groups had members or there was members 1856 01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:34,329 of these grill there were members in 1857 01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:35,530 every one of the groups that had 1858 01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:37,210 formerly worked with the Soviet military 1859 01:29:41,850 --> 01:29:39,280 or Russian military or Soviet Russian 1860 01:29:43,740 --> 01:29:41,860 intelligence dealing with the et issue 1861 01:29:44,819 --> 01:29:43,750 which the government of Russian 1862 01:29:47,910 --> 01:29:44,829 government Soviet government has been 1863 01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:47,920 dealing with forever and now they're 1864 01:29:51,689 --> 01:29:49,449 probably you know dealing with it 1865 01:29:53,100 --> 01:29:51,699 privately and they gave it you know 1866 01:29:54,149 --> 01:29:53,110 their sense of how they handle it what 1867 01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:54,159 they're thinking about it 1868 01:29:58,950 --> 01:29:56,650 I told them who I was is mostly a get to 1869 01:30:00,810 --> 01:29:58,960 know is mostly a sizing each other up 1870 01:30:03,149 --> 01:30:00,820 very difficult to do any serious 1871 01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:03,159 discussions in in and with a translator 1872 01:30:08,490 --> 01:30:07,210 a one translator but it was fine and one 1873 01:30:10,140 --> 01:30:08,500 of the reasons I took those meetings as 1874 01:30:12,270 --> 01:30:10,150 I knew that if I took him that the 1875 01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:12,280 vitomir Putin would know that I would 1876 01:30:17,370 --> 01:30:15,489 had been in town and I wanted that to 1877 01:30:18,820 --> 01:30:17,380 happen as well I'm leaving for London 1878 01:30:21,250 --> 01:30:18,830 again on August 1879 01:30:24,460 --> 01:30:21,260 hmmm if I have to go back to Moscow I 1880 01:30:26,530 --> 01:30:24,470 will and I'll certainly I'm gonna think 1881 01:30:27,730 --> 01:30:26,540 about or make an attempt to maybe see 1882 01:30:29,440 --> 01:30:27,740 what kind of contacts I can get with 1883 01:30:32,530 --> 01:30:29,450 other governments in Europe particularly 1884 01:30:35,950 --> 01:30:32,540 France and Germany I'm speaking in 1885 01:30:38,610 --> 01:30:35,960 Ireland in on around August the 9th or 1886 01:30:40,810 --> 01:30:38,620 so 10th somewhere around there to a 1887 01:30:42,130 --> 01:30:40,820 involved in a very large political 1888 01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:42,140 events going on there kind of a festival 1889 01:30:48,550 --> 01:30:46,250 political festival event so that's where 1890 01:30:51,010 --> 01:30:48,560 we're going right now while I wait to 1891 01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:51,020 see when the chaos in the United States 1892 01:30:59,950 --> 01:30:55,850 finally settles down so that's the 1893 01:31:01,150 --> 01:30:59,960 answer to your question and again the 1894 01:31:03,340 --> 01:31:01,160 big difference from from the last time 1895 01:31:05,620 --> 01:31:03,350 you're honest we take a lot of questions 1896 01:31:08,290 --> 01:31:05,630 a try make it as interactive as possible 1897 01:31:11,050 --> 01:31:08,300 from the from the YouTube chat and sure 1898 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:11,060 with one of the individuals in their 1899 01:31:16,060 --> 01:31:13,610 Denver Michael's he was odd with us 1900 01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:16,070 discussing you know disclosure and all 1901 01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:17,810 that just pretty much everything UFO 1902 01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:20,210 aliens beforehand very very skeptical 1903 01:31:24,700 --> 01:31:22,250 mind just because he's very rational but 1904 01:31:27,460 --> 01:31:24,710 he he has a very wide interest in 1905 01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:27,470 everything paranormal and strange so his 1906 01:31:34,780 --> 01:31:31,810 thing is he doesn't not understand that 1907 01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:34,790 why people would necessarily believe 1908 01:31:38,500 --> 01:31:37,010 that Hillary would disclose or the 1909 01:31:40,870 --> 01:31:38,510 Podesta would have Hillary disclose 1910 01:31:42,100 --> 01:31:40,880 based on the fact that there's a certain 1911 01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:42,110 perception that she would say anything 1912 01:31:47,620 --> 01:31:44,930 to get elected what would what would you 1913 01:31:49,300 --> 01:31:47,630 say to somebody who has that's you know 1914 01:31:52,450 --> 01:31:49,310 who has that belief for them or has that 1915 01:31:54,670 --> 01:31:52,460 position well the fact is that these 1916 01:31:56,830 --> 01:31:54,680 days the politicians will say anything 1917 01:31:59,410 --> 01:31:56,840 to get elected all of them or they won't 1918 01:32:01,150 --> 01:31:59,420 say something to get elected in other 1919 01:32:04,330 --> 01:32:01,160 words their basic job is to get elected 1920 01:32:06,700 --> 01:32:04,340 our needs are and historical needs are 1921 01:32:08,860 --> 01:32:06,710 secondary that of course is a sign of 1922 01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:08,870 political decay and institutional 1923 01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:13,250 dysfunction the reality the reason that 1924 01:32:18,820 --> 01:32:16,610 Clinton was virtually in a position 1925 01:32:22,090 --> 01:32:18,830 where she would haven't had to been 1926 01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:22,100 forced to discuss it before she was 1927 01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:24,770 ready right he's because of the 1928 01:32:29,470 --> 01:32:27,530 Rockefeller initiative now let me 1929 01:32:31,630 --> 01:32:29,480 quickly backtrack here let me just lay a 1930 01:32:32,260 --> 01:32:31,640 quick framework your listeners viewers 1931 01:32:33,460 --> 01:32:32,270 need 1932 01:32:35,890 --> 01:32:33,470 understand us first there is an 1933 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:35,900 extraterrestrial presence period its 1934 01:32:40,690 --> 01:32:37,610 fact the government's known about it 1935 01:32:43,420 --> 01:32:40,700 since the late 1940s and maybe even the 1936 01:32:44,860 --> 01:32:43,430 early 1940s the government chose to 1937 01:32:46,660 --> 01:32:44,870 embargo this from the American people 1938 01:32:50,380 --> 01:32:46,670 that embargo and policy was put together 1939 01:32:53,830 --> 01:32:50,390 between 1947 1953 the reason that 1940 01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:53,840 embargo is still around is because while 1941 01:32:59,230 --> 01:32:55,850 I believe that the decision to contain 1942 01:33:02,380 --> 01:32:59,240 this was was was a an honest decision 1943 01:33:04,750 --> 01:33:02,390 based upon the circumstances of 1947 48 1944 01:33:06,550 --> 01:33:04,760 49 given what they faced which was 1945 01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:06,560 essentially a third war they assumed was 1946 01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:09,170 coming would be nuclear it turned into a 1947 01:33:14,190 --> 01:33:11,210 cold war and that cold war became 1948 01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:14,200 incredibly complicated and dangerous 1949 01:33:18,700 --> 01:33:16,970 eventually involving 70 to 80 thousand 1950 01:33:20,680 --> 01:33:18,710 nuclear weapons thousands of which were 1951 01:33:22,930 --> 01:33:20,690 targeted on an instantaneous basis and 1952 01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:22,940 so until that Cold War was over which 1953 01:33:26,770 --> 01:33:24,170 they didn't realize was going to last 1954 01:33:27,970 --> 01:33:26,780 that long the alien thing et thing had 1955 01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:27,980 to be embargo period 1956 01:33:31,300 --> 01:33:29,570 all right allies went along with it 1957 01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:31,310 Russia and China went went along with it 1958 01:33:35,500 --> 01:33:33,530 for their own reasons so by the time the 1959 01:33:36,550 --> 01:33:35,510 cold war ends in 91 the cold that the 1960 01:33:40,770 --> 01:33:36,560 truth embargo was fully 1961 01:33:44,410 --> 01:33:40,780 institutionalized based upon 44 1962 01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:44,420 basically 44 years of propaganda lies 1963 01:33:48,820 --> 01:33:46,850 misdirection subversion you name it 1964 01:33:52,660 --> 01:33:48,830 everything was done to keep this under 1965 01:33:56,350 --> 01:33:52,670 control and therefore unpacking that box 1966 01:33:58,330 --> 01:33:56,360 was not going to be easy and in general 1967 01:34:00,820 --> 01:33:58,340 but then the circumstances of the time 1968 01:34:03,250 --> 01:34:00,830 when the Cold War ended complicated 1969 01:34:04,900 --> 01:34:03,260 taking any initial action particularly 1970 01:34:06,670 --> 01:34:04,910 the Gulf War that was occurring at the 1971 01:34:06,940 --> 01:34:06,680 time Soviet Union fighting came to an 1972 01:34:09,190 --> 01:34:06,950 end 1973 01:34:11,230 --> 01:34:09,200 George Bush aged up I think George W 1974 01:34:12,940 --> 01:34:11,240 Bush though was prepared to disclose in 1975 01:34:16,150 --> 01:34:12,950 his second term but he didn't get a 1976 01:34:20,140 --> 01:34:16,160 second term and thus the politics post 1977 01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:20,150 91 became very complicated the Clinton 1978 01:34:23,530 --> 01:34:22,250 administration from a national security 1979 01:34:25,510 --> 01:34:23,540 point was at a very complicated 1980 01:34:27,850 --> 01:34:25,520 situation for them they didn't want him 1981 01:34:30,550 --> 01:34:27,860 to have much a historical impact and 1982 01:34:32,440 --> 01:34:30,560 they didn't want him to to be making any 1983 01:34:33,910 --> 01:34:32,450 major war decisions which was good 1984 01:34:36,070 --> 01:34:33,920 because we didn't have much war during 1985 01:34:38,650 --> 01:34:36,080 those eight years and unfortunately in 1986 01:34:41,230 --> 01:34:38,660 America not having war is a bad thing 1987 01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:41,240 all right if you were if you were at the 1988 01:34:46,250 --> 01:34:44,330 top the political food chain and in the 1989 01:34:48,890 --> 01:34:46,260 military intelligence complex 1990 01:34:50,990 --> 01:34:48,900 war you need war you lots of it and we 1991 01:34:52,310 --> 01:34:51,000 weren't getting it but that's fine I'm 1992 01:34:57,730 --> 01:34:52,320 glad we didn't have any war when you get 1993 01:35:02,630 --> 01:34:57,740 any disclosure either so 24 years go by 1994 01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:02,640 as we approach the 2016 campaign in the 1995 01:35:08,060 --> 01:35:04,290 beginning of that came Pam pain which 1996 01:35:10,190 --> 01:35:08,070 was an early night 2015 and that the the 1997 01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:10,200 we still haven't gotten disclosure but 1998 01:35:13,820 --> 01:35:11,850 what we did get was the Rockefeller 1999 01:35:14,990 --> 01:35:13,830 initiative and the Rockefeller 2000 01:35:17,150 --> 01:35:15,000 initiative was the attempt by 2001 01:35:18,670 --> 01:35:17,160 Rockefeller Laurance Rockefeller to get 2002 01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:18,680 disclosure to end the truth embargo 2003 01:35:24,620 --> 01:35:22,170 under the Clinton administration in 1993 2004 01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:24,630 and he approached the administration and 2005 01:35:27,770 --> 01:35:25,890 they engaged him 2006 01:35:29,030 --> 01:35:27,780 it went on for three years and we know 2007 01:35:30,770 --> 01:35:29,040 about it because we have a thousand 2008 01:35:32,630 --> 01:35:30,780 pages of documents confirming it there 2009 01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:32,640 were obtained through foi a those 2010 01:35:38,420 --> 01:35:34,890 documents were provided the media to the 2011 01:35:40,850 --> 01:35:38,430 media as early as 2001 so the mainstream 2012 01:35:42,410 --> 01:35:40,860 media was provided the opportunity to 2013 01:35:43,610 --> 01:35:42,420 engage the Rockefeller initiative and 2014 01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:43,620 its connection to the Clinton 2015 01:35:49,490 --> 01:35:46,170 administration and 2001 they chose not 2016 01:35:54,460 --> 01:35:49,500 to and the reason that they finally were 2017 01:35:57,470 --> 01:35:54,470 brought into the game in 2015 early 2015 2018 01:36:00,380 --> 01:35:57,480 was because one Clinton chose to run a 2019 01:36:04,550 --> 01:36:00,390 second time the issue had advanced 2020 01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:04,560 substantially between 1990 2001 rather 2021 01:36:10,820 --> 01:36:08,370 in 2015 and the rock the Citizen hearing 2022 01:36:14,030 --> 01:36:10,830 on disclosure was a huge success in 2023 01:36:15,890 --> 01:36:14,040 Washington DC in 2013 when paradigm 2024 01:36:18,080 --> 01:36:15,900 research group was able to bring in 42 2025 01:36:19,970 --> 01:36:18,090 witnesses to testify to six former 2026 01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:19,980 members of the US Congress at the 2027 01:36:23,690 --> 01:36:21,810 National Press Club for five days and 2028 01:36:26,090 --> 01:36:23,700 thirty hours and then the political 2029 01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:26,100 initiative was launched by when the 2030 01:36:30,170 --> 01:36:27,210 initial launch and the political 2031 01:36:31,940 --> 01:36:30,180 initiative was in November of 2014 when 2032 01:36:34,070 --> 01:36:31,950 a record of that entire 30 hours of 2033 01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:34,080 testimony a video record was sent to the 2034 01:36:37,730 --> 01:36:35,970 entire House and Senate that record 2035 01:36:40,190 --> 01:36:37,740 included two hours of testimony about 2036 01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:40,200 the Rockefeller initiative and then I 2037 01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:42,810 got into town I started taking meetings 2038 01:36:45,740 --> 01:36:44,250 on the hill and my public relations 2039 01:36:48,590 --> 01:36:45,750 person started approaching the media and 2040 01:36:53,140 --> 01:36:48,600 so we brought that story finally into 2041 01:36:55,940 --> 01:36:53,150 play and before but by June a second of 2042 01:36:58,550 --> 01:36:55,950 2016 when the Clintons finally felt they 2043 01:37:00,020 --> 01:36:58,560 were home free we generated three to 2044 01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:00,030 four hundred articles 2045 01:37:04,250 --> 01:37:02,010 in mainstream press around the world 2046 01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:04,260 just in and that's an English language 2047 01:37:09,110 --> 01:37:07,170 many more scores more if not a hundreds 2048 01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:09,120 of more and foreign language press in 2049 01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:10,770 which the Clinton connection to the et 2050 01:37:15,140 --> 01:37:12,810 issue the Rockefeller initiative was 2051 01:37:16,670 --> 01:37:15,150 overall mentioned referred to and of 2052 01:37:18,740 --> 01:37:16,680 course on the internet links were made 2053 01:37:20,300 --> 01:37:18,750 to the documents to the interviews that 2054 01:37:23,660 --> 01:37:20,310 they were taking and so forth that the 2055 01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:23,670 issue was completely in play finally and 2056 01:37:28,300 --> 01:37:25,530 we were on our way to our disclosure 2057 01:37:31,730 --> 01:37:28,310 either under Obama or under Clinton 2058 01:37:34,490 --> 01:37:31,740 administration but the television media 2059 01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:34,500 did not step up to the plate the debates 2060 01:37:39,740 --> 01:37:37,170 were et free and she thought she could 2061 01:37:44,090 --> 01:37:39,750 make it to the White House and then 2062 01:37:45,860 --> 01:37:44,100 disclose as she saw fit and of course 2063 01:37:47,150 --> 01:37:45,870 achieved the legacy of being a 2064 01:37:49,750 --> 01:37:47,160 disclosure president one of the great 2065 01:37:52,550 --> 01:37:49,760 political as legacies of all time and 2066 01:37:54,530 --> 01:37:52,560 that's the framework for all of this and 2067 01:37:58,220 --> 01:37:54,540 that is the answer to your friends 2068 01:38:00,260 --> 01:37:58,230 question the the reason that she was 2069 01:38:02,540 --> 01:38:00,270 under great pressure and her entire 2070 01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:02,550 mentor tire team was under pressure with 2071 01:38:07,430 --> 01:38:04,530 PRG finally triggered a media storm a 2072 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:07,440 mild storm not a full frenzy based on 2073 01:38:10,070 --> 01:38:08,970 the Rockefeller initiative documents the 2074 01:38:12,650 --> 01:38:10,080 results of the Citizen hearing on 2075 01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:12,660 disclosure and and of course the 2076 01:38:15,950 --> 01:38:13,890 Clintons knew everything I was doing 2077 01:38:18,860 --> 01:38:15,960 they knew why I was doing it they knew 2078 01:38:22,550 --> 01:38:18,870 what was happening they knew all of the 2079 01:38:23,510 --> 01:38:22,560 angles and they knew that this was 2080 01:38:25,490 --> 01:38:23,520 something they were gonna have to 2081 01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:25,500 confront they just wanted to confront it 2082 01:38:30,440 --> 01:38:27,810 as president not as candidate Clinton 2083 01:38:33,380 --> 01:38:30,450 and of course then things got really 2084 01:38:37,700 --> 01:38:33,390 strange when the hacking a events 2085 01:38:41,900 --> 01:38:37,710 developed and they were there what did 2086 01:38:46,150 --> 01:38:41,910 already pretty much cast the die in in 2087 01:38:49,730 --> 01:38:46,160 June and then the hacking begins and 2088 01:38:51,830 --> 01:38:49,740 Podesta documents get released fifty 2089 01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:51,840 thousand of them released just prior to 2090 01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:53,370 the election in those days leading up to 2091 01:38:57,230 --> 01:38:56,010 the election about ten days or so tent 2092 01:38:59,330 --> 01:38:57,240 will be releasing him a two to five 2093 01:39:00,950 --> 01:38:59,340 thousand a day and guess what there were 2094 01:39:03,380 --> 01:39:00,960 something like ninety five documents in 2095 01:39:05,750 --> 01:39:03,390 females in the Podesta files relating to 2096 01:39:07,340 --> 01:39:05,760 the et issue showing that they were 2097 01:39:08,720 --> 01:39:07,350 discussing it they were talking to Tom 2098 01:39:10,250 --> 01:39:08,730 DeLonge about it they gave an interview 2099 01:39:12,350 --> 01:39:10,260 to talk too long my emails from there 2100 01:39:13,850 --> 01:39:12,360 and and that just brought the issue out 2101 01:39:16,100 --> 01:39:13,860 again but since they had all 2102 01:39:17,959 --> 01:39:16,110 gone silent as of June the second they 2103 01:39:19,700 --> 01:39:17,969 couldn't suddenly engage the issue a 2104 01:39:21,979 --> 01:39:19,710 meaning oh yeah by the way let's talk 2105 01:39:23,570 --> 01:39:21,989 about that no they figured no word it's 2106 01:39:25,459 --> 01:39:23,580 too close we can't risk it blah blah 2107 01:39:27,379 --> 01:39:25,469 blah everything the Clinton team has 2108 01:39:30,169 --> 01:39:27,389 done has in the service of her getting 2109 01:39:31,820 --> 01:39:30,179 elected I assure you that nothing that 2110 01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:31,830 was of great importance to the American 2111 01:39:36,470 --> 01:39:34,170 people that could even remotely a threat 2112 01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:36,480 threaten her March the White House was 2113 01:39:45,500 --> 01:39:39,330 given consideration that kind of utterly 2114 01:39:48,530 --> 01:39:45,510 self-serving completely but and I know 2115 01:39:50,540 --> 01:39:48,540 how to describe it totally political 2116 01:39:52,760 --> 01:39:50,550 totally self thering approach to 2117 01:39:54,530 --> 01:39:52,770 politics is exactly what the American 2118 01:39:56,270 --> 01:39:54,540 people are rejecting or trying to reject 2119 01:39:59,390 --> 01:39:56,280 and so essentially they shot themselves 2120 01:40:01,070 --> 01:39:59,400 in a foot and lost the election what can 2121 01:40:02,629 --> 01:40:01,080 I say I sent an email after the election 2122 01:40:05,300 --> 01:40:02,639 to John Podesta just saying how 2123 01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:05,310 disgusted I was with the way they handle 2124 01:40:09,109 --> 01:40:07,050 that campaign the mistakes they made the 2125 01:40:11,419 --> 01:40:09,119 refusal to speak truth to power etc etc 2126 01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:11,429 etc that's the only thing I could do 2127 01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:13,050 that's the best I could do you know 2128 01:40:17,629 --> 01:40:15,210 disgustingly yours I signed it 2129 01:40:19,250 --> 01:40:17,639 I assure you that election and John 2130 01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:19,260 Podesta it's conduct of an election and 2131 01:40:22,820 --> 01:40:21,210 her conduct is going to go down in 2132 01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:22,830 history is one of the greatest mistakes 2133 01:40:28,010 --> 01:40:25,650 ever made by a political candidate for 2134 01:40:30,530 --> 01:40:28,020 the presidency of the United States now 2135 01:40:32,750 --> 01:40:30,540 the the big idea that a lot of people 2136 01:40:35,390 --> 01:40:32,760 have had at least with our own 2137 01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:35,400 discussions here in chat is how can 2138 01:40:44,209 --> 01:40:40,530 somebody trust the rock like a 2139 01:40:46,399 --> 01:40:44,219 rockefeller when the the meme as it were 2140 01:40:48,770 --> 01:40:46,409 is that there are used to and I'll use 2141 01:40:54,020 --> 01:40:48,780 the term that that one cheddar used that 2142 01:40:58,550 --> 01:40:54,030 they're notorious for bad [\h__\h] how did 2143 01:41:00,709 --> 01:40:58,560 one out of a larger group of people who 2144 01:41:02,270 --> 01:41:00,719 may not necessarily have done well by 2145 01:41:04,939 --> 01:41:02,280 the American people themselves even if 2146 01:41:06,950 --> 01:41:04,949 they employed a bunch of them you know 2147 01:41:10,370 --> 01:41:06,960 there's a bad perception there how does 2148 01:41:13,310 --> 01:41:10,380 that translate into one Rockefeller 2149 01:41:15,770 --> 01:41:13,320 wanting to actually have this this truth 2150 01:41:18,169 --> 01:41:15,780 embargo broken what was his main it's 2151 01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:18,179 simple it's simple there are a lot of 2152 01:41:22,820 --> 01:41:19,610 Rockefellers there were four sons 2153 01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:22,830 Lawrence was the progressive he was a 2154 01:41:24,830 --> 01:41:24,090 big big supporter of the Democratic 2155 01:41:27,169 --> 01:41:24,840 Party 2156 01:41:29,660 --> 01:41:27,179 he was an environmentalist and if 2157 01:41:31,370 --> 01:41:29,670 anthropos ALR he supported John max work 2158 01:41:34,339 --> 01:41:31,380 at Harvard he supported crop circle 2159 01:41:36,229 --> 01:41:34,349 research he supported a one foundation 2160 01:41:37,399 --> 01:41:36,239 it was doing work in and I guess you 2161 01:41:38,569 --> 01:41:37,409 could call the paranormal I don't 2162 01:41:41,689 --> 01:41:38,579 believe in the paranormal there's no 2163 01:41:42,649 --> 01:41:41,699 such thing he was the good guy what can 2164 01:41:45,319 --> 01:41:42,659 I say he was the out-of-the-box 2165 01:41:46,939 --> 01:41:45,329 Rockefeller and he wanted the truth out 2166 01:41:48,890 --> 01:41:46,949 on the et presence he wanted disclosure 2167 01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:48,900 because he knew that the world needed to 2168 01:41:52,580 --> 01:41:51,090 know this and he approached the 2169 01:41:54,979 --> 01:41:52,590 administration and all good intention 2170 01:41:56,839 --> 01:41:54,989 and the effort went on for three years 2171 01:41:58,100 --> 01:41:56,849 and the reason it didn't succeed is that 2172 01:41:59,989 --> 01:41:58,110 just like Jimmy Carter when Bill Clinton 2173 01:42:01,489 --> 01:41:59,999 started asking around the military 2174 01:42:03,350 --> 01:42:01,499 intelligence complex said go screw 2175 01:42:04,609 --> 01:42:03,360 yourself you're just the president you 2176 01:42:06,679 --> 01:42:04,619 don't have a need-to-know you don't have 2177 01:42:08,209 --> 01:42:06,689 a right to know now that's treason and 2178 01:42:09,739 --> 01:42:08,219 it's it's it's a constitutional breach 2179 01:42:11,390 --> 01:42:09,749 but that's just one of the many 2180 01:42:15,199 --> 01:42:11,400 dysfunctions that were operating under 2181 01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:15,209 now in America we have created a mess an 2182 01:42:18,310 --> 01:42:16,530 absolute mess 2183 01:42:21,799 --> 01:42:18,320 what I call across a broad spectrum 2184 01:42:24,469 --> 01:42:21,809 dysfunction that the and like like a 2185 01:42:26,419 --> 01:42:24,479 human body that develops broad spectrum 2186 01:42:30,009 --> 01:42:26,429 dysfunction within you know multiple 2187 01:42:32,449 --> 01:42:30,019 organs and so forth we Det were dying 2188 01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:32,459 the countries die in case you haven't 2189 01:42:37,100 --> 01:42:35,489 noticed well Marcus doing well and the 2190 01:42:39,290 --> 01:42:37,110 mega-rich are doing well but they can 2191 01:42:40,969 --> 01:42:39,300 all move to Australia or something the 2192 01:42:42,919 --> 01:42:40,979 country itself the rest of us is dying 2193 01:42:45,020 --> 01:42:42,929 what one interesting thing that I found 2194 01:42:49,310 --> 01:42:45,030 any you've discussed 2195 01:42:50,629 --> 01:42:49,320 that's the media is not exactly the most 2196 01:42:52,699 --> 01:42:50,639 trustworthy when it comes to important 2197 01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:52,709 things newsworthy things that can get 2198 01:42:55,609 --> 01:42:54,570 ratings sure but they're you know if 2199 01:42:57,529 --> 01:42:55,619 there's something that is of importance 2200 01:42:58,549 --> 01:42:57,539 to the american people or people in 2201 01:43:02,810 --> 01:42:58,559 general of their country they're not 2202 01:43:06,799 --> 01:43:02,820 going to the big i'd the theory is from 2203 01:43:08,179 --> 01:43:06,809 some on v non fox news watching either 2204 01:43:10,009 --> 01:43:08,189 centrist or left or even some of the 2205 01:43:12,859 --> 01:43:10,019 right is that if you've got rupert 2206 01:43:16,219 --> 01:43:12,869 murdoch who is a very very wealthy 2207 01:43:19,489 --> 01:43:16,229 individual who owns you know sky in in 2208 01:43:22,310 --> 01:43:19,499 the UK owns you know multiple news 2209 01:43:26,959 --> 01:43:22,320 networks in the in Australia as well as 2210 01:43:29,870 --> 01:43:26,969 Fox in in the United States that the 2211 01:43:30,679 --> 01:43:29,880 idea of manipulation is there when it 2212 01:43:33,739 --> 01:43:30,689 comes to elections 2213 01:43:35,569 --> 01:43:33,749 you know the numerous conservative wins 2214 01:43:37,429 --> 01:43:35,579 in Australia even though there has not 2215 01:43:38,509 --> 01:43:37,439 been the type of support for a lot of 2216 01:43:40,070 --> 01:43:38,519 their platforms and they've been doing 2217 01:43:41,540 --> 01:43:40,080 horrible things to the 2218 01:43:43,790 --> 01:43:41,550 in Australia I've got family down there 2219 01:43:48,650 --> 01:43:43,800 who are like yeah it's getting kind of 2220 01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:48,660 nuts down there the entire you know very 2221 01:43:52,070 --> 01:43:50,610 far right-wing conservative movement 2222 01:43:53,660 --> 01:43:52,080 that is happening in the UK where 2223 01:43:56,150 --> 01:43:53,670 they're becoming more of a totalitarian 2224 01:43:58,670 --> 01:43:56,160 nation you know month by month it seems 2225 01:44:00,440 --> 01:43:58,680 or they're trying to hopefully they can 2226 01:44:02,150 --> 01:44:00,450 straighten themselves and get back to 2227 01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:02,160 reason and then you've got the United 2228 01:44:04,910 --> 01:44:03,210 States where there's a lot of 2229 01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:04,920 manipulation and spin when it comes to 2230 01:44:13,100 --> 01:44:07,730 the you know Fox News as a whole as as a 2231 01:44:15,350 --> 01:44:13,110 you know as news organization moorthi 2232 01:44:17,300 --> 01:44:15,360 right would sorry the left-wing or 2233 01:44:19,880 --> 01:44:17,310 considered left-wing news organizations 2234 01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:19,890 kind of matched suit in in the last nine 2235 01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:22,050 months or even even the last you know 2236 01:44:44,150 --> 01:44:39,440 the media and people like things to be 2237 01:44:45,770 --> 01:44:44,160 simple they that they don't peep it's 2238 01:44:48,050 --> 01:44:45,780 human nature you don't like somebody to 2239 01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:48,060 come to you and say give me a broad 2240 01:44:53,330 --> 01:44:51,090 spectrum analysis of the entire media in 2241 01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:53,340 the United States alright but those new 2242 01:44:57,080 --> 01:44:55,050 instances subtleties and everything else 2243 01:44:58,520 --> 01:44:57,090 in this huge long history now basically 2244 01:45:01,160 --> 01:44:58,530 I want to look tell me the media is 2245 01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:01,170 either totally evil or totally good or 2246 01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:04,170 totally left or totally right I get that 2247 01:45:09,050 --> 01:45:07,410 well reality doesn't work that way we 2248 01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:09,060 have a huge media complex in the United 2249 01:45:15,170 --> 01:45:12,690 States it's growing horizontally it's 2250 01:45:19,370 --> 01:45:15,180 being consolidated vertically fine all 2251 01:45:22,610 --> 01:45:19,380 of this has various various impacts some 2252 01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:22,620 are good some are bad the media has 2253 01:45:27,020 --> 01:45:25,410 become more biased particularly in the 2254 01:45:30,050 --> 01:45:27,030 television Zone 2255 01:45:32,230 --> 01:45:30,060 mm-hmm so that you're seeing much more 2256 01:45:36,620 --> 01:45:32,240 left bias turning up on the television 2257 01:45:38,750 --> 01:45:36,630 arena right and obviously the right-wing 2258 01:45:42,860 --> 01:45:38,760 bias is primarily dominated by Fox News 2259 01:45:45,710 --> 01:45:42,870 and Clear Channel Radio the there is 2260 01:45:48,650 --> 01:45:45,720 news on television there are generally 2261 01:45:51,950 --> 01:45:48,660 the the network News at 6 and 10 2262 01:45:54,860 --> 01:45:51,960 is not that biased it's it's pretty much 2263 01:45:56,330 --> 01:45:54,870 News CNN International late at night you 2264 01:45:58,490 --> 01:45:56,340 get some pretty much straight straight 2265 01:46:01,520 --> 01:45:58,500 news but we've seen the rise of what 2266 01:46:04,700 --> 01:46:01,530 we'll call news talk shows and these 2267 01:46:05,150 --> 01:46:04,710 shows are basically news but also very 2268 01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:05,160 much 2269 01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:07,890 I'm from a perspective depending upon 2270 01:46:11,810 --> 01:46:11,370 the news host and MSNBC CNN leans the 2271 01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:11,820 left 2272 01:46:17,930 --> 01:46:15,690 Fox leans heavily to the right so that's 2273 01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:17,940 the status there and and you have to use 2274 01:46:23,660 --> 01:46:19,610 your your mind you have to use your 2275 01:46:26,180 --> 01:46:23,670 education to be able to sort out what's 2276 01:46:29,690 --> 01:46:26,190 news and what's slant and try to get a 2277 01:46:31,070 --> 01:46:29,700 picture that way and unfortunately one 2278 01:46:33,050 --> 01:46:31,080 of the problems in America is our 2279 01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:33,060 education institution is dysfunctional 2280 01:46:39,140 --> 01:46:35,730 and it's starting to to break down and 2281 01:46:42,110 --> 01:46:39,150 so the number of people who are able to 2282 01:46:44,820 --> 01:46:42,120 have the education needed to understand 2283 01:46:46,890 --> 01:46:44,830 these things is diminishing 2284 01:46:49,470 --> 01:46:46,900 percentage that makes them more 2285 01:46:51,510 --> 01:46:49,480 susceptible to propaganda and then we've 2286 01:46:53,670 --> 01:46:51,520 got the entire Internet which is a vast 2287 01:46:55,590 --> 01:46:53,680 new media complex it's only 20 years old 2288 01:46:57,150 --> 01:46:55,600 and we don't even know how to use it yet 2289 01:46:59,310 --> 01:46:57,160 we haven't even figured out how powerful 2290 01:47:02,580 --> 01:46:59,320 it is and it's generated a whole 2291 01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:02,590 plethora of information phenomena that 2292 01:47:07,500 --> 01:47:05,130 we just we haven't even begin to analyze 2293 01:47:09,150 --> 01:47:07,510 in other words if you have even a modest 2294 01:47:11,190 --> 01:47:09,160 amount of money you can create a dozen 2295 01:47:12,900 --> 01:47:11,200 quote new sites you can make them look 2296 01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:12,910 like new sites you can give them all the 2297 01:47:17,550 --> 01:47:14,890 bells and whistles right and then you 2298 01:47:18,660 --> 01:47:17,560 put out breaking news and blurbs these 2299 01:47:20,130 --> 01:47:18,670 things are all over the place a lot I'm 2300 01:47:20,700 --> 01:47:20,140 a completely fake others are heavily 2301 01:47:22,860 --> 01:47:20,710 biased 2302 01:47:24,660 --> 01:47:22,870 they're simply propaganda we've got that 2303 01:47:30,540 --> 01:47:24,670 to deal with assuming you want to go 2304 01:47:33,210 --> 01:47:30,550 there so in the print the print is a 2305 01:47:34,260 --> 01:47:33,220 little less chaotic you've got 2306 01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:34,270 left-leaning print you've got 2307 01:47:37,530 --> 01:47:35,650 right-leaning print but it's pretty much 2308 01:47:39,660 --> 01:47:37,540 understood and it tends to be and should 2309 01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:39,670 be on the end the editorial pages the 2310 01:47:44,240 --> 01:47:41,050 news on the news page it should be 2311 01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:44,250 straight that's still kind of the case 2312 01:47:52,050 --> 01:47:46,810 but then you've got another problem and 2313 01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:52,060 that is the the news media world in 2314 01:47:56,670 --> 01:47:54,370 general has capitulated in to large 2315 01:47:58,890 --> 01:47:56,680 degree to the national security state in 2316 01:48:00,810 --> 01:47:58,900 to the military intelligence complex for 2317 01:48:02,220 --> 01:48:00,820 national security reasons because those 2318 01:48:03,750 --> 01:48:02,230 Soviets had thousands of nuclear 2319 01:48:06,390 --> 01:48:03,760 missiles in if they launched them our 2320 01:48:09,780 --> 01:48:06,400 society was gone get that that's pretty 2321 01:48:11,670 --> 01:48:09,790 severe right and so that meant the 2322 01:48:13,170 --> 01:48:11,680 national security state says to the 2323 01:48:14,340 --> 01:48:13,180 media look you need to work with us you 2324 01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:14,350 need to play ball with us it's gonna be 2325 01:48:17,910 --> 01:48:15,850 a nuclear war and we're all gonna die I 2326 01:48:19,980 --> 01:48:17,920 think okay okay no problem and they did 2327 01:48:20,940 --> 01:48:19,990 and then you know the national security 2328 01:48:23,100 --> 01:48:20,950 state said well you know if you're 2329 01:48:24,900 --> 01:48:23,110 cooperating with us on the et truth 2330 01:48:28,470 --> 01:48:24,910 embargo well maybe they'll cooperate on 2331 01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:28,480 this or that or whatever and so give me 2332 01:48:33,450 --> 01:48:30,970 an example when when George Bush who had 2333 01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:33,460 no business being president and he and 2334 01:48:37,110 --> 01:48:35,410 his neocon buddies and particularly Dick 2335 01:48:39,030 --> 01:48:37,120 Cheney started cooking up the the Iraq 2336 01:48:40,860 --> 01:48:39,040 war which will prove to be a bigger 2337 01:48:42,710 --> 01:48:40,870 disaster to American that Vietnam War 2338 01:48:46,530 --> 01:48:42,720 which I didn't think was possible 2339 01:48:48,540 --> 01:48:46,540 the news media didn't come at it enough 2340 01:48:51,030 --> 01:48:48,550 they didn't press it enough they didn't 2341 01:48:53,150 --> 01:48:51,040 engage it enough they let it go because 2342 01:48:57,210 --> 01:48:53,160 you know a couple of buildings were 2343 01:48:58,620 --> 01:48:57,220 blown up and fell and therefore we we 2344 01:49:01,080 --> 01:48:58,630 got a play ball here we don't 2345 01:49:03,660 --> 01:49:01,090 wannabe anti-patriotic catastrophe so 2346 01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:03,670 you got that problem alright now look 2347 01:49:08,100 --> 01:49:05,410 the average voter 2348 01:49:10,740 --> 01:49:08,110 I have great sympathies for because they 2349 01:49:13,620 --> 01:49:10,750 know a fraction about this that I do and 2350 01:49:15,570 --> 01:49:13,630 so it's easy for me to talk about this 2351 01:49:16,980 --> 01:49:15,580 and easy for me to look at these media 2352 01:49:19,110 --> 01:49:16,990 and figure out what I need to know what 2353 01:49:21,030 --> 01:49:19,120 I don't the average person can't do that 2354 01:49:22,650 --> 01:49:21,040 so they are vulnerable absolutely 2355 01:49:24,300 --> 01:49:22,660 vulnerable to propagandists which is why 2356 01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:24,310 I you wanna you want to have a minimum 2357 01:49:28,950 --> 01:49:26,530 of that in your society that's like 2358 01:49:30,780 --> 01:49:28,960 being sick right you say I'm sick I want 2359 01:49:33,180 --> 01:49:30,790 a minimum of disease right I know I'm 2360 01:49:34,740 --> 01:49:33,190 sick but I don't get too sick well 2361 01:49:38,310 --> 01:49:34,750 what's happening is we're getting too 2362 01:49:41,010 --> 01:49:38,320 sick and that's why the countries die I 2363 01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:41,020 don't have any easy answers there I know 2364 01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:43,690 that that the only thing that's going to 2365 01:49:47,430 --> 01:49:45,130 save this country by and large is broad 2366 01:49:48,900 --> 01:49:47,440 spectrum reform we need to reform the 2367 01:49:51,180 --> 01:49:48,910 media we need to reform the political 2368 01:49:53,190 --> 01:49:51,190 system the electoral system we need to 2369 01:49:55,050 --> 01:49:53,200 perform reform the education system and 2370 01:49:56,580 --> 01:49:55,060 of course we need to clearly reform our 2371 01:49:59,520 --> 01:49:56,590 international to your political policies 2372 01:50:02,300 --> 01:49:59,530 and our war policies the odds of that 2373 01:50:05,100 --> 01:50:02,310 happening right now are next to nothing 2374 01:50:07,530 --> 01:50:05,110 however there is one thing that could 2375 01:50:09,450 --> 01:50:07,540 set in motion these kinds of reforms 2376 01:50:12,330 --> 01:50:09,460 they could set in motion a reexamination 2377 01:50:14,150 --> 01:50:12,340 entire society and that that is there's 2378 01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:14,160 only one thing nothing even remotely 2379 01:50:19,590 --> 01:50:17,170 approaches this thing with that kind of 2380 01:50:20,550 --> 01:50:19,600 power and that thing is the formal 2381 01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:20,560 acknowledgment of the extra-terrestrial 2382 01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:23,290 presence disclosure the world has gotten 2383 01:50:27,300 --> 01:50:24,850 to learn they're not alone there's a 2384 01:50:28,650 --> 01:50:27,310 galaxy of life out there and we need to 2385 01:50:30,270 --> 01:50:28,660 decide how we're gonna make a JIT and 2386 01:50:32,790 --> 01:50:30,280 how we're gonna deal with ourselves in 2387 01:50:34,620 --> 01:50:32,800 light of that information and the 2388 01:50:37,290 --> 01:50:34,630 government unfortunately which is dying 2389 01:50:39,060 --> 01:50:37,300 is denying withholding and embargoing 2390 01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:39,070 the one thing that could possibly save 2391 01:50:42,270 --> 01:50:40,810 its life and that's why there's an 2392 01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:42,280 advocacy movement that's why I'm seeking 2393 01:50:46,170 --> 01:50:44,290 support and funding so we can get this 2394 01:50:48,450 --> 01:50:46,180 done it's not an easy thing to 2395 01:50:49,950 --> 01:50:48,460 understand if I was trying to save the 2396 01:50:51,990 --> 01:50:49,960 friggin whales in the Antarctic Ocean 2397 01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:52,000 people would be handing me checks left 2398 01:50:55,590 --> 01:50:54,130 and right save those whales Steve saved 2399 01:50:58,050 --> 01:50:55,600 those wheels here's a boat here's 2400 01:50:59,790 --> 01:50:58,060 another boat but that's that's easy I 2401 01:51:01,650 --> 01:50:59,800 get that and whales are cool and I want 2402 01:51:03,810 --> 01:51:01,660 them saved but trying to get funding for 2403 01:51:05,730 --> 01:51:03,820 this people I don't get it I don't get 2404 01:51:08,850 --> 01:51:05,740 it I don't get it I mean it's just much 2405 01:51:11,220 --> 01:51:08,860 whatever what not there and the 2406 01:51:12,570 --> 01:51:11,230 government goes great thank you we 2407 01:51:14,550 --> 01:51:12,580 really don't want to be bothered 2408 01:51:17,940 --> 01:51:14,560 we don't want any pressure well we got 2409 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:17,950 this we'll work this out it's okay it's 2410 01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:20,890 not okay right and I'm even telling you 2411 01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:22,930 the heavy stuff I mean even I'm not 2412 01:51:25,890 --> 01:51:24,370 going to I'm not gonna tell you the 2413 01:51:27,480 --> 01:51:25,900 stuff that people really should be 2414 01:51:29,190 --> 01:51:27,490 worried about I'm just putting in a 2415 01:51:33,540 --> 01:51:29,200 straight context country is dying 2416 01:51:35,580 --> 01:51:33,550 wake up you know III can see on your 2417 01:51:38,070 --> 01:51:35,590 face and I've been in sales for a long 2418 01:51:39,390 --> 01:51:38,080 time being able to read people is kind 2419 01:51:41,610 --> 01:51:39,400 of a gift that I have you know call me 2420 01:51:43,650 --> 01:51:41,620 an empath you seem like a man who has 2421 01:51:46,770 --> 01:51:43,660 been on a very long fight for a very 2422 01:51:51,450 --> 01:51:46,780 long time you've made progress you've 2423 01:51:53,780 --> 01:51:51,460 done amazing things but you seem you 2424 01:51:55,650 --> 01:51:53,790 seem frustrated you seem a lot more 2425 01:51:57,090 --> 01:51:55,660 angry than the last time we had you on 2426 01:51:58,170 --> 01:51:57,100 the ship well again also the last time 2427 01:51:59,640 --> 01:51:58,180 we had you on the show we didn't have 2428 01:52:04,080 --> 01:51:59,650 video at that point we've we've made 2429 01:52:06,390 --> 01:52:04,090 some upgrades since then but when was 2430 01:52:09,990 --> 01:52:06,400 that by the way that was on the show you 2431 01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:10,000 know I it was September 30th 2016 that 2432 01:52:13,350 --> 01:52:11,650 was a before the election yeah before 2433 01:52:15,510 --> 01:52:13,360 the election you you were like yes I'm 2434 01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:15,520 number one so so this is the 2435 01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:17,050 post-election Steve you're talking to 2436 01:52:20,670 --> 01:52:19,090 now and okay post-election right so yeah 2437 01:52:21,750 --> 01:52:20,680 it might frustrate it you bet I am 2438 01:52:24,210 --> 01:52:21,760 am I the only one in the country 2439 01:52:26,130 --> 01:52:24,220 frustrated helping home no we are 2440 01:52:28,470 --> 01:52:26,140 becoming a nation of frustrated people 2441 01:52:30,450 --> 01:52:28,480 you haven't even seen the worst yet okay 2442 01:52:33,330 --> 01:52:30,460 I assure you this whole business going 2443 01:52:36,150 --> 01:52:33,340 on in Washington right it's going to get 2444 01:52:39,890 --> 01:52:36,160 a lot worse yeah trust me right it's 2445 01:52:42,930 --> 01:52:39,900 just getting rolling and what can I say 2446 01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:42,940 you know we got a country here to run we 2447 01:52:46,890 --> 01:52:45,130 got a civilization to advance this is 2448 01:52:49,260 --> 01:52:46,900 nothing but nine months off in the woods 2449 01:52:51,270 --> 01:52:49,270 beating our heads against the trees and 2450 01:52:52,830 --> 01:52:51,280 it's gonna go on for months more and 2451 01:52:55,140 --> 01:52:52,840 we're gonna beat our heads too bloody 2452 01:52:57,390 --> 01:52:55,150 and what can I say that's life its 2453 01:52:58,920 --> 01:52:57,400 history and back in history if you could 2454 01:53:00,360 --> 01:52:58,930 go back in time 4000 years and you could 2455 01:53:03,270 --> 01:53:00,370 pick spots where boy you didn't want to 2456 01:53:03,510 --> 01:53:03,280 be living then bad things happened all 2457 01:53:06,540 --> 01:53:03,520 right 2458 01:53:08,490 --> 01:53:06,550 things go wrong kingdoms fail you know 2459 01:53:11,250 --> 01:53:08,500 hordes of invaders come in kill 2460 01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:11,260 everybody so like you know world war ii 2461 01:53:17,100 --> 01:53:14,290 imagine being in poland 1939 okay 2462 01:53:18,930 --> 01:53:17,110 situation 2017 united states 2463 01:53:20,580 --> 01:53:18,940 you know what's frustrating about it 2464 01:53:22,440 --> 01:53:20,590 though is these other times you sort of 2465 01:53:24,690 --> 01:53:22,450 understand they didn't know they didn't 2466 01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:24,700 understand this is this is what humans 2467 01:53:28,140 --> 01:53:26,050 did we 2468 01:53:29,850 --> 01:53:28,150 no better we have the understanding and 2469 01:53:32,069 --> 01:53:29,860 the knowledge of how society should run 2470 01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:32,079 we know it works by and large what 2471 01:53:35,459 --> 01:53:33,610 doesn't and we also know what we're 2472 01:53:37,290 --> 01:53:35,469 doing to the planet in each other and so 2473 01:53:39,180 --> 01:53:37,300 we don't have an excuse anymore what's 2474 01:53:41,430 --> 01:53:39,190 going on now is gratuitous slaughter 2475 01:53:43,049 --> 01:53:41,440 murder stupidity environmental 2476 01:53:45,510 --> 01:53:43,059 degradation simply by people that don't 2477 01:53:47,069 --> 01:53:45,520 get a [\h__\h] right they know but they 2478 01:53:48,569 --> 01:53:47,079 don't care and as long as people are 2479 01:53:50,819 --> 01:53:48,579 willing to let those people get away 2480 01:53:52,229 --> 01:53:50,829 with it they'll continue to do it all 2481 01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:52,239 right and so that's what's frustrating 2482 01:53:57,569 --> 01:53:54,730 about it it's like having a sigh a kid 2483 01:54:00,750 --> 01:53:57,579 with a hundred and seventy-five IQ that 2484 01:54:02,700 --> 01:54:00,760 could be working on three PhDs right and 2485 01:54:04,740 --> 01:54:02,710 basically he's out robbing 7-eleven so 2486 01:54:07,260 --> 01:54:04,750 in order to stoke a a weed habit or 2487 01:54:10,950 --> 01:54:07,270 something that's frustrating it's like 2488 01:54:14,100 --> 01:54:10,960 that now I know that there has been and 2489 01:54:16,140 --> 01:54:14,110 the like this is the show that dint of 2490 01:54:17,729 --> 01:54:16,150 Laura we're all about cutting through 2491 01:54:20,069 --> 01:54:17,739 the [\h__\h] and and trying to get to 2492 01:54:21,330 --> 01:54:20,079 the actual truth because you know as 2493 01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:21,340 Jimmy Church said the last time we had 2494 01:54:25,500 --> 01:54:23,290 him on the show people say seek the 2495 01:54:26,669 --> 01:54:25,510 truth because they've been told to lie 2496 01:54:28,530 --> 01:54:26,679 and it's been a big lie that's been 2497 01:54:31,919 --> 01:54:28,540 repeated to them over and over and over 2498 01:54:35,939 --> 01:54:31,929 again and at the same time there seem to 2499 01:54:38,310 --> 01:54:35,949 be certain actors within it and there's 2500 01:54:40,049 --> 01:54:38,320 certain actors within the field and I 2501 01:54:41,790 --> 01:54:40,059 know that we had this discussion on last 2502 01:54:44,609 --> 01:54:41,800 episode of Michael Huntington who is 2503 01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:44,619 part of this new hard rationalist 2504 01:54:49,709 --> 01:54:46,090 movement that wants to be able to bring 2505 01:54:51,629 --> 01:54:49,719 the notion and and the belief of 2506 01:54:53,669 --> 01:54:51,639 scientific research and trying to be 2507 01:54:55,649 --> 01:54:53,679 able to get to the bottom of what what 2508 01:54:57,330 --> 01:54:55,659 what is the phenomena is is it you know 2509 01:54:58,229 --> 01:54:57,340 is that even for them they're there they 2510 01:55:00,689 --> 01:54:58,239 understand that there's something going 2511 01:55:02,790 --> 01:55:00,699 on that there is that there is something 2512 01:55:04,350 --> 01:55:02,800 that people are experiencing for them 2513 01:55:06,149 --> 01:55:04,360 they may not necessarily understand that 2514 01:55:08,399 --> 01:55:06,159 it's extraterrestrial then you will have 2515 01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:08,409 certain organizations that will let's 2516 01:55:12,990 --> 01:55:11,170 say without naming any anyone and do 2517 01:55:18,149 --> 01:55:13,000 your listeners out there it's guy up who 2518 01:55:22,530 --> 01:55:18,159 will trot this you know potentially you 2519 01:55:25,589 --> 01:55:22,540 know a great revelation of some nos 2520 01:55:28,109 --> 01:55:25,599 Hammami that is 500 or so years old or 2521 01:55:31,229 --> 01:55:28,119 or longer that you know you have people 2522 01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:31,239 who are in show business who are saying 2523 01:55:35,339 --> 01:55:32,770 nope it's a hundred percent you know 2524 01:55:36,510 --> 01:55:35,349 like this is [\h__\h] to me and there's 2525 01:55:39,319 --> 01:55:36,520 a lot of people one guy that I that I 2526 01:55:41,180 --> 01:55:39,329 respect George Noory your you know 2527 01:55:42,500 --> 01:55:41,190 props to you for keeping the flame going 2528 01:55:47,810 --> 01:55:42,510 on coast-to-coast for as long as you 2529 01:55:49,430 --> 01:55:47,820 have and mmm sorry that's my cat that's 2530 01:55:51,620 --> 01:55:49,440 my favorite carpet captain the total 2531 01:55:53,359 --> 01:55:51,630 gray cat I love that look I love that 2532 01:55:56,149 --> 01:55:53,369 kind of cat this is Coco she's the 2533 01:55:59,330 --> 01:55:56,159 official co-host our normal co-host big 2534 01:56:00,919 --> 01:55:59,340 sexy is currently in busy season season 2535 01:56:02,750 --> 01:56:00,929 with his work and we moved to Thursdays 2536 01:56:06,020 --> 01:56:02,760 during the summer so he can't be on so 2537 01:56:10,250 --> 01:56:06,030 she's running a double duty and again 2538 01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:10,260 she's as much of a well as much of a 2539 01:56:14,419 --> 01:56:11,730 cynic as I can be ball still being 2540 01:56:16,580 --> 01:56:14,429 open-minded getting back to what I was 2541 01:56:18,200 --> 01:56:16,590 talking about before mm-hmm 2542 01:56:20,060 --> 01:56:18,210 I don't I'm not sure if it's just a 2543 01:56:21,500 --> 01:56:20,070 matter of there's a lot of people who 2544 01:56:23,510 --> 01:56:21,510 were just read they're doing these 2545 01:56:25,700 --> 01:56:23,520 things to be able to say people want to 2546 01:56:27,649 --> 01:56:25,710 believe in something because there's so 2547 01:56:29,060 --> 01:56:27,659 much [\h__\h] that's out there that 2548 01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:29,070 they're they're willing to be able to 2549 01:56:32,689 --> 01:56:31,290 crawl through the desert and when they 2550 01:56:36,530 --> 01:56:32,699 find out that the waters just a mirage 2551 01:56:38,089 --> 01:56:36,540 they'll drink the sand and yeah that's a 2552 01:56:39,830 --> 01:56:38,099 good analogy I'm gonna steal that I like 2553 01:56:41,990 --> 01:56:39,840 that it's actually from West Wing so I 2554 01:56:43,700 --> 01:56:42,000 stole that so you can use it but it 2555 01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:43,710 might in West Wing love West Manor 2556 01:56:49,790 --> 01:56:46,770 great show but the idea is you've got 2557 01:56:52,280 --> 01:56:49,800 the infotainment you've got the UFO 2558 01:56:54,169 --> 01:56:52,290 tenant segment and my question to you 2559 01:56:56,569 --> 01:56:54,179 with your experience and what you know 2560 01:56:59,270 --> 01:56:56,579 is your opinion that it is 2561 01:57:02,000 --> 01:56:59,280 disinformation or as a capitalization of 2562 01:57:04,760 --> 01:57:02,010 the phenomenon so mostly capitalization 2563 01:57:07,129 --> 01:57:04,770 and there may be some disinfo in there 2564 01:57:08,689 --> 01:57:07,139 the government's much less into that 2565 01:57:13,850 --> 01:57:08,699 than they were because we're near the 2566 01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:13,860 end of this little charade now you know 2567 01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:15,570 there's many kinds of disinfo there's 2568 01:57:23,810 --> 01:57:19,290 the government disinfo which is usually 2569 01:57:25,459 --> 01:57:23,820 sophisticated and good then there's one 2570 01:57:27,169 --> 01:57:25,469 called private disinfo this can come 2571 01:57:28,790 --> 01:57:27,179 from people that just don't like the 2572 01:57:30,020 --> 01:57:28,800 issue don't like the people in it or 2573 01:57:32,540 --> 01:57:30,030 just want to have some fun and they 2574 01:57:33,350 --> 01:57:32,550 create what amounts to disinformation a 2575 01:57:41,209 --> 01:57:33,360 hoax 2576 01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:41,219 disinformation but all non how would you 2577 01:57:47,780 --> 01:57:43,650 say but most dissipation is a hoax of 2578 01:57:49,310 --> 01:57:47,790 sorts right and so there's some people 2579 01:57:50,959 --> 01:57:49,320 out there just do this and it muddies 2580 01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:50,969 the water too 2581 01:57:58,430 --> 01:57:54,410 and it's not helpful but let's be clear 2582 01:58:04,479 --> 01:57:58,440 ultimately the problem is not this this 2583 01:58:09,800 --> 01:58:06,320 overzealousness about a particular 2584 01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:09,810 subject the problem is the United States 2585 01:58:16,370 --> 01:58:13,170 government's policy of embargo and the 2586 01:58:18,410 --> 01:58:16,380 conduct of an embargo since 1947 what 2587 01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:18,420 the government did essentially was first 2588 01:58:21,830 --> 01:58:19,890 of all intellectually ghettoize the 2589 01:58:24,620 --> 01:58:21,840 issue and the people in it right 2590 01:58:27,530 --> 01:58:24,630 ridicule them he encouraged ridiculing 2591 01:58:29,900 --> 01:58:27,540 of them wall him off so that they 2592 01:58:32,150 --> 01:58:29,910 couldn't get money couldn't have much 2593 01:58:35,990 --> 01:58:32,160 influence and keep things under control 2594 01:58:37,939 --> 01:58:36,000 they did that this and and and in doing 2595 01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:37,949 that they created what I call a truth of 2596 01:58:44,030 --> 01:58:42,330 a cume so by undermining the effort to 2597 01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:44,040 get to the truth and by putting in 2598 01:58:48,110 --> 01:58:45,930 falseness and so forth they create a 2599 01:58:49,430 --> 01:58:48,120 truth vacuum now that and normally a 2600 01:58:50,510 --> 01:58:49,440 truth vacuum doesn't mean anything 2601 01:58:51,459 --> 01:58:50,520 unless it's about something really 2602 01:58:56,390 --> 01:58:51,469 important 2603 01:58:58,610 --> 01:58:56,400 in the extra-terrestrial presence as far 2604 01:59:00,770 --> 01:58:58,620 as I'm concerned and so when they 2605 01:59:02,810 --> 01:59:00,780 created this truth vacuum you know what 2606 01:59:04,670 --> 01:59:02,820 happens with vacuums it sucks in what's 2607 01:59:08,209 --> 01:59:04,680 ever close by in other words it gets 2608 01:59:11,420 --> 01:59:08,219 filled up with whatever is nearby and so 2609 01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:11,430 essentially the there are plenty of 2610 01:59:19,810 --> 01:59:17,800 have moved to fill that vacuum with 2611 01:59:22,270 --> 01:59:19,820 whatever they think or believe or want 2612 01:59:24,610 --> 01:59:22,280 to do or have fun with and because the 2613 01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:24,620 issue is so important and so broadly 2614 01:59:29,010 --> 01:59:26,570 known I mean that is hardly anybody in 2615 01:59:31,780 --> 01:59:29,020 this planet that does know a UFO is 2616 01:59:33,130 --> 01:59:31,790 there's money to be made there's 2617 01:59:36,670 --> 01:59:33,140 certainly some attention to be gotten 2618 01:59:38,110 --> 01:59:36,680 and so there's a lot of that more than 2619 01:59:41,320 --> 01:59:38,120 they would normally would be I'm sure 2620 01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:41,330 you cannot find this this kind of truth 2621 01:59:47,500 --> 01:59:45,290 vacuum in this level or degree of funny 2622 01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:47,510 business and say the field of quantum 2623 01:59:52,210 --> 01:59:50,810 mechanics right that's not happening 2624 01:59:53,800 --> 01:59:52,220 that doesn't mean there isn't somebody 2625 01:59:55,870 --> 01:59:53,810 out there was some quack cop quantum 2626 01:59:58,180 --> 01:59:55,880 mechanics Theory just means it's there's 2627 01:59:59,680 --> 01:59:58,190 no truth vacuum there really so the 2628 02:00:00,970 --> 01:59:59,690 government is the problem and until the 2629 02:00:02,770 --> 02:00:00,980 truth embargo is over you're gonna see 2630 02:00:04,690 --> 02:00:02,780 plenty of this and as I've said many 2631 02:00:07,390 --> 02:00:04,700 times and I've written this up and put 2632 02:00:09,430 --> 02:00:07,400 it out my might list my updates and so 2633 02:00:15,400 --> 02:00:09,440 forth the closer we get disclosure the 2634 02:00:17,410 --> 02:00:15,410 more hoaxing the more people are going 2635 02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:17,420 to try to take advantage the more people 2636 02:00:21,310 --> 02:00:18,530 that are going to try to get up on the 2637 02:00:23,680 --> 02:00:21,320 stage and do their tap dance because 2638 02:00:27,940 --> 02:00:23,690 they've got an audience it's it's not 2639 02:00:30,460 --> 02:00:27,950 it's percy unavoidable and so as far as 2640 02:00:33,370 --> 02:00:30,470 I'm concerned my work I just press the 2641 02:00:34,660 --> 02:00:33,380 disclosure process forward using with 2642 02:00:37,540 --> 02:00:34,670 the various whatever strategy seems 2643 02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:37,550 workable at the time and I can't invest 2644 02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:39,650 or kitten that much time in worrying 2645 02:00:44,710 --> 02:00:41,690 about what hundreds of hundred other 2646 02:00:45,970 --> 02:00:44,720 people are choosing to do under these 2647 02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:45,980 circumstances they're gonna do what 2648 02:00:51,190 --> 02:00:49,010 they're gonna do I am wondering how you 2649 02:00:53,140 --> 02:00:51,200 have been able to operate with such 2650 02:00:56,140 --> 02:00:53,150 impunity feel a lot like this again 2651 02:00:58,540 --> 02:00:56,150 since since the mid the mid-90s you know 2652 02:01:00,580 --> 02:00:58,550 the usual joke and it's always has been 2653 02:01:03,100 --> 02:01:00,590 a theme since art bell with coast to 2654 02:01:04,810 --> 02:01:03,110 coast that if a call was dropped it's 2655 02:01:06,940 --> 02:01:04,820 usually because of somebody slipped you 2656 02:01:09,580 --> 02:01:06,950 know button or maybe a line became 2657 02:01:11,380 --> 02:01:09,590 disconnected and you know I'm joking 2658 02:01:13,510 --> 02:01:11,390 with the guys in the show going like 2659 02:01:14,920 --> 02:01:13,520 maybe the g-men got Steven Bassett and 2660 02:01:16,390 --> 02:01:14,930 that's why he's not here right now I've 2661 02:01:19,060 --> 02:01:16,400 not been able to reach him we don't know 2662 02:01:20,740 --> 02:01:19,070 where he is and it's like you know like 2663 02:01:22,930 --> 02:01:20,750 knowing full well that it's it's pretty 2664 02:01:24,850 --> 02:01:22,940 mix-up because you're you're one of the 2665 02:01:26,470 --> 02:01:24,860 most professional individuals like you 2666 02:01:27,820 --> 02:01:26,480 you're a lobbyist you're an act a 2667 02:01:28,750 --> 02:01:27,830 political political activist you're in 2668 02:01:31,930 --> 02:01:28,760 the game you 2669 02:01:35,949 --> 02:01:31,940 with a schedule is bar none 2670 02:01:40,629 --> 02:01:35,959 it's what you do so yeah but still 2671 02:01:42,729 --> 02:01:40,639 joking aside how have you not been a 2672 02:01:48,129 --> 02:01:42,739 target at this point because you know 2673 02:01:51,100 --> 02:01:48,139 Steven Greer is and it probably one of 2674 02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:51,110 the most prolific with yourself you're 2675 02:01:59,080 --> 02:01:55,610 like the rationalist side of more of the 2676 02:02:00,489 --> 02:01:59,090 open-minded yang to your yang as it were 2677 02:02:03,129 --> 02:02:00,499 within that within the disclosure 2678 02:02:04,509 --> 02:02:03,139 movement because you are so prolific and 2679 02:02:06,129 --> 02:02:04,519 you're dealing directly with the 2680 02:02:07,779 --> 02:02:06,139 politicians that the power brokers the 2681 02:02:10,569 --> 02:02:07,789 people who well the people who at least 2682 02:02:14,259 --> 02:02:10,579 get told what to do by by the special 2683 02:02:19,629 --> 02:02:14,269 interest as it were like you're still 2684 02:02:21,149 --> 02:02:19,639 doing it how have you not had it can 2685 02:02:24,100 --> 02:02:21,159 heaven forbid something happen to you or 2686 02:02:26,709 --> 02:02:24,110 you know you know let's say that you 2687 02:02:29,500 --> 02:02:26,719 know like you the the the car or as they 2688 02:02:30,850 --> 02:02:29,510 do in Russia you know accidents happened 2689 02:02:32,140 --> 02:02:30,860 with twenty three-story buildings but 2690 02:02:33,759 --> 02:02:32,150 you have two bullets in the back of your 2691 02:02:35,169 --> 02:02:33,769 head there's some of their lawmakers and 2692 02:02:39,669 --> 02:02:35,179 whatever how was it not happen to you 2693 02:02:43,930 --> 02:02:39,679 because like it's it's it's impressive 2694 02:02:45,669 --> 02:02:43,940 to me and at the same time it is telling 2695 02:02:47,770 --> 02:02:45,679 that it's like you're at a point now to 2696 02:02:50,319 --> 02:02:47,780 me that you have like you're untouchable 2697 02:02:53,850 --> 02:02:50,329 at least at least in my opinion well 2698 02:03:05,200 --> 02:02:59,430 political activism is complicated and 2699 02:03:13,690 --> 02:03:08,050 on an infinite but a very large number 2700 02:03:16,950 --> 02:03:13,700 of ways you can go about it and one has 2701 02:03:20,230 --> 02:03:16,960 to make a decision about which 2702 02:03:24,990 --> 02:03:20,240 approaches they take which buttons they 2703 02:03:28,450 --> 02:03:25,000 push and so forth now some activists 2704 02:03:31,420 --> 02:03:28,460 actually deliberately go out of their 2705 02:03:34,060 --> 02:03:31,430 way to push the most dangerous buttons 2706 02:03:36,670 --> 02:03:34,070 and conduct themselves in way to be the 2707 02:03:38,800 --> 02:03:36,680 most inflaming it's almost as if they 2708 02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:38,810 will they want they want a draconian 2709 02:03:43,630 --> 02:03:42,650 response which is to say they kind of 2710 02:03:45,910 --> 02:03:43,640 got a martyr complex 2711 02:03:48,030 --> 02:03:45,920 I mean look they'll martyr the classic 2712 02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:48,040 what jihadist martyr is the ultimate 2713 02:03:51,880 --> 02:03:50,690 activist in the sense of an in accra 2714 02:03:55,650 --> 02:03:51,890 guard meaning you know I'm just gonna 2715 02:03:58,150 --> 02:03:55,660 kill myself and for the cause right so 2716 02:03:59,980 --> 02:03:58,160 but you know to me that's a mistake I 2717 02:04:07,660 --> 02:03:59,990 mean if you can't be effective if you're 2718 02:04:10,270 --> 02:04:07,670 dead and so I have I have taken an 2719 02:04:13,540 --> 02:04:10,280 approach to this which was carefully 2720 02:04:16,650 --> 02:04:13,550 designed to try to be effective without 2721 02:04:22,290 --> 02:04:16,660 pushing the wrong buttons without 2722 02:04:25,960 --> 02:04:22,300 unnecessarily creating blowback or 2723 02:04:26,410 --> 02:04:25,970 countermeasures and it's generally 2724 02:04:30,760 --> 02:04:26,420 worked 2725 02:04:32,890 --> 02:04:30,770 I mean look yeah it's all a matter of 2726 02:04:34,480 --> 02:04:32,900 what you say when you say it and where 2727 02:04:36,580 --> 02:04:34,490 you say it and what you do and so forth 2728 02:04:38,230 --> 02:04:36,590 I mean say you don't like bikers you 2729 02:04:39,880 --> 02:04:38,240 don't like two Hells Angels okay fine so 2730 02:04:41,560 --> 02:04:39,890 you could walk into a biker bar go up to 2731 02:04:46,090 --> 02:04:41,570 the first Hells Angel and call him a 2732 02:04:48,280 --> 02:04:46,100 girly man you've certainly you certainly 2733 02:04:49,810 --> 02:04:48,290 made your point right you've expressed 2734 02:04:51,730 --> 02:04:49,820 your you know just like and 2735 02:04:56,020 --> 02:04:51,740 what-have-you right that's not gonna 2736 02:04:59,080 --> 02:04:56,030 work out well for you so I first of all 2737 02:05:00,580 --> 02:04:59,090 from the very beginning I made it pretty 2738 02:05:02,380 --> 02:05:00,590 clear I wasn't gonna hide things I 2739 02:05:05,200 --> 02:05:02,390 wasn't gonna be secret it wasn't going 2740 02:05:07,120 --> 02:05:05,210 to be underground everything's will be 2741 02:05:08,820 --> 02:05:07,130 out in the open tap my phone whoever you 2742 02:05:11,560 --> 02:05:08,830 want and they have I had tapped my phone 2743 02:05:13,420 --> 02:05:11,570 on more than a few occasions that I know 2744 02:05:14,740 --> 02:05:13,430 about I mean it was pretty obvious it 2745 02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:14,750 could be it's always tap I don't know 2746 02:05:19,700 --> 02:05:16,490 but I don't care they're welcome to 2747 02:05:27,140 --> 02:05:23,580 why because if they know what you're 2748 02:05:29,340 --> 02:05:27,150 doing then you're much less of a threat 2749 02:05:31,890 --> 02:05:29,350 where people get worried is when they 2750 02:05:34,370 --> 02:05:31,900 don't know what you're doing then they 2751 02:05:36,660 --> 02:05:34,380 have to consider all possibilities 2752 02:05:38,459 --> 02:05:36,670 that's a reason I have got spine during 2753 02:05:40,410 --> 02:05:38,469 the Cold War well one of the reasons we 2754 02:05:41,850 --> 02:05:40,420 didn't have a Cold War is because of the 2755 02:05:44,669 --> 02:05:41,860 very good spying on the part of the 2756 02:05:46,260 --> 02:05:44,679 Soviets and the United States and of 2757 02:05:47,669 --> 02:05:46,270 course if a spy gets caught the executor 2758 02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:47,679 but the irony of course is that without 2759 02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:49,810 them we'd had a war because if the 2760 02:05:56,430 --> 02:05:51,610 Soviets and the United States had not 2761 02:05:58,050 --> 02:05:56,440 been able to to spy and understand as 2762 02:06:00,720 --> 02:05:58,060 much as possible what the other was 2763 02:06:02,669 --> 02:06:00,730 doing they would had to guess what the 2764 02:06:04,290 --> 02:06:02,679 other was doing and their paranoia would 2765 02:06:06,750 --> 02:06:04,300 take over and the next thing you know 2766 02:06:10,130 --> 02:06:06,760 somebody burps and and the rockets go 2767 02:06:12,209 --> 02:06:10,140 off so that's the first thing secondly I 2768 02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:12,219 didn't criminalize the government on 2769 02:06:17,189 --> 02:06:15,610 this I certainly did criminalized the 2770 02:06:20,910 --> 02:06:17,199 the people that started the truth 2771 02:06:22,950 --> 02:06:20,920 embargo post-world War two I did and I 2772 02:06:26,910 --> 02:06:22,960 and I and I actually am pretty much 2773 02:06:28,470 --> 02:06:26,920 responsible for changing the language in 2774 02:06:30,689 --> 02:06:28,480 a number of respects the most important 2775 02:06:33,180 --> 02:06:30,699 being that when I entered the field 95 2776 02:06:36,050 --> 02:06:33,190 was all about the truth embargo I'm 2777 02:06:38,340 --> 02:06:36,060 sorry it was all about the UFO cover-up 2778 02:06:39,959 --> 02:06:38,350 UFO cover-up was the phrase used over 2779 02:06:40,740 --> 02:06:39,969 and over and over again and I said it's 2780 02:06:43,020 --> 02:06:40,750 not a cover-up 2781 02:06:44,729 --> 02:06:43,030 and it's not about UFOs it's about 2782 02:06:47,669 --> 02:06:44,739 extraterrestrials and it's not a 2783 02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:47,679 cover-up because a cover-up is hiding an 2784 02:06:52,729 --> 02:06:50,890 illegal act it's not in a conspiracy a 2785 02:06:55,290 --> 02:06:52,739 conspiracy is two or more people 2786 02:06:58,470 --> 02:06:55,300 conspiring to commit eeling illegal act 2787 02:07:00,180 --> 02:06:58,480 six people getting together to cook up a 2788 02:07:02,580 --> 02:07:00,190 surprise birthday party is not a 2789 02:07:04,050 --> 02:07:02,590 conspiracy I mean if people assuming 2790 02:07:06,209 --> 02:07:04,060 people use language the way it was 2791 02:07:09,510 --> 02:07:06,219 written in to find and so it's not a 2792 02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:09,520 conspiracy it's not a cover-up and it's 2793 02:07:14,100 --> 02:07:11,770 not about UFOs it is a truth embargo 2794 02:07:18,870 --> 02:07:14,110 about the extra-terrestrial presence and 2795 02:07:20,340 --> 02:07:18,880 so again you know if you I mean if you 2796 02:07:22,410 --> 02:07:20,350 just want to irritate the government 2797 02:07:24,060 --> 02:07:22,420 yeah call them all criminals and evil 2798 02:07:26,280 --> 02:07:24,070 and demons and everything and hell 2799 02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:26,290 because they're not and the policy 2800 02:07:32,130 --> 02:07:29,770 wasn't criminal and so I took that tact 2801 02:07:33,630 --> 02:07:32,140 and I'm sure it was appreciated 2802 02:07:34,830 --> 02:07:33,640 right by those inside cuz there's plenty 2803 02:07:36,390 --> 02:07:34,840 great people work for the government 2804 02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:36,400 work for the Pentagon work for the CIA 2805 02:07:40,560 --> 02:07:38,410 and it's a pick'em so I think most of 2806 02:07:42,180 --> 02:07:40,570 them pretty good people and they and 2807 02:07:44,610 --> 02:07:42,190 their desire is that the country be safe 2808 02:07:47,370 --> 02:07:44,620 and and if you want you go to work for 2809 02:07:48,990 --> 02:07:47,380 these agencies you know you you are you 2810 02:07:51,270 --> 02:07:49,000 are part of that agency and it's passed 2811 02:07:53,070 --> 02:07:51,280 and if that agency has been involved in 2812 02:07:56,160 --> 02:07:53,080 a lot of things fine but you didn't you 2813 02:07:58,100 --> 02:07:56,170 weren't there so that's another approach 2814 02:08:02,570 --> 02:07:58,110 um 2815 02:08:07,830 --> 02:08:02,580 secondly I didn't make stuff up in lie 2816 02:08:09,390 --> 02:08:07,840 right and they respect that so you know 2817 02:08:11,550 --> 02:08:09,400 of the list of people they might want to 2818 02:08:12,420 --> 02:08:11,560 give a hard time to I am not near the 2819 02:08:14,520 --> 02:08:12,430 top of that list 2820 02:08:16,230 --> 02:08:14,530 now the Clintons don't like me I assure 2821 02:08:18,660 --> 02:08:16,240 you the Clintons I've been driving them 2822 02:08:21,540 --> 02:08:18,670 crazy for years but now the Clintons 2823 02:08:23,730 --> 02:08:21,550 right I mean if I'd much rather have 2824 02:08:25,260 --> 02:08:23,740 them angry at me than the CIA really 2825 02:08:26,970 --> 02:08:25,270 angry 2826 02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:26,980 and I definitely don't want the Kremlin 2827 02:08:30,870 --> 02:08:28,570 angry I mean the point is is that is 2828 02:08:33,710 --> 02:08:30,880 that yeah I really push their buttons 2829 02:08:36,630 --> 02:08:33,720 but I again I did it within certain 2830 02:08:38,430 --> 02:08:36,640 boundaries you've got people in the net 2831 02:08:40,980 --> 02:08:38,440 didn't make all kinds of statement about 2832 02:08:43,440 --> 02:08:40,990 politicians Clinton's Barack Obama Trump 2833 02:08:44,280 --> 02:08:43,450 all of them which are not true but it's 2834 02:08:45,390 --> 02:08:44,290 just they're just trying to get 2835 02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:45,400 attention so they call them all 2836 02:08:50,940 --> 02:08:48,130 murderers liars demons whatever right 2837 02:08:53,640 --> 02:08:50,950 well you know that's not good 2838 02:08:56,430 --> 02:08:53,650 it's not good advocacy it may be good 2839 02:08:57,990 --> 02:08:56,440 trolling right and that they may come 2840 02:09:01,050 --> 02:08:58,000 when the trolls are on the whole damn 2841 02:09:01,680 --> 02:09:01,060 place right who knows you know as I say 2842 02:09:03,600 --> 02:09:01,690 dying 2843 02:09:06,870 --> 02:09:03,610 all right death comes in many forms all 2844 02:09:09,170 --> 02:09:06,880 right so that is the best explanation I 2845 02:09:14,610 --> 02:09:09,180 can give for why I have never been 2846 02:09:16,650 --> 02:09:14,620 threatened harassed intimidated whatever 2847 02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:16,660 by the United States government or 2848 02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:20,890 anybody in it I've been I've gotten some 2849 02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:22,690 people that UFO feel don't like me or 2850 02:09:27,090 --> 02:09:24,810 the et feel don't like me that's okay 2851 02:09:30,060 --> 02:09:27,100 that's the reason Grier I can't speak 2852 02:09:31,500 --> 02:09:30,070 for he is he is talked about being 2853 02:09:34,380 --> 02:09:31,510 arrest and threatened and a lot of that 2854 02:09:37,620 --> 02:09:34,390 and so I will assume that if that's true 2855 02:09:39,420 --> 02:09:37,630 that the way he's conducting his 2856 02:09:42,060 --> 02:09:39,430 advocacy is a little more irritating and 2857 02:09:45,060 --> 02:09:42,070 has pressed some buttons that I haven't 2858 02:09:48,600 --> 02:09:45,070 impressed now I'm gonna 2859 02:09:50,129 --> 02:09:48,610 a name and this is being from I'm just 2860 02:09:54,149 --> 02:09:50,139 gonna be able to scroll up here just so 2861 02:09:57,990 --> 02:09:54,159 I get the the question person correct 2862 02:10:02,129 --> 02:09:58,000 and I believe it may be bull bull 2863 02:10:04,410 --> 02:10:02,139 disease no you YouTube user names are 2864 02:10:05,819 --> 02:10:04,420 sometimes on the unpronounceable side 2865 02:10:08,339 --> 02:10:05,829 and I don't have my glasses I don't know 2866 02:10:11,819 --> 02:10:08,349 I don't know YouTube user names trust me 2867 02:10:14,479 --> 02:10:11,829 no idea the big name that I've been 2868 02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:14,489 hearing in chat has been Larry Nichols 2869 02:10:20,370 --> 02:10:17,050 which is related to the Clintons and 2870 02:10:23,550 --> 02:10:20,380 again we all know that they're like 2871 02:10:24,780 --> 02:10:23,560 we're talking pre the sort of the 2872 02:10:26,370 --> 02:10:24,790 Rockefeller timeline we should be able 2873 02:10:28,919 --> 02:10:26,380 like oh yeah I know you're talking about 2874 02:10:31,080 --> 02:10:28,929 yep it is is that related in any way to 2875 02:10:33,660 --> 02:10:31,090 to this disclosure movement or a 2876 02:10:35,010 --> 02:10:33,670 completely different completely 2877 02:10:37,589 --> 02:10:35,020 different individual completely 2878 02:10:40,589 --> 02:10:37,599 different story different different 2879 02:10:42,379 --> 02:10:40,599 subject Sarah my radar Clint Nichols 2880 02:10:46,560 --> 02:10:42,389 came forward with a lot of extremely 2881 02:10:50,260 --> 02:10:46,570 damning assertions about the Clintons 2882 02:10:55,810 --> 02:10:50,270 and it's part of the 2883 02:10:59,260 --> 02:10:55,820 what we'll call the anti-clinton the 2884 02:11:01,870 --> 02:10:59,270 anti-clinton history and barack obama 2885 02:11:05,100 --> 02:11:01,880 had the same thing and trump certainly 2886 02:11:07,680 --> 02:11:05,110 has the same thing and beyond that i 2887 02:11:10,120 --> 02:11:07,690 that's all right that's all I've got 2888 02:11:13,620 --> 02:11:10,130 whether it's true not true I'm not 2889 02:11:16,510 --> 02:11:13,630 positioned to say now Clinton is 2890 02:11:18,220 --> 02:11:16,520 probably the only president that I know 2891 02:11:21,700 --> 02:11:18,230 of that it's gone on record at least in 2892 02:11:24,670 --> 02:11:21,710 the last 20 years that has gone on 2893 02:11:28,120 --> 02:11:24,680 national TV to actually admit that he 2894 02:11:30,040 --> 02:11:28,130 was or at least he asked about area 51 2895 02:11:31,600 --> 02:11:30,050 he asked for the information and it came 2896 02:11:33,550 --> 02:11:31,610 in he's that it came back with nothing 2897 02:11:36,490 --> 02:11:33,560 and now that at the point in time that 2898 02:11:40,030 --> 02:11:36,500 he had stated this you know he wasn't in 2899 02:11:42,580 --> 02:11:40,040 power his wife obviously was was you at 2900 02:11:44,350 --> 02:11:42,590 least having aspirations of political 2901 02:11:45,820 --> 02:11:44,360 hype she wishes she was running for 2902 02:11:48,640 --> 02:11:45,830 office yeah yeah she was a candidate 2903 02:11:50,680 --> 02:11:48,650 when he said it do you think that that 2904 02:11:52,600 --> 02:11:50,690 was more of an appeasement to the 2905 02:11:55,360 --> 02:11:52,610 disclosure movements or do you think 2906 02:11:56,680 --> 02:11:55,370 that he honestly but do you think this 2907 02:11:58,680 --> 02:11:56,690 attitude was Hillary you need to be able 2908 02:12:00,820 --> 02:11:58,690 to actually tell the truth on this or 2909 02:12:03,760 --> 02:12:00,830 like well what do you think his angle 2910 02:12:05,350 --> 02:12:03,770 was on that first we don't know the 2911 02:12:07,540 --> 02:12:05,360 thinking behind your strata and the 2912 02:12:11,770 --> 02:12:07,550 actual thinking behind your strategy 2913 02:12:13,990 --> 02:12:11,780 they don't tell me that but what if if 2914 02:12:17,380 --> 02:12:14,000 if if your viewer listener will go to 2915 02:12:20,110 --> 02:12:17,390 paradigm research group org paradigm 2916 02:12:23,320 --> 02:12:20,120 research group org over on the left side 2917 02:12:27,190 --> 02:12:23,330 is a link to Clinton ET connection media 2918 02:12:29,410 --> 02:12:27,200 coverage if they go to that page they 2919 02:12:30,670 --> 02:12:29,420 will see hundreds of the articles they 2920 02:12:31,750 --> 02:12:30,680 can link to hundreds of the articles 2921 02:12:34,960 --> 02:12:31,760 were written about the Clinton UT 2922 02:12:37,380 --> 02:12:34,970 connection and they can see we have 2923 02:12:41,950 --> 02:12:37,390 there's links to all the 12 occasions 2924 02:12:45,640 --> 02:12:41,960 where either she or John Podesta or Bill 2925 02:12:47,920 --> 02:12:45,650 Clinton or Barack Obama went public with 2926 02:12:51,910 --> 02:12:47,930 statements in either interviews like on 2927 02:12:52,300 --> 02:12:51,920 the Jimmy Kimmel show or to CNN or what 2928 02:12:55,570 --> 02:12:52,310 have you 2929 02:12:58,960 --> 02:12:55,580 on the et issue and all of those 2930 02:13:02,770 --> 02:12:58,970 statements were that all of those 2931 02:13:04,250 --> 02:13:02,780 statements were directly because PR G's 2932 02:13:07,100 --> 02:13:04,260 political initiative 2933 02:13:09,110 --> 02:13:07,110 was putting so much media pressure on 2934 02:13:11,390 --> 02:13:09,120 them they were getting calls from 2935 02:13:14,630 --> 02:13:11,400 reporters going all the way back to 2936 02:13:16,010 --> 02:13:14,640 January of 2015 what is your comment on 2937 02:13:17,780 --> 02:13:16,020 this article what is your comment on the 2938 02:13:19,370 --> 02:13:17,790 Rockefeller initiative and they would 2939 02:13:21,770 --> 02:13:19,380 not return their calls they stonewalled 2940 02:13:23,570 --> 02:13:21,780 them including Amy chose us of the New 2941 02:13:25,100 --> 02:13:23,580 York Times who states in the very 2942 02:13:27,110 --> 02:13:25,110 article we contacted them they didn't 2943 02:13:28,610 --> 02:13:27,120 come back to us and so they knew that 2944 02:13:30,290 --> 02:13:28,620 the story was in play and they didn't 2945 02:13:33,530 --> 02:13:30,300 know whether it would catch fire and go 2946 02:13:36,340 --> 02:13:33,540 nuclear or not and so these statements 2947 02:13:38,660 --> 02:13:36,350 were being made as a way of of 2948 02:13:40,220 --> 02:13:38,670 inoculating himself against a possible 2949 02:13:41,990 --> 02:13:40,230 breakout down the line so they'd have 2950 02:13:43,310 --> 02:13:42,000 the cookie crumbs they could show oh 2951 02:13:46,010 --> 02:13:43,320 yeah yeah yeah we were talking about it 2952 02:13:47,450 --> 02:13:46,020 right and but it was carefully what they 2953 02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:47,460 said some of which was not true they 2954 02:13:51,740 --> 02:13:50,010 would kind of twist it around but in 2955 02:13:54,470 --> 02:13:51,750 order to avoid minimize again the 2956 02:13:57,050 --> 02:13:54,480 potential for a major break out all of 2957 02:14:00,170 --> 02:13:57,060 those appearances were orchestrated and 2958 02:14:02,630 --> 02:14:00,180 a response to that media and and the 2959 02:14:05,050 --> 02:14:02,640 whole idea was inoculate ourselves 2960 02:14:08,210 --> 02:14:05,060 against the issue but don't say too much 2961 02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:08,220 so because we're afraid that the et 2962 02:14:13,400 --> 02:14:11,010 issue if it comes out in a big way will 2963 02:14:16,430 --> 02:14:13,410 hurt our chances to be president in what 2964 02:14:19,910 --> 02:14:16,440 mrs. Clinton and what John Podesta never 2965 02:14:22,550 --> 02:14:19,920 understood is that speaking to the et 2966 02:14:24,530 --> 02:14:22,560 issue was that only was the thing that 2967 02:14:26,240 --> 02:14:24,540 was going to make her president and not 2968 02:14:28,460 --> 02:14:26,250 speaking to it would just be one more 2969 02:14:29,150 --> 02:14:28,470 nail in her coffin and that's why I say 2970 02:14:30,560 --> 02:14:29,160 it was one of the great political 2971 02:14:34,790 --> 02:14:30,570 mistakes in American presidential 2972 02:14:38,570 --> 02:14:34,800 election history and for your 2973 02:14:42,770 --> 02:14:38,580 understanding when it comes to media do 2974 02:14:44,750 --> 02:14:42,780 you think that people like Kimmel is 2975 02:14:46,640 --> 02:14:44,760 this orchestrated on his side or does he 2976 02:14:47,960 --> 02:14:46,650 actually believe we're or do you know or 2977 02:14:52,310 --> 02:14:47,970 is it something that you can even 2978 02:14:55,790 --> 02:14:52,320 speculate on look Hillary Clinton Bill 2979 02:14:58,430 --> 02:14:55,800 Clinton goes on Kimmel Barak Obama goes 2980 02:15:01,370 --> 02:14:58,440 on Kimmel and Hillary Clinton goes on 2981 02:15:02,530 --> 02:15:01,380 Kimmel and he asked them all exactly the 2982 02:15:06,440 --> 02:15:02,540 same question 2983 02:15:11,960 --> 02:15:06,450 you think that's an accident right no 2984 02:15:15,350 --> 02:15:11,970 way and so what happened I'm sure is 2985 02:15:17,300 --> 02:15:15,360 entitled away when people at that level 2986 02:15:18,110 --> 02:15:17,310 presidents and ex presidents and so 2987 02:15:20,180 --> 02:15:18,120 forth 2988 02:15:22,430 --> 02:15:20,190 go on a late-night talk show like Jimmy 2989 02:15:25,160 --> 02:15:22,440 Kimmel they just don't show up and then 2990 02:15:27,170 --> 02:15:25,170 Jimmy just asked them some questions the 2991 02:15:29,870 --> 02:15:27,180 what's gonna be asked is discussed in 2992 02:15:32,420 --> 02:15:29,880 advance right there aren't there's no 2993 02:15:34,070 --> 02:15:32,430 surprises right maybe the ones they get 2994 02:15:35,870 --> 02:15:34,080 into a dialogue something might pop but 2995 02:15:37,700 --> 02:15:35,880 overall this is planned in advance and 2996 02:15:39,470 --> 02:15:37,710 probably even scheduled by them in 2997 02:15:40,580 --> 02:15:39,480 advance in other words they call up km 2998 02:15:42,740 --> 02:15:40,590 own saying look we'd like to do a show 2999 02:15:44,510 --> 02:15:42,750 and such and so fine you got it all 3000 02:15:46,400 --> 02:15:44,520 right and so essentially they use the 3001 02:15:48,200 --> 02:15:46,410 Kindle eat whatever he's in the Kimmel 3002 02:15:50,900 --> 02:15:48,210 show whether he is it shouldn't issue or 3003 02:15:52,700 --> 02:15:50,910 not well their attitude was look yeah if 3004 02:15:55,310 --> 02:15:52,710 you want to come on great and you want 3005 02:15:57,020 --> 02:15:55,320 us to ask the you know your husband or 3006 02:15:59,570 --> 02:15:57,030 you want you know mr. Clinton you want 3007 02:16:01,460 --> 02:15:59,580 you emits probably some person working 3008 02:16:02,930 --> 02:16:01,470 for them you want me to ask the former 3009 02:16:05,810 --> 02:16:02,940 President Clinton about the et issue 3010 02:16:08,720 --> 02:16:05,820 okay you want me to have Secretary 3011 02:16:11,120 --> 02:16:08,730 Clinton about DT okay and so he was just 3012 02:16:12,680 --> 02:16:11,130 you know playing ball and you see how 3013 02:16:14,180 --> 02:16:12,690 it's a relatively controlled environment 3014 02:16:15,380 --> 02:16:14,190 now if they were to sit down for a one 3015 02:16:17,090 --> 02:16:15,390 and a half hour interview with a New 3016 02:16:18,590 --> 02:16:17,100 York Times reporter on this you know 3017 02:16:20,240 --> 02:16:18,600 where that would go don't you and so 3018 02:16:23,660 --> 02:16:20,250 that's exactly what was going on 3019 02:16:24,890 --> 02:16:23,670 orchestrated carefully I talked about it 3020 02:16:28,310 --> 02:16:24,900 showed that it's serious don't go too 3021 02:16:30,500 --> 02:16:28,320 far because we don't want the to be 3022 02:16:35,120 --> 02:16:30,510 tinfoil hat it and lose the election 3023 02:16:38,050 --> 02:16:35,130 this was the tremendous error that John 3024 02:16:41,870 --> 02:16:38,060 Podesta made as he strategized her path 3025 02:16:46,040 --> 02:16:41,880 to the White House and not surprisingly 3026 02:16:52,250 --> 02:16:46,050 given her history the era was a truth 3027 02:16:55,129 --> 02:16:52,260 era it was white lies or half-truths 3028 02:16:56,919 --> 02:16:55,139 versus the actual truth any time when 3029 02:17:00,459 --> 02:16:56,929 the people of this country are 3030 02:17:03,189 --> 02:17:00,469 absolutely fed up with lies 3031 02:17:08,330 --> 02:17:03,199 disinformation 3032 02:17:10,399 --> 02:17:08,340 propaganda its stonewalling he spit into 3033 02:17:11,839 --> 02:17:10,409 the face of the tiger and the tiger ate 3034 02:17:15,169 --> 02:17:11,849 him and he's probably still sitting 3035 02:17:16,910 --> 02:17:15,179 there wondering what happened now people 3036 02:17:18,559 --> 02:17:16,920 are saying and I've heard it through 3037 02:17:21,439 --> 02:17:18,569 reddit I've heard it through even our 3038 02:17:24,259 --> 02:17:21,449 own chat that the idea of Hillary 3039 02:17:25,459 --> 02:17:24,269 winning or losing came down to the way 3040 02:17:29,030 --> 02:17:25,469 that she treated a lot of the swing 3041 02:17:34,610 --> 02:17:29,040 states that that Trump won the Rust Belt 3042 02:17:36,530 --> 02:17:34,620 is is it one in the same either or is it 3043 02:17:40,360 --> 02:17:36,540 a fact that there was a general contempt 3044 02:17:43,129 --> 02:17:40,370 for the voters and the public that's and 3045 02:17:45,439 --> 02:17:43,139 what's your take on that when you lose 3046 02:17:48,229 --> 02:17:45,449 an election that close same for Al Gore 3047 02:17:52,070 --> 02:17:48,239 in 2000 there's a hundred reasons why 3048 02:17:55,339 --> 02:17:52,080 you lost and Naughton is probably in 3049 02:17:56,870 --> 02:17:55,349 that hundred reasons a good ten where if 3050 02:17:59,089 --> 02:17:56,880 you flip the switch the other way on any 3051 02:18:00,910 --> 02:17:59,099 one of those ten you win and so you 3052 02:18:03,290 --> 02:18:00,920 can't ascribe the laws to any one thing 3053 02:18:05,089 --> 02:18:03,300 yeah it's easy it's convenient and 3054 02:18:07,519 --> 02:18:05,099 that's where you're gonna pick the thing 3055 02:18:08,870 --> 02:18:07,529 which makes you look the best right in 3056 02:18:12,349 --> 02:18:08,880 other words if you can pick something 3057 02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:12,359 that's wrong or illegal like the Russian 3058 02:18:15,290 --> 02:18:14,010 hack of the Podesta files and so forth 3059 02:18:16,429 --> 02:18:15,300 you're gonna go with that you're not 3060 02:18:19,339 --> 02:18:16,439 gonna pick something that's completely 3061 02:18:20,540 --> 02:18:19,349 your fault but I sure there's dozens and 3062 02:18:23,030 --> 02:18:20,550 dozens of reasons why she lost that 3063 02:18:27,679 --> 02:18:23,040 election and it does ultimately doesn't 3064 02:18:31,740 --> 02:18:27,689 matter which one you you focus on it's 3065 02:18:34,780 --> 02:18:33,609 do you think there's a chance that she 3066 02:18:35,799 --> 02:18:34,790 could run again or do you think that 3067 02:18:39,309 --> 02:18:35,809 it's it's done 3068 02:18:42,569 --> 02:18:39,319 like her her chances are over yeah no 3069 02:18:44,589 --> 02:18:42,579 there's no chance that she can run again 3070 02:18:51,690 --> 02:18:44,599 however there is a chance she could be 3071 02:18:58,560 --> 02:18:55,259 if you project out the the circumstances 3072 02:19:00,240 --> 02:18:58,570 now underway in terms of the multiple 3073 02:19:05,009 --> 02:19:00,250 investigations and what's being revealed 3074 02:19:09,330 --> 02:19:05,019 if you project it out one possible 3075 02:19:11,690 --> 02:19:09,340 outcome then it's not tiny probability 3076 02:19:16,669 --> 02:19:11,700 and it's a measurable probability is 3077 02:19:20,429 --> 02:19:16,679 that it will be concluded by a 3078 02:19:25,759 --> 02:19:20,439 significant number of legal minds in the 3079 02:19:33,719 --> 02:19:25,769 country that the election is fraud and 3080 02:19:35,640 --> 02:19:33,729 therefore is totally invalid and if 3081 02:19:39,870 --> 02:19:35,650 that's the case they will file a lawsuit 3082 02:19:43,410 --> 02:19:39,880 and that lawsuit will quickly move to 3083 02:19:45,270 --> 02:19:43,420 the Supreme Court and the basis that 3084 02:19:48,719 --> 02:19:45,280 lawsuit will be this the election was 3085 02:19:52,290 --> 02:19:48,729 invalid and therefore the president is 3086 02:19:54,990 --> 02:19:52,300 invalid and the remedy right there's 3087 02:19:59,160 --> 02:19:55,000 only two possible remedies should the 3088 02:20:03,270 --> 02:19:59,170 court agree and that is that a new 3089 02:20:06,750 --> 02:20:03,280 election is held from scratch or that 3090 02:20:10,830 --> 02:20:06,760 the other candidate that was harmed by 3091 02:20:13,740 --> 02:20:10,840 the circumstances of the election would 3092 02:20:15,870 --> 02:20:13,750 then be given the presidency those are 3093 02:20:18,750 --> 02:20:15,880 the two outcomes now if another election 3094 02:20:23,460 --> 02:20:18,760 was held would she run for that that is 3095 02:20:25,890 --> 02:20:23,470 a much more complicated question and I 3096 02:20:27,300 --> 02:20:25,900 can't answer that one but again under 3097 02:20:28,620 --> 02:20:27,310 that circumstance the potential were to 3098 02:20:31,500 --> 02:20:28,630 become president is definitely there 3099 02:20:32,670 --> 02:20:31,510 again and people some people will be 3100 02:20:35,100 --> 02:20:32,680 hearing that and going are you out of 3101 02:20:38,820 --> 02:20:35,110 your mind and all I can say to them is I 3102 02:20:40,950 --> 02:20:38,830 know it's a valid criticism but you're 3103 02:20:42,750 --> 02:20:40,960 not paying close enough attention you're 3104 02:20:45,480 --> 02:20:42,760 not seeing what's going on 3105 02:20:47,090 --> 02:20:45,490 you're not thinking it through all right 3106 02:20:52,469 --> 02:20:47,100 that's firecrackers don't worry about it 3107 02:20:55,260 --> 02:20:52,479 you're not seeing it through so believe 3108 02:20:56,700 --> 02:20:55,270 me it's not an impossibility but that's 3109 02:20:57,630 --> 02:20:56,710 how bad it is and that's how bad it's 3110 02:21:04,450 --> 02:20:57,640 going to go get it's going to get to 3111 02:21:13,160 --> 02:21:07,660 Tom DeLonge I'm gonna bring this up I 3112 02:21:17,179 --> 02:21:13,170 grew up with with Tom's music again I 3113 02:21:19,340 --> 02:21:17,189 even heard a very shitty EDM remix of 3114 02:21:20,719 --> 02:21:19,350 all the small things around Canada today 3115 02:21:24,170 --> 02:21:20,729 I think it was actually the day before 3116 02:21:26,719 --> 02:21:24,180 Canada today and I'm like well they're 3117 02:21:28,370 --> 02:21:26,729 still making money because their 3118 02:21:29,840 --> 02:21:28,380 licensing out those songs which gives 3119 02:21:31,160 --> 02:21:29,850 him the freedom to do pretty well 3120 02:21:33,650 --> 02:21:31,170 whatever the hell he wants at this point 3121 02:21:35,179 --> 02:21:33,660 he's always been Punk whether he sold 3122 02:21:41,510 --> 02:21:35,189 out or not 3123 02:21:44,150 --> 02:21:41,520 my big thing is credibility you with me 3124 02:21:46,040 --> 02:21:44,160 have credibility if Steve Bassett says 3125 02:21:48,559 --> 02:21:46,050 something I pay attention because I know 3126 02:21:50,900 --> 02:21:48,569 that you're somebody who has been 3127 02:21:52,670 --> 02:21:50,910 working his ass off and walking up and 3128 02:21:55,099 --> 02:21:52,680 down the halls of Washington to get some 3129 02:21:57,469 --> 02:21:55,109 damned results and for anybody who's 3130 02:21:59,270 --> 02:21:57,479 looking for disclosure you know like 3131 02:22:01,190 --> 02:21:59,280 he's in California at the moment but the 3132 02:22:03,530 --> 02:22:01,200 man travels the globe and goes around DC 3133 02:22:05,990 --> 02:22:03,540 to actually do the work you can't do 3134 02:22:07,610 --> 02:22:06,000 anything but respect that what it comes 3135 02:22:09,710 --> 02:22:07,620 with yeah but you know it needs more 3136 02:22:11,900 --> 02:22:09,720 than just respect it needs funding it's 3137 02:22:13,820 --> 02:22:11,910 well that's the thing you can never dime 3138 02:22:15,500 --> 02:22:13,830 research group dot org no fund me link 3139 02:22:16,790 --> 02:22:15,510 is right down at the bottom and you know 3140 02:22:17,900 --> 02:22:16,800 that that's that's the big thing and 3141 02:22:18,950 --> 02:22:17,910 that that's one of the reasons what we 3142 02:22:20,270 --> 02:22:18,960 have you on the show is to make sure 3143 02:22:22,160 --> 02:22:20,280 that you have the resources to be able 3144 02:22:24,050 --> 02:22:22,170 just just like we asked our listeners to 3145 02:22:26,389 --> 02:22:24,060 help us with the resources so that I 3146 02:22:29,420 --> 02:22:26,399 don't have to use you know our our Skype 3147 02:22:31,130 --> 02:22:29,430 conversation to cover up the the massive 3148 02:22:33,139 --> 02:22:31,140 hole I have from a curtain falling I'm 3149 02:22:34,250 --> 02:22:33,149 actually used a double sided tape to 3150 02:22:35,960 --> 02:22:34,260 hold that up today and it fell down 3151 02:22:40,070 --> 02:22:35,970 that's what we deal with in terms of 3152 02:22:42,500 --> 02:22:40,080 humidity here whatever works so the joke 3153 02:22:44,240 --> 02:22:42,510 with Tom DeLonge is that okay well you 3154 02:22:46,670 --> 02:22:44,250 know we're waiting for disclosure oh I 3155 02:22:48,320 --> 02:22:46,680 hear that tom is gonna be released 3156 02:22:50,900 --> 02:22:48,330 releasing his information and I'll just 3157 02:22:51,440 --> 02:22:50,910 hold my phone up like this it's like any 3158 02:22:52,730 --> 02:22:51,450 minute now 3159 02:22:54,860 --> 02:22:52,740 and I'll do that for like a couple of 3160 02:22:56,840 --> 02:22:54,870 minutes because he's at least to me it 3161 02:22:58,910 --> 02:22:56,850 seems like he's pushed it back so many 3162 02:23:00,320 --> 02:22:58,920 times and he seems to have such credible 3163 02:23:02,570 --> 02:23:00,330 information and he's been taken so 3164 02:23:05,270 --> 02:23:02,580 seriously by I'm looking at a Rolling 3165 02:23:07,370 --> 02:23:05,280 Stone article with his information and 3166 02:23:10,880 --> 02:23:07,380 he gets that credibility with them in 3167 02:23:12,050 --> 02:23:10,890 the mainstream media because of his you 3168 02:23:13,700 --> 02:23:12,060 know his former status or at least 3169 02:23:17,750 --> 02:23:13,710 current status as as you know 3170 02:23:19,730 --> 02:23:17,760 punk music royalty yet with you if if 3171 02:23:21,290 --> 02:23:19,740 even though he you know there was a 3172 02:23:21,950 --> 02:23:21,300 miscommunication but time he still came 3173 02:23:24,440 --> 02:23:21,960 on the show 3174 02:23:25,490 --> 02:23:24,450 that's credibility if he's like okay 3175 02:23:27,050 --> 02:23:25,500 well you're pushing it back several 3176 02:23:29,240 --> 02:23:27,060 times it's like is this another guy a 3177 02:23:32,060 --> 02:23:29,250 thing is this something that he's just 3178 02:23:33,440 --> 02:23:32,070 trying to you know gain a new audience 3179 02:23:36,980 --> 02:23:33,450 for the music type of thing 3180 02:23:38,810 --> 02:23:36,990 how do you help people like me and 3181 02:23:40,490 --> 02:23:38,820 people my age or younger who are seeing 3182 02:23:42,080 --> 02:23:40,500 this and going well you know it's 3183 02:23:45,430 --> 02:23:42,090 possible he's just you know full of [\h__\h] 3184 02:23:48,950 --> 02:23:45,440 but we'll see him was the real thing 3185 02:23:50,410 --> 02:23:48,960 here's a 'any frame that that for your 3186 02:23:54,469 --> 02:23:50,420 audience 3187 02:23:56,690 --> 02:23:54,479 first of all tom who has been interested 3188 02:23:57,860 --> 02:23:56,700 in the issue most of his life and was a 3189 02:24:02,900 --> 02:23:57,870 big supporter of steven career in the 3190 02:24:04,910 --> 02:24:02,910 early 90s 1990s i then kind of got out 3191 02:24:07,010 --> 02:24:04,920 of the field and went be no 3192 02:24:10,340 --> 02:24:07,020 concentrating on his music then he 3193 02:24:16,219 --> 02:24:10,350 reappears in a pretty aggressive way in 3194 02:24:19,160 --> 02:24:16,229 april i think of 2016 now let's frame 3195 02:24:21,469 --> 02:24:19,170 that by April of 2016 3196 02:24:23,480 --> 02:24:21,479 PRG had already generated hundreds of 3197 02:24:30,620 --> 02:24:23,490 articles about the Clinton EDD 3198 02:24:33,520 --> 02:24:30,630 connection right and Clinton was 3199 02:24:37,490 --> 02:24:33,530 considered a shoo-in to win the election 3200 02:24:39,080 --> 02:24:37,500 alright so the issue is fully in play 3201 02:24:41,540 --> 02:24:39,090 pressures building on a Clinton team and 3202 02:24:43,220 --> 02:24:41,550 guess what the all the guys over at the 3203 02:24:45,470 --> 02:24:43,230 military intelligence complex in the 3204 02:24:48,380 --> 02:24:45,480 Pentagon they actually go on the 3205 02:24:50,780 --> 02:24:48,390 internet and they can say check up on 3206 02:24:52,370 --> 02:24:50,790 things yeah I've been on their radar 3207 02:24:56,360 --> 02:24:52,380 since 1996 3208 02:24:57,440 --> 02:24:56,370 uh they were they'd been to my site they 3209 02:24:59,180 --> 02:24:57,450 were seeing these articles they they 3210 02:25:02,420 --> 02:24:59,190 could easily go and scan you know scores 3211 02:25:04,580 --> 02:25:02,430 of them and so it's an April 16 roughly 3212 02:25:05,540 --> 02:25:04,590 give or take that he is he comes forward 3213 02:25:07,540 --> 02:25:05,550 and says he was approached by the 3214 02:25:10,160 --> 02:25:07,550 Pentagon now I heard first heard this 3215 02:25:12,020 --> 02:25:10,170 and I heard it from him on the gorge on 3216 02:25:14,390 --> 02:25:12,030 a George Knapp show he was on with 3217 02:25:17,450 --> 02:25:14,400 George NAPLAN on coast to coast I was 3218 02:25:19,580 --> 02:25:17,460 skeptical for sure because what he said 3219 02:25:21,200 --> 02:25:19,590 was pretty profound he said he was 3220 02:25:22,670 --> 02:25:21,210 approached by the Pentagon about the 3221 02:25:24,950 --> 02:25:22,680 idea of getting information out on this 3222 02:25:27,260 --> 02:25:24,960 issue and him assisting in that regard 3223 02:25:29,990 --> 02:25:27,270 the assumption immediately being okay 3224 02:25:31,550 --> 02:25:30,000 he's a rock guy he's connected to the 3225 02:25:35,990 --> 02:25:31,560 youth the Millennials and so forth and 3226 02:25:38,870 --> 02:25:36,000 and he can rear that audience and he's a 3227 02:25:40,070 --> 02:25:38,880 media guy so alright fine and then he 3228 02:25:41,480 --> 02:25:40,080 says that they met with them and they 3229 02:25:45,080 --> 02:25:41,490 talked and they and they provided a 3230 02:25:47,840 --> 02:25:45,090 tenten person advisory team the Pentagon 3231 02:25:50,030 --> 02:25:47,850 had provided a 10 percent binary team to 3232 02:25:51,920 --> 02:25:50,040 help pry him the information and he 3233 02:25:53,570 --> 02:25:51,930 would then take and format and get out 3234 02:25:58,460 --> 02:25:53,580 to the people and I'm going you know 3235 02:26:00,110 --> 02:25:58,470 that's pretty extraordinary and so fine 3236 02:26:03,410 --> 02:26:00,120 but I didn't I didn't I didn't dismiss 3237 02:26:07,010 --> 02:26:03,420 it and then I paid close attention as it 3238 02:26:08,810 --> 02:26:07,020 unfolded and he continued to come 3239 02:26:10,340 --> 02:26:08,820 forward the information he said he was 3240 02:26:12,080 --> 02:26:10,350 gonna information will be coming out in 3241 02:26:14,770 --> 02:26:12,090 the form of books and in which case a 3242 02:26:18,140 --> 02:26:14,780 series of nonfiction fiction a 3243 02:26:20,120 --> 02:26:18,150 documentary and what-have-you then he 3244 02:26:21,860 --> 02:26:20,130 then the book turns up secret machines 3245 02:26:24,380 --> 02:26:21,870 I'm going well for one thing he's 3246 02:26:27,890 --> 02:26:24,390 certainly serious he's gotten this 3247 02:26:31,540 --> 02:26:27,900 information and so if I to take him at 3248 02:26:34,550 --> 02:26:31,550 his word what I'm hearing is that 3249 02:26:38,750 --> 02:26:34,560 halfway through the election year of 3250 02:26:40,550 --> 02:26:38,760 2016 with Clinton considered a lock to 3251 02:26:42,590 --> 02:26:40,560 win the White House and with the 3252 02:26:45,770 --> 02:26:42,600 pressure growing on her every week about 3253 02:26:48,950 --> 02:26:45,780 the et issue of them going on Kimmel and 3254 02:26:51,410 --> 02:26:48,960 Ellen DeGeneres and Colbert and her 3255 02:26:53,810 --> 02:26:51,420 interview into December 31 3256 02:26:57,530 --> 02:26:53,820 fifteen to the Conway daily son the 3257 02:26:59,660 --> 02:26:57,540 Pentagon has taken action of its own to 3258 02:27:01,070 --> 02:26:59,670 sort of get into the game and get some 3259 02:27:04,000 --> 02:27:01,080 information out because they're 3260 02:27:06,710 --> 02:27:04,010 anticipating disclosure just as I was 3261 02:27:10,400 --> 02:27:06,720 okay fine so we're moving forward and 3262 02:27:13,580 --> 02:27:10,410 then guess what happens somebody hacks 3263 02:27:14,780 --> 02:27:13,590 Podesta's files and starts releasing 3264 02:27:16,190 --> 02:27:14,790 them while wikileaks gets them 3265 02:27:17,600 --> 02:27:16,200 eventually and starts releasing them and 3266 02:27:20,150 --> 02:27:17,610 people paying real close attention 3267 02:27:22,400 --> 02:27:20,160 including me and i scattered scoured 3268 02:27:24,290 --> 02:27:22,410 those files every single day until 3269 02:27:26,630 --> 02:27:24,300 eventually I had something that 85 or 90 3270 02:27:27,920 --> 02:27:26,640 of them that was going out and my update 3271 02:27:29,840 --> 02:27:27,930 and I where I had them all in 3272 02:27:31,700 --> 02:27:29,850 chronological order and then I and I 3273 02:27:33,620 --> 02:27:31,710 highlighted their responses and 3274 02:27:36,550 --> 02:27:33,630 highlighted you know who's responding 3275 02:27:39,520 --> 02:27:36,560 and guess what emerged in those 90 files 3276 02:27:42,740 --> 02:27:39,530 correspondence between Tom DeLonge and 3277 02:27:45,530 --> 02:27:42,750 John Podesta references to the Pentagon 3278 02:27:47,300 --> 02:27:45,540 situation trying to get Pentagon to meet 3279 02:27:48,250 --> 02:27:47,310 with the trying to get Podesta to meet 3280 02:27:49,730 --> 02:27:48,260 with one of the Pentagon general 3281 02:27:51,620 --> 02:27:49,740 introducing him to a high-level 3282 02:27:53,330 --> 02:27:51,630 scientist and then of course the 3283 02:27:55,760 --> 02:27:53,340 interview that he had with Podesta for 3284 02:27:57,800 --> 02:27:55,770 the documentary and I knew of course at 3285 02:27:59,810 --> 02:27:57,810 that point without without question the 3286 02:28:03,830 --> 02:27:59,820 Tom DeLonge spacing story was absolutely 3287 02:28:05,540 --> 02:28:03,840 true hmm all right because John Podesta 3288 02:28:07,219 --> 02:28:05,550 would not be giving an interview to some 3289 02:28:09,560 --> 02:28:07,229 idiot rock star that concocted a 3290 02:28:11,450 --> 02:28:09,570 completely phony deal with a Pentagon 3291 02:28:14,600 --> 02:28:11,460 he's not that stupid 3292 02:28:19,520 --> 02:28:14,610 and so taught whatever Tom DeLonge is 3293 02:28:22,300 --> 02:28:19,530 doing it's legitimate now this what's 3294 02:28:25,940 --> 02:28:22,310 going on now with him is it guess what 3295 02:28:28,070 --> 02:28:25,950 Clinton didn't win so when Trump wins 3296 02:28:30,170 --> 02:28:28,080 the election whatever was going on with 3297 02:28:32,810 --> 02:28:30,180 the bomb now is put into a whole 3298 02:28:34,580 --> 02:28:32,820 different place and I'm sure he's having 3299 02:28:37,370 --> 02:28:34,590 as much trouble as I am dealing with 3300 02:28:39,469 --> 02:28:37,380 this crazy chaotic situation and so 3301 02:28:40,940 --> 02:28:39,479 whatever delia with a Pentagon I'm sure 3302 02:28:43,550 --> 02:28:40,950 it changed on the day after that 3303 02:28:45,770 --> 02:28:43,560 election because I am assure you that 3304 02:28:49,460 --> 02:28:45,780 inside the Pentagon inside the CIA 3305 02:28:52,030 --> 02:28:49,470 inside the NSA or a very large number of 3306 02:28:54,070 --> 02:28:52,040 very short people 3307 02:28:56,140 --> 02:28:54,080 that do not think Donald Trump should be 3308 02:28:58,780 --> 02:28:56,150 within a thousand miles of the White 3309 02:29:01,090 --> 02:28:58,790 House and so the idea 3310 02:29:02,830 --> 02:29:01,100 oh let's continue this information thing 3311 02:29:04,570 --> 02:29:02,840 with Tom DeLonge get it all out 3312 02:29:06,160 --> 02:29:04,580 well then Donald Trump is gonna be the 3313 02:29:08,550 --> 02:29:06,170 post disclosure president if not the 3314 02:29:13,900 --> 02:29:08,560 disclosure president and that is say 3315 02:29:16,450 --> 02:29:13,910 well a sobering thought and so I 3316 02:29:19,090 --> 02:29:16,460 wouldn't blame Tom for this not sure 3317 02:29:22,660 --> 02:29:19,100 talking he's wanting to move forward but 3318 02:29:27,130 --> 02:29:22,670 the situation has changed so that's my 3319 02:29:30,490 --> 02:29:27,140 take on that and this is probably gonna 3320 02:29:33,430 --> 02:29:30,500 get a little deep down deep down the 3321 02:29:35,261 --> 02:29:33,440 rabbit hole even for us and I'm not like 3322 02:29:36,850 --> 02:29:35,271 we don't necessarily do conspiracy 3323 02:29:38,850 --> 02:29:36,860 theory on the show except for the et 3324 02:29:43,810 --> 02:29:38,860 issue which would probably be one of our 3325 02:29:48,970 --> 02:29:43,820 biggest events sorry not a problem 3326 02:29:51,400 --> 02:29:48,980 Seth rich is Lee in chat is asking if 3327 02:29:53,650 --> 02:29:51,410 there's any connection to disclosure to 3328 02:29:55,990 --> 02:29:53,660 set or even if that is something that 3329 02:29:59,110 --> 02:29:56,000 even should be considered not to 3330 02:30:03,390 --> 02:29:59,120 disclosure well at the Seth rich 3331 02:30:08,640 --> 02:30:03,400 situation is one more example of 3332 02:30:12,070 --> 02:30:08,650 something really troubling happens and 3333 02:30:16,360 --> 02:30:12,080 government bunkers up and we're not 3334 02:30:18,520 --> 02:30:16,370 getting information and it's just left 3335 02:30:21,340 --> 02:30:18,530 hanging there let's list all the things 3336 02:30:25,180 --> 02:30:21,350 that are hanging in the American mindset 3337 02:30:26,470 --> 02:30:25,190 right now Kennedy's assassination Robert 3338 02:30:30,640 --> 02:30:26,480 Kennedy's assassination 3339 02:30:33,880 --> 02:30:30,650 nine-one-one okay the Vincennes the 3340 02:30:35,770 --> 02:30:33,890 Liberty you name it so many things not 3341 02:30:37,450 --> 02:30:35,780 really properly resolved it's a it's a 3342 02:30:38,410 --> 02:30:37,460 you don't have a need to know don't 3343 02:30:41,261 --> 02:30:38,420 leave us alone 3344 02:30:43,540 --> 02:30:41,271 if we screwed up it's our problem go 3345 02:30:45,400 --> 02:30:43,550 away but make sure you elect us and make 3346 02:30:49,060 --> 02:30:45,410 sure you you'll fund the military at six 3347 02:30:52,500 --> 02:30:49,070 hundred billion bucks a year the setting 3348 02:30:56,580 --> 02:30:55,920 uh he was shot in the street he was not 3349 02:30:58,950 --> 02:30:56,590 robbed 3350 02:31:00,300 --> 02:30:58,960 they come in they investigate it where 3351 02:31:02,510 --> 02:31:00,310 they daily date they get put out a 3352 02:31:04,649 --> 02:31:02,520 response and then we don't hear anything 3353 02:31:06,599 --> 02:31:04,659 supposedly there they're investigated 3354 02:31:10,739 --> 02:31:06,609 I've been investigating for months all 3355 02:31:16,229 --> 02:31:10,749 right nothing that's irritating as hell 3356 02:31:19,620 --> 02:31:16,239 and then okay some theories develop that 3357 02:31:22,309 --> 02:31:19,630 maybe he was a leaker of the documents 3358 02:31:25,550 --> 02:31:22,319 hmm all right fine now 3359 02:31:28,229 --> 02:31:25,560 basically that could just be a theory 3360 02:31:30,420 --> 02:31:28,239 and again part of the whole left/right 3361 02:31:34,410 --> 02:31:30,430 propaganda game anything that will make 3362 02:31:37,739 --> 02:31:34,420 your opponents look bad I get that but 3363 02:31:42,330 --> 02:31:37,749 the theory was was hardly without some 3364 02:31:49,120 --> 02:31:42,340 basis and so that's where it would have 3365 02:31:55,240 --> 02:31:51,479 WikiLeaks came under a lot of pressure 3366 02:31:56,530 --> 02:31:55,250 about those documents because the claim 3367 02:31:59,320 --> 02:31:56,540 was they were given to him by the 3368 02:32:01,450 --> 02:31:59,330 Russians and so naturally they wanted I 3369 02:32:03,370 --> 02:32:01,460 saw Anna Justice they wanted Julian 3370 02:32:05,679 --> 02:32:03,380 Assange to say whether or not the 3371 02:32:08,260 --> 02:32:05,689 Russians gave the documents and early on 3372 02:32:10,899 --> 02:32:08,270 they said no that they did not come from 3373 02:32:13,710 --> 02:32:10,909 the Russians now Julian Assange is not 3374 02:32:15,820 --> 02:32:13,720 got a reputation as being a liar per se 3375 02:32:18,340 --> 02:32:15,830 he kind of manipulated people in the 3376 02:32:22,330 --> 02:32:18,350 early days but it's been pretty straight 3377 02:32:23,590 --> 02:32:22,340 with the core work of WikiLeaks but you 3378 02:32:25,510 --> 02:32:23,600 know that's not enough so they pressed 3379 02:32:27,820 --> 02:32:25,520 him some more and and eventually they 3380 02:32:30,639 --> 02:32:27,830 interviewed I've heard this interview 3381 02:32:33,280 --> 02:32:30,649 they interviewed Julian Assange is this 3382 02:32:38,200 --> 02:32:33,290 like the third go around and ask him 3383 02:32:41,349 --> 02:32:38,210 about those documents right and he's 3384 02:32:43,120 --> 02:32:41,359 talking to the interviewer about the 3385 02:32:48,300 --> 02:32:43,130 fact that Russia did not give him the 3386 02:32:51,670 --> 02:32:48,310 documents and then gratuitously mentions 3387 02:32:54,130 --> 02:32:51,680 the murder of Seth rich he doesn't refer 3388 02:32:58,330 --> 02:32:54,140 to him by name he refers to the murder 3389 02:33:00,490 --> 02:32:58,340 of a political operative or political 3390 02:33:03,010 --> 02:33:00,500 staffer in Washington everybody knew 3391 02:33:05,019 --> 02:33:03,020 what he was talking about why did he do 3392 02:33:07,750 --> 02:33:05,029 that why did he bring up Seth rich at 3393 02:33:11,050 --> 02:33:07,760 all well keep in mind that WikiLeaks 3394 02:33:13,330 --> 02:33:11,060 policy is firmly they do not disclose 3395 02:33:18,490 --> 02:33:13,340 sources all right 3396 02:33:20,469 --> 02:33:18,500 ever unless it's already out okay no or 3397 02:33:22,570 --> 02:33:20,479 there is a compelling reason they out 3398 02:33:24,790 --> 02:33:22,580 they acknowledge that Chelsea Manning 3399 02:33:26,800 --> 02:33:24,800 gave him they gave him those documents 3400 02:33:29,740 --> 02:33:26,810 but that's after so Chelsea had been 3401 02:33:33,670 --> 02:33:29,750 arrested and was on his way to trial and 3402 02:33:34,899 --> 02:33:33,680 was in dire circumstances and and it was 3403 02:33:36,849 --> 02:33:34,909 pretty much understood that he'd given 3404 02:33:38,590 --> 02:33:36,859 them the documents and so they did that 3405 02:33:42,790 --> 02:33:38,600 but that's an it that's an extreme case 3406 02:33:45,399 --> 02:33:42,800 and so they have a situation here that's 3407 02:33:46,780 --> 02:33:45,409 also very dire meaning that the election 3408 02:33:49,479 --> 02:33:46,790 has been compromised all hell is 3409 02:33:53,139 --> 02:33:49,489 breaking loose WikiLeaks is under huge 3410 02:33:57,130 --> 02:33:53,149 pressure but the policy is not the 3411 02:33:59,920 --> 02:33:57,140 reveal source and so Assange could not 3412 02:34:02,530 --> 02:33:59,930 say Seth rich gave him to him if he did 3413 02:34:05,020 --> 02:34:02,540 but he mentions he refers to 3414 02:34:07,450 --> 02:34:05,030 him in that that is pretty interesting 3415 02:34:09,910 --> 02:34:07,460 and it made me think that Seth rich did 3416 02:34:12,570 --> 02:34:09,920 give him those documents certainly it 3417 02:34:14,890 --> 02:34:12,580 was worthy of following up all right and 3418 02:34:17,110 --> 02:34:14,900 there was one other circumstance that I 3419 02:34:20,110 --> 02:34:17,120 don't recall the moment and so I have a 3420 02:34:24,011 --> 02:34:20,120 very bad feeling that the fundamental 3421 02:34:26,410 --> 02:34:24,021 story about Seth rich is not known it's 3422 02:34:29,400 --> 02:34:26,420 certainly known that the DC Police 3423 02:34:31,390 --> 02:34:29,410 Department is stonewalling on this 3424 02:34:34,120 --> 02:34:31,400 apparently the investigation doesn't 3425 02:34:36,900 --> 02:34:34,130 seem to be vigorous at all and 3426 02:34:41,200 --> 02:34:36,910 understand we're talking about a a 3427 02:34:45,910 --> 02:34:41,210 staffer of the Democratic National 3428 02:34:48,540 --> 02:34:45,920 Committee or the Clinton campaign I 3429 02:34:52,150 --> 02:34:48,550 forget which it is I think it was DNC 3430 02:34:56,980 --> 02:34:54,160 if you're a staff are up on the hill and 3431 02:34:59,050 --> 02:34:56,990 there are 10,000 of them you would be 3432 02:35:01,110 --> 02:34:59,060 really upset if you thought the district 3433 02:35:05,469 --> 02:35:01,120 police was sitting on their butt on this 3434 02:35:09,310 --> 02:35:05,479 this is not cool and so I don't know but 3435 02:35:11,670 --> 02:35:09,320 I have a bad feeling about it and I and 3436 02:35:14,710 --> 02:35:11,680 the way things go these days I I 3437 02:35:17,679 --> 02:35:14,720 wouldn't be surprised if we never get 3438 02:35:19,300 --> 02:35:17,689 the truth on this matter now that is not 3439 02:35:21,940 --> 02:35:19,310 a matter directly affecting explode 3440 02:35:23,560 --> 02:35:21,950 disclosure her election or failure to be 3441 02:35:27,610 --> 02:35:23,570 elected certainly didn't disclose 3442 02:35:33,550 --> 02:35:27,620 disclosure and that's about as far as I 3443 02:35:37,770 --> 02:35:33,560 can go and and I this is kind of outside 3444 02:35:41,770 --> 02:35:37,780 of my my my 3445 02:35:43,780 --> 02:35:41,780 strike zone admittedly and the only 3446 02:35:46,000 --> 02:35:43,790 reason I mention it is because this is 3447 02:35:52,210 --> 02:35:46,010 kind of hit home with me this is pretty 3448 02:35:55,810 --> 02:35:52,220 awful and it does it does get back once 3449 02:35:57,610 --> 02:35:55,820 again to this this problem we have that 3450 02:35:59,139 --> 02:35:57,620 you know if you're the candidate you 3451 02:36:00,639 --> 02:35:59,149 can't tell the people something that'll 3452 02:36:02,620 --> 02:36:00,649 upset them even though they desperately 3453 02:36:05,350 --> 02:36:02,630 should know this you can't tell the 3454 02:36:06,460 --> 02:36:05,360 truth hide obvious Kate the people don't 3455 02:36:09,850 --> 02:36:06,470 have a right to know it's all in that 3456 02:36:13,570 --> 02:36:09,860 category and that attitude is strangling 3457 02:36:15,880 --> 02:36:13,580 this country at the throat and so 3458 02:36:17,530 --> 02:36:15,890 whether it's seth rich or weapons of 3459 02:36:20,320 --> 02:36:17,540 mass destruction in Iraq or the et 3460 02:36:22,179 --> 02:36:20,330 presence or a hundred of the things I 3461 02:36:24,070 --> 02:36:22,189 could you know ruin your evening with 3462 02:36:26,500 --> 02:36:24,080 but it comes down to the same thing 3463 02:36:29,160 --> 02:36:26,510 we're killing the country through 3464 02:36:34,750 --> 02:36:29,170 institutional lying propaganda and 3465 02:36:38,040 --> 02:36:34,760 malfeasance if the major issue that we 3466 02:36:39,670 --> 02:36:38,050 have is propaganda lying and malfeasance 3467 02:36:43,450 --> 02:36:39,680 among other things 3468 02:36:47,139 --> 02:36:43,460 Canadian and I'm a Canadian centrist 3469 02:36:48,130 --> 02:36:47,149 which even to me it's like tattoo to 3470 02:36:49,900 --> 02:36:48,140 Americans that would be considered 3471 02:36:50,830 --> 02:36:49,910 considered far left liberal with with 3472 02:36:53,139 --> 02:36:50,840 how different the countries can 3473 02:36:54,370 --> 02:36:53,149 sometimes be like I believe in the right 3474 02:36:58,330 --> 02:36:54,380 to bear arms and I also believe in 3475 02:37:00,280 --> 02:36:58,340 socialized medicine go figure if we're 3476 02:37:01,570 --> 02:37:00,290 dealing with malfeasance to give you an 3477 02:37:02,860 --> 02:37:01,580 idea of what we're dealing with you up 3478 02:37:04,240 --> 02:37:02,870 here in the great white north and I know 3479 02:37:04,780 --> 02:37:04,250 you've been to you're like you're coming 3480 02:37:05,941 --> 02:37:04,790 to Toronto 3481 02:37:09,031 --> 02:37:05,951 if 3482 02:37:10,470 --> 02:37:09,041 at some point at opine high school to 3483 02:37:15,841 --> 02:37:10,480 come down if I can actually get get out 3484 02:37:19,581 --> 02:37:15,851 of the house the idea of the government 3485 02:37:22,371 --> 02:37:19,591 doing things against the people's own 3486 02:37:24,871 --> 02:37:22,381 best interests we currently have a 3487 02:37:26,640 --> 02:37:24,881 Liberal government in power here in 3488 02:37:29,631 --> 02:37:26,650 Canada which would be equivalent to the 3489 02:37:32,281 --> 02:37:29,641 Democrats and I'm sure you're well aware 3490 02:37:37,260 --> 02:37:32,291 would have been at another time but not 3491 02:37:39,150 --> 02:37:37,270 the current day the idea of 3492 02:37:40,320 --> 02:37:39,160 the people of the party of the people 3493 02:37:43,019 --> 02:37:40,330 that was what they were supposed to be 3494 02:37:46,410 --> 02:37:43,029 in the 90s and they during the 90s we 3495 02:37:47,460 --> 02:37:46,420 had great economic times under under the 3496 02:37:50,160 --> 02:37:47,470 Christian government 3497 02:37:52,080 --> 02:37:50,170 he was stood for three terms or won 3498 02:37:55,590 --> 02:37:52,090 three elections I should say and like 3499 02:37:56,880 --> 02:37:55,600 during the 90s myself as a teenager if I 3500 02:37:58,769 --> 02:37:56,890 lost a job I could walk out and 3501 02:38:00,000 --> 02:37:58,779 literally walk across the food court go 3502 02:38:01,349 --> 02:38:00,010 say hey like hey do you need somebody 3503 02:38:06,150 --> 02:38:01,359 and they'd hire me and I'd be starting 3504 02:38:08,309 --> 02:38:06,160 the next day the moment that I got into 3505 02:38:13,950 --> 02:38:08,319 my late 20s I that this was like about 3506 02:38:15,050 --> 02:38:13,960 vide 2010 to 2013 the economy has gone 3507 02:38:18,269 --> 02:38:15,060 completely to [\h__\h] 3508 02:38:19,530 --> 02:38:18,279 no jobs no nothing and that's because 3509 02:38:21,059 --> 02:38:19,540 we've had a conservative we had a 3510 02:38:22,950 --> 02:38:21,069 Conservative Party in government that 3511 02:38:25,650 --> 02:38:22,960 essentially just focused on commodities 3512 02:38:27,260 --> 02:38:25,660 and not actual stimulating the 3513 02:38:31,740 --> 02:38:27,270 government's stimulating the economy 3514 02:38:33,300 --> 02:38:31,750 yeah so after a decade of you know 3515 02:38:37,070 --> 02:38:33,310 complete obscurity no transparency in 3516 02:38:38,700 --> 02:38:37,080 government you know borderline 3517 02:38:40,800 --> 02:38:38,710 authoritarianism because it's 3518 02:38:43,050 --> 02:38:40,810 parliamentary system we get a live 3519 02:38:45,000 --> 02:38:43,060 liberal government in power that were 3520 02:38:46,620 --> 02:38:45,010 like okay and not only that the person 3521 02:38:49,860 --> 02:38:46,630 who is in power who's leading leading 3522 02:38:52,620 --> 02:38:49,870 the government is the son of what who 3523 02:38:55,410 --> 02:38:52,630 some would be considered the best Prime 3524 02:38:57,210 --> 02:38:55,420 Minister we ever had in in Pierre 3525 02:38:58,679 --> 02:38:57,220 Trudeau because he he gave us the the 3526 02:39:01,290 --> 02:38:58,689 Bill of Rights it you know our Charter 3527 02:39:02,639 --> 02:39:01,300 freedoms etc and we the reason we can 3528 02:39:05,460 --> 02:39:02,649 call ourselves an independent nation 3529 02:39:07,410 --> 02:39:05,470 that has you know a a monarchy but we're 3530 02:39:08,820 --> 02:39:07,420 still personal our own country so his 3531 02:39:10,139 --> 02:39:08,830 son comes into power son had no 3532 02:39:12,570 --> 02:39:10,149 political experience he's not a lawyer 3533 02:39:14,309 --> 02:39:12,580 he doesn't he's a drama teacher 3534 02:39:17,610 --> 02:39:14,319 essentially as was born of the silver 3535 02:39:20,700 --> 02:39:17,620 spoon in his mouth trust fund baby the 3536 02:39:26,330 --> 02:39:20,710 best way to be able to put it the moment 3537 02:39:29,429 --> 02:39:26,340 he comes in he panders to the far left 3538 02:39:32,280 --> 02:39:29,439 sulfur justice warriors you know and I 3539 02:39:35,309 --> 02:39:32,290 I'm all for it Galit Arianism I'm gonna 3540 02:39:37,800 --> 02:39:35,319 get a gala tyrannous myself equal rights 3541 02:39:39,809 --> 02:39:37,810 doesn't matter who you are race like you 3542 02:39:41,309 --> 02:39:39,819 the law should apply do the same you 3543 02:39:43,139 --> 02:39:41,319 should have the same opportunities and 3544 02:39:44,670 --> 02:39:43,149 if you can meet meet the criteria then 3545 02:39:47,280 --> 02:39:44,680 then then all power to you 3546 02:39:48,610 --> 02:39:47,290 work hard you'll get there man woman 3547 02:39:53,080 --> 02:39:48,620 doesn't matter 3548 02:39:53,980 --> 02:39:53,090 at the same time we have foreign 3549 02:39:58,030 --> 02:39:53,990 interests that are coming into the 3550 02:39:59,860 --> 02:39:58,040 country that are essentially buying we 3551 02:40:01,780 --> 02:39:59,870 have one satellite communications 3552 02:40:05,280 --> 02:40:01,790 company that was bought by a Chinese 3553 02:40:09,761 --> 02:40:05,290 firm that has very close ties to the 3554 02:40:12,580 --> 02:40:09,771 Chinese ruling party and at the same 3555 02:40:14,950 --> 02:40:12,590 time he has a Jessica Clinton has their 3556 02:40:18,011 --> 02:40:14,960 own that foundation Trump has the same 3557 02:40:20,680 --> 02:40:18,021 thing most most wealthy people will or 3558 02:40:22,750 --> 02:40:20,690 well-known people will and you know 3559 02:40:24,551 --> 02:40:22,760 they're donating providing funds and 3560 02:40:26,890 --> 02:40:24,561 there's a lot of back scratching going 3561 02:40:29,051 --> 02:40:26,900 on that's about as far as I can tell it 3562 02:40:32,110 --> 02:40:29,061 goes with with with a Canadian politics 3563 02:40:33,850 --> 02:40:32,120 it comes down to its money interests but 3564 02:40:35,080 --> 02:40:33,860 it goes about that far and if you've got 3565 02:40:37,150 --> 02:40:35,090 money you're good if you don't have 3566 02:40:39,040 --> 02:40:37,160 money you're [\h__\h] the u.s. is the same 3567 02:40:41,470 --> 02:40:39,050 way but you have ten times the number of 3568 02:40:43,841 --> 02:40:41,480 people which means a [\h__\h] ton more 3569 02:40:45,400 --> 02:40:43,851 revenue and a lot more that that money 3570 02:40:48,341 --> 02:40:45,410 can be spent on in terms of black 3571 02:40:51,040 --> 02:40:48,351 budgets in terms of you know whether 3572 02:40:53,860 --> 02:40:51,050 it's technology whether it is you know 3573 02:40:57,700 --> 02:40:53,870 certain fields of research whether it is 3574 02:40:58,570 --> 02:40:57,710 you know even collusion with you know 3575 02:41:02,530 --> 02:40:58,580 heaven forbid 3576 02:41:04,540 --> 02:41:02,540 it's a intergalactic species that has 3577 02:41:06,720 --> 02:41:04,550 maybe not our best interests at heart or 3578 02:41:11,470 --> 02:41:06,730 maybe they're just passing through and 3579 02:41:13,420 --> 02:41:11,480 my main concern is if you compare apples 3580 02:41:16,030 --> 02:41:13,430 to oranges or just apples to apples and 3581 02:41:19,470 --> 02:41:16,040 say there was a certain level of office 3582 02:41:21,880 --> 02:41:19,480 keishon or as you said a truth embargo 3583 02:41:24,430 --> 02:41:21,890 in your opinion because I know you have 3584 02:41:27,160 --> 02:41:24,440 not seen like you're not an experienced 3585 02:41:29,110 --> 02:41:27,170 you don't have any you know you're not a 3586 02:41:31,210 --> 02:41:29,120 UFO observer you're not an abductee 3587 02:41:33,250 --> 02:41:31,220 you're somebody who's just seen the [\h__\h] 3588 02:41:39,670 --> 02:41:33,260 and seen what goes on how deep does the 3589 02:41:39,680 --> 02:41:44,051 well 3590 02:41:51,730 --> 02:41:46,930 alright first of all let me respond to 3591 02:41:54,761 --> 02:41:51,740 your canadian discussion i've been a 3592 02:41:56,530 --> 02:41:54,771 candidate many times here's my response 3593 02:41:58,581 --> 02:41:56,540 canada is one of the finest countries in 3594 02:42:02,140 --> 02:41:58,591 the world 3595 02:42:06,621 --> 02:42:02,150 ah it is better the United States in 3596 02:42:09,951 --> 02:42:06,631 almost all categories and I've looked at 3597 02:42:11,781 --> 02:42:09,961 that researched it not all categories we 3598 02:42:12,951 --> 02:42:11,791 we are the United States is the number 3599 02:42:15,501 --> 02:42:12,961 one country in the world for serial 3600 02:42:17,121 --> 02:42:15,511 killers we also spend more money in 3601 02:42:19,100 --> 02:42:17,131 defense military than any other country 3602 02:42:21,171 --> 02:42:19,110 in the world actually we spend more 3603 02:42:26,720 --> 02:42:21,181 money than 47 percent of all the other 3604 02:42:28,251 --> 02:42:26,730 countries in the world combined now 3605 02:42:30,350 --> 02:42:28,261 actually when I sent Tripp we spent 47 3606 02:42:31,970 --> 02:42:30,360 percent of the total world world 3607 02:42:37,151 --> 02:42:31,980 spending on military intelligence in a 3608 02:42:39,711 --> 02:42:37,161 war where Canada has gotten in trouble 3609 02:42:42,201 --> 02:42:39,721 usually is when it tries to emulate the 3610 02:42:45,470 --> 02:42:42,211 United States and that sometimes gets 3611 02:42:47,001 --> 02:42:45,480 into trouble where Canada has done what 3612 02:42:50,031 --> 02:42:47,011 Canada thinks best for Canada it's done 3613 02:42:51,350 --> 02:42:50,041 very well if I was a Canadian and I get 3614 02:42:55,671 --> 02:42:51,360 up every day and I'd kissed the friggin 3615 02:42:56,961 --> 02:42:55,681 flag it's fantastic place it's had its 3616 02:42:59,781 --> 02:42:56,971 issues and it's had his problems it's 3617 02:43:03,741 --> 02:42:59,791 had its ups and downs and the huge 3618 02:43:05,361 --> 02:43:03,751 economic collapse of 2008 9 he hurt 3619 02:43:06,951 --> 02:43:05,371 Canada some well it could have heard it 3620 02:43:08,901 --> 02:43:06,961 a lot better except it's banking's worse 3621 02:43:11,301 --> 02:43:08,911 but its banking system was relatively 3622 02:43:13,071 --> 02:43:11,311 under control but that collapse was 3623 02:43:15,741 --> 02:43:13,081 caused by the wall street mm-hmm 3624 02:43:18,261 --> 02:43:15,751 lunatics some of the greediest people 3625 02:43:20,300 --> 02:43:18,271 the world has ever seen all of which 3626 02:43:24,530 --> 02:43:20,310 were Republican 3627 02:43:25,969 --> 02:43:24,540 and spilled over I love Justin Trudeau I 3628 02:43:27,679 --> 02:43:25,979 think he's gonna be one of the great 3629 02:43:28,280 --> 02:43:27,689 leaders in the world he needs a little 3630 02:43:34,429 --> 02:43:28,290 more time 3631 02:43:35,719 --> 02:43:34,439 - obviously seasoned himself and why he 3632 02:43:37,969 --> 02:43:35,729 may not have political experience you 3633 02:43:40,460 --> 02:43:37,979 don't grow up the son of Pierre Trudeau 3634 02:43:44,330 --> 02:43:40,470 without knowing a great deal about not 3635 02:43:49,069 --> 02:43:44,340 only politics but diplomacy in other 3636 02:43:52,330 --> 02:43:49,079 words and when I came to Canada and did 3637 02:43:55,729 --> 02:43:52,340 a Canadian tour four cities full lecture 3638 02:43:57,740 --> 02:43:55,739 the major point I made was this Canada 3639 02:44:00,200 --> 02:43:57,750 is in great shape as a wonderful country 3640 02:44:03,139 --> 02:44:00,210 but the nature of the situation is a 3641 02:44:05,840 --> 02:44:03,149 canna is is linked to the United States 3642 02:44:07,819 --> 02:44:05,850 with titanium anchor chains and the 3643 02:44:09,590 --> 02:44:07,829 United States is sinking and if the 3644 02:44:13,010 --> 02:44:09,600 United States sinks Canada will be 3645 02:44:16,269 --> 02:44:13,020 dragged under with it and why was I 3646 02:44:19,130 --> 02:44:16,279 saying that because looking for support 3647 02:44:22,130 --> 02:44:19,140 the Citizen hearing was only possible 3648 02:44:25,399 --> 02:44:22,140 because a paradigm research group 3649 02:44:28,639 --> 02:44:25,409 through a partnership was able to get 3650 02:44:32,080 --> 02:44:28,649 get $900,000 and guess that money came 3651 02:44:36,559 --> 02:44:32,090 from a Canadian not from an American and 3652 02:44:38,479 --> 02:44:36,569 that's talk to about no I wouldn't worry 3653 02:44:39,679 --> 02:44:38,489 about Canada you're in good shape 3654 02:44:41,000 --> 02:44:39,689 hopefully gonna get better and hopefully 3655 02:44:42,889 --> 02:44:41,010 the United States will not drag you 3656 02:44:45,830 --> 02:44:42,899 under in terms of the rabbit hole oh let 3657 02:44:49,130 --> 02:44:45,840 me tell you the rabbit hole is deep and 3658 02:44:51,769 --> 02:44:49,140 it's a it's been expanded through giant 3659 02:44:55,219 --> 02:44:51,779 underground mining machines underground 3660 02:44:56,979 --> 02:44:55,229 facilities laboratories God knows how 3661 02:45:00,710 --> 02:44:56,989 many millions of square feet there are 3662 02:45:02,689 --> 02:45:00,720 Canada is part of it Canada offers and 3663 02:45:03,740 --> 02:45:02,699 from the very beginning the military 3664 02:45:06,700 --> 02:45:03,750 intelligence complex in the United 3665 02:45:08,750 --> 02:45:06,710 States I'm extraordinarily remote and 3666 02:45:09,950 --> 02:45:08,760 inconvenient places they could do 3667 02:45:11,689 --> 02:45:09,960 research and so forth 3668 02:45:13,370 --> 02:45:11,699 Canada is definitely been part of the 3669 02:45:14,200 --> 02:45:13,380 truth embargo they have not a move to 3670 02:45:16,969 --> 02:45:14,210 break it 3671 02:45:20,090 --> 02:45:16,979 I'd love 15 minutes with Justin to 3672 02:45:21,349 --> 02:45:20,100 explain why he ought to I've always 3673 02:45:22,519 --> 02:45:21,359 thought that Canada would be the perfect 3674 02:45:25,540 --> 02:45:22,529 one of the perfect nations to end the 3675 02:45:29,179 --> 02:45:25,550 truth embargo because it is a nation 3676 02:45:30,889 --> 02:45:29,189 with the few exceptions where they join 3677 02:45:33,710 --> 02:45:30,899 the unit us and one of its stupid-ass 3678 02:45:34,279 --> 02:45:33,720 war policies and send some Canadians to 3679 02:45:36,950 --> 02:45:34,289 die 3680 02:45:39,559 --> 02:45:36,960 and maybe killed a few you know people 3681 02:45:45,160 --> 02:45:39,569 outside of Canada overall it's been a 3682 02:45:51,109 --> 02:45:47,750 diplomacy it has a very good reputation 3683 02:45:55,099 --> 02:45:51,119 around the world during the some of the 3684 02:45:57,380 --> 02:45:55,109 worst of the last 15 years 20 years it's 3685 02:46:00,979 --> 02:45:57,390 not uncommon for Americans going over to 3686 02:46:02,840 --> 02:46:00,989 Europe to go into one of these travel 3687 02:46:04,849 --> 02:46:02,850 stores and buy a whole bunch of Canadian 3688 02:46:06,859 --> 02:46:04,859 stickers and put them over their luggage 3689 02:46:12,870 --> 02:46:06,869 so that if people wanted to know are you 3690 02:46:17,219 --> 02:46:15,060 but in terms of rabbit hole again yeah 3691 02:46:20,790 --> 02:46:17,229 let me tell you something once 3692 02:46:22,889 --> 02:46:20,800 disclosure takes place we will find out 3693 02:46:25,080 --> 02:46:22,899 how big that rabbit was and it's going 3694 02:46:26,880 --> 02:46:25,090 to be astounding people are the people 3695 02:46:31,139 --> 02:46:26,890 are gonna go are you gotta be kidding me 3696 02:46:33,540 --> 02:46:31,149 no really that oh alright and we'll be 3697 02:46:38,070 --> 02:46:33,550 we'll be investigating and looking at 3698 02:46:38,660 --> 02:46:38,080 that rabbit hole for decades so there 3699 02:46:41,750 --> 02:46:38,670 you go 3700 02:46:44,540 --> 02:46:41,760 what about Paul Hellyer 3701 02:46:47,301 --> 02:46:44,550 great man great politician an honorable 3702 02:46:49,671 --> 02:46:47,311 person deep Christian had the guts to 3703 02:46:52,430 --> 02:46:49,681 come forward 2005 and speak direct truth 3704 02:46:53,870 --> 02:46:52,440 on the issue and he's maintained that 3705 02:46:55,700 --> 02:46:53,880 position he's been interviewed many 3706 02:47:00,290 --> 02:46:55,710 times he provided a lot of gravitas to 3707 02:47:02,900 --> 02:47:00,300 the field he was and of course he was at 3708 02:47:04,730 --> 02:47:02,910 the Citizen hearing on disclosure he did 3709 02:47:09,080 --> 02:47:04,740 try to educate himself just more of the 3710 02:47:10,671 --> 02:47:09,090 the the content and that's not easy 3711 02:47:12,140 --> 02:47:10,681 because he hadn't really studied it 3712 02:47:13,940 --> 02:47:12,150 before so he's gotten in a few areas 3713 02:47:15,921 --> 02:47:13,950 he's been talking about that I think 3714 02:47:19,640 --> 02:47:15,931 probably a problematic or won't hold up 3715 02:47:22,220 --> 02:47:19,650 but his core interaction with this issue 3716 02:47:24,171 --> 02:47:22,230 was when he had read Corsos book and he 3717 02:47:26,810 --> 02:47:24,181 contacted some of the retired military 3718 02:47:28,970 --> 02:47:26,820 here that he knew well from his days as 3719 02:47:31,250 --> 02:47:28,980 defense minister of Canada who confirmed 3720 02:47:34,040 --> 02:47:31,260 to him directly the course so books 3721 02:47:36,500 --> 02:47:34,050 fundamentals were true and he's he 3722 02:47:38,780 --> 02:47:36,510 spoken that many times and so Paul will 3723 02:47:40,341 --> 02:47:38,790 go down in history as one of the few top 3724 02:47:42,470 --> 02:47:40,351 and politicians who stood up to the 3725 02:47:45,020 --> 02:47:42,480 truth embargo and I hope he lives long 3726 02:47:47,421 --> 02:47:45,030 enough to see the truth embargo but the 3727 02:47:50,841 --> 02:47:47,431 guy is amazing at 92 if you probably 3728 02:47:52,100 --> 02:47:50,851 make it to 110 well he lives in Muskoka 3729 02:47:53,060 --> 02:47:52,110 is from what I can understand if I could 3730 02:47:53,900 --> 02:47:53,070 never get him on the show that'd be 3731 02:47:55,520 --> 02:47:53,910 fantastic 3732 02:47:56,930 --> 02:47:55,530 talk about maybe want to get him on the 3733 02:47:59,060 --> 02:47:56,940 show you got to talk to Victor of Victor 3734 02:48:00,440 --> 02:47:59,070 VG on e start with Victor Victor Vichy 3735 02:48:03,200 --> 02:48:00,450 on me I got to write that down 3736 02:48:05,720 --> 02:48:03,210 Victor ah no you eat you can easily find 3737 02:48:07,761 --> 02:48:05,730 him just google him on the Internet zeal 3738 02:48:10,580 --> 02:48:07,771 and communications he's based in Toronto 3739 02:48:10,940 --> 02:48:10,590 Oh vide on e okay - jeez oh yeah that 3740 02:48:15,440 --> 02:48:10,950 makes sense 3741 02:48:17,270 --> 02:48:15,450 Toronto okay um if you are and again III 3742 02:48:18,230 --> 02:48:17,280 know that say like we've been going on 3743 02:48:20,150 --> 02:48:18,240 for about an hour and a half now since 3744 02:48:21,830 --> 02:48:20,160 since it came on like did you need to 3745 02:48:23,360 --> 02:48:21,840 take a break yourself like did you need 3746 02:48:25,070 --> 02:48:23,370 to grab a drink cause how much more time 3747 02:48:26,900 --> 02:48:25,080 do you want to take here won't weigh 3748 02:48:28,100 --> 02:48:26,910 I've done a lot we've we've done about 3749 02:48:29,390 --> 02:48:28,110 an hour and a half at this point I know 3750 02:48:32,060 --> 02:48:29,400 it's getting to about the midnight hour 3751 02:48:33,801 --> 02:48:32,070 I just want people do to give a quick 3752 02:48:35,810 --> 02:48:33,811 shout out to everyone who's responded 3753 02:48:40,160 --> 02:48:35,820 and if you are going to be supporting 3754 02:48:42,950 --> 02:48:40,170 the show here is a special viewer only 3755 02:48:45,671 --> 02:48:42,960 promo code that'll save you 20% at the 3756 02:48:49,520 --> 02:48:45,681 shop top ten of Lord calm the link is in 3757 02:48:53,120 --> 02:48:49,530 the show notes so go check that out it's 3758 02:48:54,960 --> 02:48:53,130 only good until July 18 2017 at 12 a.m. 3759 02:48:59,969 --> 02:48:54,970 Eastern Standard Time 3760 02:49:01,859 --> 02:48:59,979 watch and if you're viewing you saw it 3761 02:49:04,229 --> 02:49:01,869 if you're listening unfortunately you 3762 02:49:05,519 --> 02:49:04,239 got to watch a show on on YouTube now 3763 02:49:09,380 --> 02:49:05,529 the big thing that I have to say and 3764 02:49:12,239 --> 02:49:09,390 this is one thing and again I'm gonna be 3765 02:49:14,250 --> 02:49:12,249 let me back up for a second the first 3766 02:49:16,380 --> 02:49:14,260 time you were on the show we used to do 3767 02:49:17,760 --> 02:49:16,390 full-on outlines and were like oh we're 3768 02:49:18,870 --> 02:49:17,770 gonna put like four pages and we're 3769 02:49:21,840 --> 02:49:18,880 gonna send it to everyone and we're 3770 02:49:25,679 --> 02:49:21,850 going to plan at every single show we 3771 02:49:27,929 --> 02:49:25,689 got some good interviews it wasn't very 3772 02:49:29,880 --> 02:49:27,939 fun one thing that I love about this 3773 02:49:32,939 --> 02:49:29,890 show is that I get to put people on the 3774 02:49:34,170 --> 02:49:32,949 spot because we were unpredictable this 3775 02:49:40,679 --> 02:49:34,180 is what we're known for people who love 3776 02:49:42,719 --> 02:49:40,689 us for it web sites the the paradigm 3777 02:49:44,699 --> 02:49:42,729 research group website has been up for 3778 02:49:46,800 --> 02:49:44,709 quite some time and again you are 3779 02:49:48,300 --> 02:49:46,810 looking for you're looking for funding 3780 02:49:49,469 --> 02:49:48,310 you're looking for credibility you want 3781 02:49:54,059 --> 02:49:49,479 to be able to have the resources that 3782 02:49:57,840 --> 02:49:54,069 are necessary I'm a web designer and I 3783 02:49:59,460 --> 02:49:57,850 have quite a lot of skill I cannot well 3784 02:50:02,779 --> 02:49:59,470 again I'm asking for donations so I can 3785 02:50:05,550 --> 02:50:02,789 keep my curtains on the wall I cannot 3786 02:50:07,290 --> 02:50:05,560 guarantee time but I'm willing to donate 3787 02:50:09,269 --> 02:50:07,300 services to pare down research group to 3788 02:50:12,899 --> 02:50:09,279 make sure that your website can be up to 3789 02:50:15,660 --> 02:50:12,909 date and 2018 ready I want to do it I 3790 02:50:18,300 --> 02:50:15,670 pray you think you need it I can't tell 3791 02:50:20,130 --> 02:50:18,310 you how many people have offered that it 3792 02:50:24,000 --> 02:50:20,140 needs to be updated there's no question 3793 02:50:28,319 --> 02:50:24,010 I'm going to do it and you've just given 3794 02:50:30,779 --> 02:50:28,329 me another bump so hopefully soon I'm 3795 02:50:34,380 --> 02:50:30,789 going to combine and modernize 3796 02:50:36,660 --> 02:50:34,390 streamline it probably in in WordPress 3797 02:50:39,599 --> 02:50:36,670 good idea it's something I've put off 3798 02:50:41,010 --> 02:50:39,609 because it's so big but it needs to be 3799 02:50:45,059 --> 02:50:41,020 done and you're absolutely right and I 3800 02:50:48,899 --> 02:50:45,069 probably is it's it's outdated qualities 3801 02:50:50,939 --> 02:50:48,909 certainly not helpful to - it's probably 3802 02:50:55,050 --> 02:50:50,949 been a problem for some people and I 3803 02:50:56,370 --> 02:50:55,060 appreciate that and but I'm looking for 3804 02:50:58,229 --> 02:50:56,380 I'm it'll be fun when I get mine I 3805 02:51:01,019 --> 02:50:58,239 finally get my act together and do that 3806 02:51:02,519 --> 02:51:01,029 hopefully soon I see it because as 3807 02:51:04,529 --> 02:51:02,529 somebody who like I'm an entrepreneur 3808 02:51:06,170 --> 02:51:04,539 just you know just like a lot of people 3809 02:51:09,630 --> 02:51:06,180 nowadays 3810 02:51:11,429 --> 02:51:09,640 you you live off of the ability to go 3811 02:51:12,689 --> 02:51:11,439 out there and get the word out and have 3812 02:51:14,370 --> 02:51:12,699 the resources that are necessary to be 3813 02:51:17,460 --> 02:51:14,380 able to live to be able to do the doable 3814 02:51:20,700 --> 02:51:17,470 cause that is my fact like that to me 3815 02:51:22,229 --> 02:51:20,710 that speaks to me because III I'm an 3816 02:51:23,250 --> 02:51:22,239 experiencer and I've mentioned this 3817 02:51:25,559 --> 02:51:23,260 before on the show a couple of times 3818 02:51:27,179 --> 02:51:25,569 I've shown some very cliche photos where 3819 02:51:30,239 --> 02:51:27,189 it's like I've seen UFO when it's like 3820 02:51:32,870 --> 02:51:30,249 this orange blob in a black background 3821 02:51:35,160 --> 02:51:32,880 where I'm like I'm a cliche now great 3822 02:51:37,559 --> 02:51:35,170 nobody believes me my wife is in the 3823 02:51:39,300 --> 02:51:37,569 room I like I see a UFO in the room 3824 02:51:41,130 --> 02:51:39,310 everyone says like oh Chris you're just 3825 02:51:44,910 --> 02:51:41,140 like you've had a few scotches m'q yeah 3826 02:51:47,250 --> 02:51:44,920 I have but I know what I saw and when I 3827 02:51:48,660 --> 02:51:47,260 see somebody who has been fighting the 3828 02:51:50,519 --> 02:51:48,670 good fight for so long it's like I need 3829 02:51:52,349 --> 02:51:50,529 to be able to give back as best I can if 3830 02:51:53,760 --> 02:51:52,359 I cannot give money I can give resources 3831 02:51:56,250 --> 02:51:53,770 and everyone should go to paradigm 3832 02:51:58,050 --> 02:51:56,260 research group and the what their 3833 02:52:00,929 --> 02:51:58,060 website is in the show notes if you can 3834 02:52:03,840 --> 02:52:00,939 give even a dollar even even ten dollars 3835 02:52:05,639 --> 02:52:03,850 please do give to this man's fight for 3836 02:52:08,670 --> 02:52:05,649 myself it's like if I can if I can help 3837 02:52:10,739 --> 02:52:08,680 in a way and if I get something out of 3838 02:52:13,620 --> 02:52:10,749 it in terms of exposure that's the whole 3839 02:52:15,660 --> 02:52:13,630 point of being able to do contre our 3840 02:52:17,309 --> 02:52:15,670 show is driven by the guests we have and 3841 02:52:20,250 --> 02:52:17,319 Steve's been good enough to come on here 3842 02:52:23,370 --> 02:52:20,260 I know it's nine o'clock there right now 3843 02:52:25,620 --> 02:52:23,380 I think and you know it should wrap up 3844 02:52:27,689 --> 02:52:25,630 and we should wrap up so what my whole 3845 02:52:30,000 --> 02:52:27,699 thing is go to paradigm research group 3846 02:52:32,069 --> 02:52:30,010 website all the links are there go join 3847 02:52:35,880 --> 02:52:32,079 the Facebook group if you can donate do 3848 02:52:38,250 --> 02:52:35,890 it because this is one of the men that 3849 02:52:39,719 --> 02:52:38,260 is bringing the fight to the politicians 3850 02:52:44,910 --> 02:52:39,729 specifically to make sure that the truth 3851 02:52:47,340 --> 02:52:44,920 embargo can be ended and I am very 3852 02:52:48,389 --> 02:52:47,350 honored and it has been a pleasure to 3853 02:52:51,750 --> 02:52:48,399 have you on here again I do apologize 3854 02:52:55,260 --> 02:52:51,760 for the mix-up compelling compelling 3855 02:52:57,269 --> 02:52:55,270 stop now it's my mix-up not yours and I 3856 02:53:00,599 --> 02:52:57,279 appreciate your inflexible and getting 3857 02:53:02,460 --> 02:53:00,609 the and doing the show so it's all good 3858 02:53:06,929 --> 02:53:02,470 my friend my best regards to you and 3859 02:53:09,769 --> 02:53:06,939 Coco ice as her caption was saying on 3860 02:53:15,269 --> 02:53:09,779 the screen we want disclosure meow 3861 02:53:18,479 --> 02:53:15,279 exactly and welcome to this the new that 3862 02:53:19,950 --> 02:53:18,489 your new media you know adventure my 3863 02:53:21,180 --> 02:53:19,960 regards everybody in Canada I 3864 02:53:23,940 --> 02:53:21,190 really love the country I love the 3865 02:53:25,590 --> 02:53:23,950 people up there and I look forward to 3866 02:53:26,670 --> 02:53:25,600 seeing it again unfortunately I'm gonna 3867 02:53:29,190 --> 02:53:26,680 be going to I mean I'm gonna be going to 3868 02:53:30,870 --> 02:53:29,200 Europe next on August the 1st I'm gonna 3869 02:53:35,240 --> 02:53:30,880 be there for a while but I'll be up 3870 02:53:39,090 --> 02:53:35,250 there soon enough and hopefully we'll 3871 02:53:40,770 --> 02:53:39,100 reach disclosure here and we'll all kind 3872 02:53:41,910 --> 02:53:40,780 of party a little bit it'll be fun 3873 02:53:44,370 --> 02:53:41,920 well the next time you're in the halls 3874 02:53:45,240 --> 02:53:44,380 of power here in Ottawa III know the 3875 02:53:47,160 --> 02:53:45,250 routes around I know all the good 3876 02:53:49,350 --> 02:53:47,170 poutine spots I know a good places where 3877 02:53:52,020 --> 02:53:49,360 you can get very good Ottawa craft beer 3878 02:53:56,790 --> 02:53:52,030 so when you're in town you let me know 3879 02:53:59,280 --> 02:53:56,800 and we will but we'll do the tour so 3880 02:54:01,710 --> 02:53:59,290 Chris my pleasure Stephen have a good 3881 02:54:03,780 --> 02:54:01,720 night thank you very much we are on to 3882 02:54:06,990 --> 02:54:03,790 our closing segment ladies and gentlemen 3883 02:54:09,420 --> 02:54:07,000 let me get the show on to the last spot 3884 02:54:15,480 --> 02:54:09,430 which is and oh my goodness that that 3885 02:54:16,830 --> 02:54:15,490 that that's panel is just jarring but 3886 02:54:18,960 --> 02:54:16,840 you know what I have one thing that will 3887 02:54:23,400 --> 02:54:18,970 get everyone else's attention and that 3888 02:54:28,590 --> 02:54:23,410 is our happy music because there is joy 3889 02:54:30,360 --> 02:54:28,600 in the restaurant thank you very much 3890 02:54:32,400 --> 02:54:30,370 Stephen Bassett to go check out paradigm 3891 02:54:36,180 --> 02:54:32,410 research group donate to the cause and 3892 02:54:40,200 --> 02:54:36,190 let us fight for disclosure because you 3893 02:54:41,880 --> 02:54:40,210 know what I may not be the most 3894 02:54:44,160 --> 02:54:41,890 open-minded person to every single 3895 02:54:46,140 --> 02:54:44,170 possibility out there but I do believe 3896 02:54:48,120 --> 02:54:46,150 in aliens because I've seen [\h__\h] you 3897 02:54:50,550 --> 02:54:48,130 guys would believe actually because 3898 02:54:52,260 --> 02:54:50,560 that's the show we're on but you know 3899 02:54:54,510 --> 02:54:52,270 even from my own family I actually had 3900 02:54:55,950 --> 02:54:54,520 one of my one of my wife's cousins for 3901 02:54:58,230 --> 02:54:55,960 Canada Day weekend we were sitting 3902 02:55:00,660 --> 02:54:58,240 around the fire at midnight on on one 3903 02:55:02,850 --> 02:55:00,670 weekend and I was telling her about the 3904 02:55:06,690 --> 02:55:02,860 show and and about this this you know 3905 02:55:08,969 --> 02:55:06,700 the John Anthony West you know cancer 3906 02:55:12,719 --> 02:55:08,979 can't cancer telethon we've done the 3907 02:55:16,050 --> 02:55:12,729 symposium that we were planning and I 3908 02:55:17,550 --> 02:55:16,060 was getting laughs like fall over laughs 3909 02:55:19,290 --> 02:55:17,560 and I would put that to the beer to a 3910 02:55:20,640 --> 02:55:19,300 certain extent but still I was getting 3911 02:55:22,710 --> 02:55:20,650 laughs and it was not even about the 3912 02:55:25,170 --> 02:55:22,720 subject matter it was about the name 3913 02:55:29,481 --> 02:55:25,180 magical he chipped and I'm like are you 3914 02:55:31,381 --> 02:55:29,491 like are you kidding me so 3915 02:55:32,731 --> 02:55:31,391 there are a lot of believers out there 3916 02:55:34,021 --> 02:55:32,741 there a lot of non-believers out there 3917 02:55:36,031 --> 02:55:34,031 the whole idea is to bring it into the 3918 02:55:38,251 --> 02:55:36,041 mainstream and get disclosure so that we 3919 02:55:40,921 --> 02:55:38,261 can actually talk about these subjects 3920 02:55:44,941 --> 02:55:40,931 without having some type of negative 3921 02:55:47,011 --> 02:55:44,951 connotation on to it so and mister no 3922 02:55:53,281 --> 02:55:47,021 I'm gonna call you mister no because I 3923 02:55:54,841 --> 02:55:53,291 could see pou Lu Dec wool this is bull 3924 02:55:56,461 --> 02:55:54,851 de says no thank you very much for the 3925 02:55:58,411 --> 02:55:56,471 support thank you for tuning in you're 3926 02:56:00,241 --> 02:55:58,421 heading out for the night awesome for 3927 02:56:04,681 --> 02:56:00,251 all of you are sticking around we have 3928 02:56:07,141 --> 02:56:04,691 the sandwich counter with mr. Denver 3929 02:56:10,531 --> 02:56:07,151 Michaels back on the show so I'm going 3930 02:56:12,541 --> 02:56:10,541 to bring Denver back on here we see 3931 02:56:16,951 --> 02:56:12,551 receiving we can talk about some 3932 02:56:20,311 --> 02:56:16,961 sandwiches here let's go my online the 3933 02:56:27,480 --> 02:56:20,321 online chat there is denver denver 3934 02:56:32,669 --> 02:56:27,490 denver are you on skype mr. michaels 3935 02:56:41,159 --> 02:56:35,459 mr. michaels we're expecting you we have 3936 02:56:44,729 --> 02:56:41,169 a sandwich to discuss and I've got some 3937 02:56:48,239 --> 02:56:44,739 pictures oh yes oh yes oh yes you are 3938 02:56:50,090 --> 02:56:48,249 online you are on I'm a my my glasses 3939 02:56:52,340 --> 02:56:50,100 again Denver 3940 02:56:53,869 --> 02:56:52,350 yeah this is actually the second time 3941 02:56:58,109 --> 02:56:53,879 there we go 3942 02:56:59,489 --> 02:56:58,119 this is the second time that that Steven 3943 02:57:01,859 --> 02:56:59,499 Bassett has said it's okay let's wrap 3944 02:57:03,539 --> 02:57:01,869 things up but he actually got the last 3945 02:57:05,159 --> 02:57:03,549 show short of course we were trying to 3946 02:57:09,510 --> 02:57:05,169 do the three-hour thing and also last 3947 02:57:11,519 --> 02:57:09,520 show in about four hours but today we 3948 02:57:14,760 --> 02:57:11,529 have none other than mr. Denver Michaels 3949 02:57:15,840 --> 02:57:14,770 himself Denver how you doing okay what's 3950 02:57:18,389 --> 02:57:15,850 up man 3951 02:57:21,029 --> 02:57:18,399 well you know we just we just had our 3952 02:57:23,389 --> 02:57:21,039 interview with with Steven Bassett this 3953 02:57:26,039 --> 02:57:23,399 is the first time we've had this happen 3954 02:57:28,979 --> 02:57:26,049 with a show and you know I should have 3955 02:57:32,429 --> 02:57:28,989 very good time yeah that was a good show 3956 02:57:34,379 --> 02:57:32,439 pretty pretty heavy stuff like I was 3957 02:57:36,709 --> 02:57:34,389 saying in Chad I don't necessarily buy 3958 02:57:39,840 --> 02:57:36,719 everything he's selling but I like his 3959 02:57:44,699 --> 02:57:39,850 passion he seems authentic and yeah I 3960 02:57:45,269 --> 02:57:44,709 like to listen to it well you know god 3961 02:57:48,510 --> 02:57:45,279 damn it 3962 02:57:50,010 --> 02:57:48,520 I'm looking at the shrinking bottle of 3963 02:57:52,409 --> 02:57:50,020 and I buy scotch in quantity 3964 02:57:56,249 --> 02:57:52,419 specifically for the cost savings and a 3965 02:57:59,969 --> 02:57:56,259 bottle like this like the it's the 13th 3966 02:58:03,629 --> 02:57:59,979 so I won I bought two bottles and won 3967 02:58:06,539 --> 02:58:03,639 again that's what this was on on yellow 3968 02:58:08,369 --> 02:58:06,549 it was on the MasterCard and Christmas 3969 02:58:10,109 --> 02:58:08,379 not Christmas candidate he came around 3970 02:58:11,249 --> 02:58:10,119 I'm like I'm gonna have one two three 3971 02:58:12,929 --> 02:58:11,259 four I have a lot of guys who drink 3972 02:58:15,179 --> 02:58:12,939 scotch at the cottage and I'm one of the 3973 02:58:16,739 --> 02:58:15,189 guys who rents the cottage on a monthly 3974 02:58:18,510 --> 02:58:16,749 basis so I'm like okay I'm gonna host 3975 02:58:20,760 --> 02:58:18,520 I'm gonna bring some goddamn scotch up 3976 02:58:23,039 --> 02:58:20,770 we finished one bottle off within the 3977 02:58:25,109 --> 02:58:23,049 first day and a half we didn't touch the 3978 02:58:28,679 --> 02:58:25,119 second bottle until we got home so a 3979 02:58:31,429 --> 02:58:28,689 bottle like this lasts me two episodes 3980 02:58:33,809 --> 02:58:31,439 plus an entire week of tireless work of 3981 02:58:36,910 --> 02:58:33,819 graphic design for John Anthony West 3982 02:58:40,270 --> 02:58:36,920 until 3 o'clock in the morning sometimes 3983 02:58:43,510 --> 02:58:40,280 but that is besides the point that's a 3984 02:58:45,580 --> 02:58:43,520 lot of scotch man you know what it's I 3985 02:58:48,820 --> 02:58:45,590 don't I normally only do it yeah I 3986 02:58:50,110 --> 02:58:48,830 didn't you well it's not just myself 3987 02:58:51,250 --> 02:58:50,120 like again this is also two weeks worth 3988 02:58:53,320 --> 02:58:51,260 of drinking right like I don't drink 3989 02:58:55,929 --> 02:58:53,330 beer I don't drink wine I drink scotch 3990 02:58:57,640 --> 02:58:55,939 and I only drink in the studio when I'm 3991 02:58:59,080 --> 02:58:57,650 more like what I'm gonna say I'm working 3992 02:59:02,710 --> 02:58:59,090 I'm in advertising this is what I do we 3993 02:59:06,670 --> 02:59:02,720 drink scotch we make ads we design cool 3994 02:59:08,110 --> 02:59:06,680 [\h__\h] and have some fun you have to be 3995 02:59:11,590 --> 02:59:08,120 able to loosen up especially when you're 3996 02:59:13,150 --> 02:59:11,600 stressed out okay so first thing I'm 3997 02:59:14,679 --> 02:59:13,160 gonna mention for all the ladies and 3998 02:59:17,260 --> 02:59:14,689 gentlemen at home if you are listening 3999 02:59:19,210 --> 02:59:17,270 to the program support the show 4000 02:59:22,510 --> 02:59:19,220 patreon.com forward slash down of lore 4001 02:59:24,040 --> 02:59:22,520 become become a patron if you like the 4002 02:59:27,280 --> 02:59:24,050 content we bring if you love the guests 4003 02:59:29,710 --> 02:59:27,290 if you love her as any theme pledge $1 a 4004 02:59:32,560 --> 02:59:29,720 month $1 a month and you can get entered 4005 02:59:35,250 --> 02:59:32,570 into our monthly contest and rocky stood 4006 02:59:41,590 --> 02:59:35,260 she is saying loll I'm not judging you 4007 02:59:44,050 --> 02:59:41,600 haha J AJ a rocky you Italian wonderful 4008 02:59:46,300 --> 02:59:44,060 son of a gun a you're a wine drinker 4009 02:59:49,120 --> 02:59:46,310 please move over to the dark side drink 4010 02:59:51,370 --> 02:59:49,130 drink drink the space side we'll have 4011 02:59:53,140 --> 02:59:51,380 some fun you hang on to Scotty Roberts 4012 02:59:55,960 --> 02:59:53,150 for God's sakes how is he not got you in 4013 02:59:58,840 --> 02:59:55,970 a scotch at this point but I digress 4014 03:00:01,870 --> 02:59:58,850 it's pretty good it's all dependent on 4015 03:00:04,450 --> 03:00:01,880 taste the main important thing is if you 4016 03:00:05,500 --> 03:00:04,460 do I'm justifying my drinking [\h__\h] it I 4017 03:00:09,330 --> 03:00:05,510 drink as I like it 4018 03:00:11,560 --> 03:00:09,340 Marc Catalano and yes I'm just giving 4019 03:00:13,360 --> 03:00:11,570 justification we great because we're 4020 03:00:15,340 --> 03:00:13,370 alcoholics I mean who cares right 4021 03:00:18,460 --> 03:00:15,350 no no alcoholics go to meetings I am a 4022 03:00:21,219 --> 03:00:18,470 knowledge seeker all right in an 4023 03:00:23,440 --> 03:00:21,229 advertiser this is long stay off the 4024 03:00:25,210 --> 03:00:23,450 roads and don't hurt anybody who cares 4025 03:00:27,400 --> 03:00:25,220 oh god no I I do not drink Pat like 4026 03:00:30,510 --> 03:00:27,410 before five o'clock I don't even and 4027 03:00:32,020 --> 03:00:30,520 mark says I justify my drinking I 4028 03:00:36,610 --> 03:00:32,030 justify to you people 4029 03:00:38,020 --> 03:00:36,620 the drinking for those mark I don't 4030 03:00:41,679 --> 03:00:38,030 drink a lot on trip with you people all 4031 03:00:44,239 --> 03:00:41,689 the listeners at home we drink together 4032 03:00:46,550 --> 03:00:44,249 but in a search for knowledge that's why 4033 03:00:48,019 --> 03:00:46,560 we learn cool [\h__\h] and not discover the 4034 03:00:49,489 --> 03:00:48,029 ancient mysteries above above above 4035 03:00:50,630 --> 03:00:49,499 because it's like [\h__\h] a definite 4036 03:00:54,460 --> 03:00:50,640 like three scotches like I just wanna 4037 03:00:57,380 --> 03:00:54,470 learn cool [\h__\h] good enough but anyway 4038 03:01:00,889 --> 03:00:57,390 support the show patreon.com 4/10 of 4039 03:01:03,649 --> 03:01:00,899 lore or go to den of lore calm ford 4040 03:01:07,210 --> 03:01:03,659 slash support and donate if you want to 4041 03:01:09,649 --> 03:01:07,220 donate by paypal again we have 4042 03:01:11,779 --> 03:01:09,659 individuals and lovers of the show who 4043 03:01:12,979 --> 03:01:11,789 do that mr. Schultz I'm looking at you 4044 03:01:14,599 --> 03:01:12,989 thank you very much for your support 4045 03:01:15,769 --> 03:01:14,609 Danny ker thank you very much for your 4046 03:01:17,809 --> 03:01:15,779 support over the months 4047 03:01:20,569 --> 03:01:17,819 it is much appreciated you believe 4048 03:01:23,869 --> 03:01:20,579 because we believe in no [\h__\h] and 4049 03:01:26,119 --> 03:01:23,879 just having fun while we learn and again 4050 03:01:27,439 --> 03:01:26,129 help me fix this goddamn play I fix this 4051 03:01:30,319 --> 03:01:27,449 thing three four [\h__\h] times at this 4052 03:01:31,909 --> 03:01:30,329 point like I'm seriously about to put 4053 03:01:34,939 --> 03:01:31,919 some hammer nails to this goddamn wall 4054 03:01:39,679 --> 03:01:34,949 I'm trying to not damage it for the baby 4055 03:01:41,000 --> 03:01:39,689 for when it comes so my wife's like if 4056 03:01:43,639 --> 03:01:41,010 you put another hole in the wall I'm 4057 03:01:45,649 --> 03:01:43,649 going to kill you I read sound paneling 4058 03:01:49,790 --> 03:01:45,659 all around this room each one of those 4059 03:01:51,829 --> 03:01:49,800 panels has five to ten screws in it per 4060 03:01:56,599 --> 03:01:51,839 panel there's gonna be so much stucco in 4061 03:01:57,920 --> 03:01:56,609 here come Co November it's a good look 4062 03:02:01,300 --> 03:01:57,930 like a Pollock painting after it's done 4063 03:02:03,889 --> 03:02:01,310 so please so we can build a new studio 4064 03:02:06,290 --> 03:02:03,899 by some very very fine but very 4065 03:02:07,460 --> 03:02:06,300 inexpensive scotch in quantity so we can 4066 03:02:09,529 --> 03:02:07,470 bring the entertainment you're used to 4067 03:02:13,429 --> 03:02:09,539 having and ensure that we can continue 4068 03:02:15,769 --> 03:02:13,439 to expand our professional at home 4069 03:02:19,159 --> 03:02:15,779 studio to bring you shows week after 4070 03:02:21,619 --> 03:02:19,169 week and full of a god to to pay goddamn 4071 03:02:24,079 --> 03:02:21,629 intern help me get some help in here 4072 03:02:25,989 --> 03:02:24,089 help me like a trained big sexy when he 4073 03:02:28,699 --> 03:02:25,999 money when he's done a summer show 4074 03:02:32,569 --> 03:02:28,709 support the show and also as I mentioned 4075 03:02:35,149 --> 03:02:32,579 before Sean to 10th floor comm tees tank 4076 03:02:39,010 --> 03:02:35,159 tops hats woman's men's sizes dark light 4077 03:02:41,469 --> 03:02:39,020 your special 20% off 4078 03:02:45,850 --> 03:02:41,479 promo code that is good until July 18th 4079 03:02:49,780 --> 03:02:45,860 at 12 a.m. go shop top 10 of Lord calm 4080 03:02:52,390 --> 03:02:49,790 the web address is right here if you're 4081 03:02:54,160 --> 03:02:52,400 watching my video and go check it out 4082 03:02:55,450 --> 03:02:54,170 if you want to design on there or if you 4083 03:02:57,940 --> 03:02:55,460 think that we should have something cool 4084 03:02:59,640 --> 03:02:57,950 let us know I will [\h__\h] make it for 4085 03:03:03,550 --> 03:02:59,650 you I'm a designer this is what I do 4086 03:03:04,510 --> 03:03:03,560 anyway getting on to the last segment at 4087 03:03:08,410 --> 03:03:04,520 hand 4088 03:03:10,240 --> 03:03:08,420 my plugging is done we have a very 4089 03:03:11,890 --> 03:03:10,250 interesting contest 4090 03:03:14,560 --> 03:03:11,900 I never been contest this just a segment 4091 03:03:16,270 --> 03:03:14,570 because Denver what do we have for the 4092 03:03:20,680 --> 03:03:16,280 beginning of this year that ran until 4093 03:03:22,000 --> 03:03:20,690 June sandwich contest can you describe 4094 03:03:23,350 --> 03:03:22,010 the sandwich contest what was your 4095 03:03:26,290 --> 03:03:23,360 experience with sandwich Condor how 4096 03:03:28,600 --> 03:03:26,300 people would send a sandwich and you 4097 03:03:31,870 --> 03:03:28,610 know they would give the recipe and then 4098 03:03:34,180 --> 03:03:31,880 I would try the sandwich and many of the 4099 03:03:36,490 --> 03:03:34,190 sandwiches I would take out into the 4100 03:03:39,670 --> 03:03:36,500 field when I was doing something and 4101 03:03:41,890 --> 03:03:39,680 make videos or whatnot but didn't it at 4102 03:03:45,910 --> 03:03:41,900 any rate I would rate the sandwich on a 4103 03:03:49,510 --> 03:03:45,920 scale of one to ten and you know kind of 4104 03:03:51,760 --> 03:03:49,520 criticize it or or praise it live on the 4105 03:03:54,490 --> 03:03:51,770 air Ellen I know you left a couple hours 4106 03:03:56,230 --> 03:03:54,500 ago up yeah her sandwich got killed 4107 03:03:58,930 --> 03:03:56,240 sooner mp's but you know what that 4108 03:04:01,240 --> 03:03:58,940 sandwich actually got it actually got a 4109 03:04:01,980 --> 03:04:01,250 prize because there's the worst anger oh 4110 03:04:06,040 --> 03:04:01,990 yeah 4111 03:04:07,900 --> 03:04:06,050 so we decided to begin this is because 4112 03:04:14,020 --> 03:04:07,910 we got such great feedback on this theme 4113 03:04:16,480 --> 03:04:14,030 music to continue the sandwich theme for 4114 03:04:17,950 --> 03:04:16,490 a closing segment until infinity or 4115 03:04:20,410 --> 03:04:17,960 until Denver get sick and tired of us 4116 03:04:23,050 --> 03:04:20,420 and says screw you Chris I'm moving on 4117 03:04:25,750 --> 03:04:23,060 to the big times I found Loch Ness your 4118 03:04:27,219 --> 03:04:25,760 sandwiches fed me but now all they would 4119 03:04:30,120 --> 03:04:27,229 have Phoebe now and I know he will not 4120 03:04:32,140 --> 03:04:30,130 do that because Denver is [\h__\h] awesome 4121 03:04:34,120 --> 03:04:32,150 so we're like we're just gonna have this 4122 03:04:37,900 --> 03:04:34,130 whole fun theme we're gonna pick a 4123 03:04:40,990 --> 03:04:37,910 sandwich a week make it taste it read it 4124 03:04:44,650 --> 03:04:41,000 and then provide everyone out there with 4125 03:04:46,870 --> 03:04:44,660 the recipe the day after the show just 4126 03:04:48,160 --> 03:04:46,880 just for shits and giggles just because 4127 03:04:50,230 --> 03:04:48,170 it's it's funny [\h__\h] and this is the 4128 03:04:52,570 --> 03:04:50,240 whole theme of the show we or anything 4129 03:04:55,990 --> 03:04:52,580 can happen and script yeah 4130 03:05:00,340 --> 03:04:56,000 that so Denver what was the sandwich 4131 03:05:06,130 --> 03:05:00,350 last week well the sandwich last week 4132 03:05:13,720 --> 03:05:06,140 was a it was a chili pork a spicy pork 4133 03:05:14,860 --> 03:05:13,730 Sumida and was pretty damn good I'm 4134 03:05:17,830 --> 03:05:14,870 gonna see if I can get a picture up here 4135 03:05:19,750 --> 03:05:17,840 now we had Michael Washington on and I 4136 03:05:21,490 --> 03:05:19,760 put a picture out on Twitter today but 4137 03:05:23,470 --> 03:05:21,500 it kind of it's it doesn't really do it 4138 03:05:26,560 --> 03:05:23,480 justice because the real samhita is like 4139 03:05:29,410 --> 03:05:26,570 on a real so meter roll I had to kind of 4140 03:05:33,250 --> 03:05:29,420 substitute mine with a hamburger bun but 4141 03:05:36,011 --> 03:05:33,260 now you know whatever we do what we can 4142 03:05:37,330 --> 03:05:36,021 and Michael actually he's a culinary 4143 03:05:39,910 --> 03:05:37,340 artist I'm trying to see if I can get 4144 03:05:41,290 --> 03:05:39,920 Michael on the line you know what I'm 4145 03:05:41,980 --> 03:05:41,300 gonna see if I can call him give me give 4146 03:05:44,290 --> 03:05:41,990 me a second here 4147 03:05:46,990 --> 03:05:44,300 yeah go ahead he's uh he's got a 4148 03:05:48,551 --> 03:05:47,000 culinary background yes he does and he 4149 03:05:52,590 --> 03:05:48,561 he sent some very interesting pictures 4150 03:05:55,690 --> 03:05:52,600 that I actually have ready yeah he's uh 4151 03:06:00,280 --> 03:05:55,700 he's more of an authority on this than 4152 03:06:02,650 --> 03:06:00,290 me let's see here I'm gonna try and get 4153 03:06:06,640 --> 03:06:02,660 this up here 4154 03:06:08,470 --> 03:06:06,650 it's so [\h__\h] catchy no this means it 4155 03:06:13,301 --> 03:06:08,480 just stays in my head for like the whole 4156 03:06:15,011 --> 03:06:13,311 day after the show it's just insane I'm 4157 03:06:18,580 --> 03:06:15,021 just driving down the road with that 4158 03:06:19,810 --> 03:06:18,590 piano riff going through my head so is 4159 03:06:21,160 --> 03:06:19,820 that what you hang out on the show so 4160 03:06:23,110 --> 03:06:21,170 much cuz like I got to hear that music 4161 03:06:24,970 --> 03:06:23,120 one more time yeah I mean I'm just 4162 03:06:26,900 --> 03:06:24,980 waiting for the music you know [\h__\h] the 4163 03:06:28,440 --> 03:06:26,910 guests I'm just waiting for the music 4164 03:06:31,900 --> 03:06:28,450 [Music] 4165 03:06:33,940 --> 03:06:31,910 alright so I'm gonna bring numb better 4166 03:06:35,280 --> 03:06:33,950 call him and we'll see what happens this 4167 03:06:41,460 --> 03:06:35,290 might be a prank call 4168 03:06:43,620 --> 03:06:41,470 [Music] 4169 03:06:45,179 --> 03:06:43,630 and mr. our Schultz and again thank you 4170 03:06:48,269 --> 03:06:45,189 very much for your support being a crow 4171 03:06:50,760 --> 03:06:48,279 it is no whoa now I know why here you 4172 03:06:51,750 --> 03:06:50,770 type in like a fevered madman I'm a 4173 03:06:52,320 --> 03:06:51,760 fevered madman because I'm in 4174 03:06:55,110 --> 03:06:52,330 advertising 4175 03:06:59,690 --> 03:06:55,120 Madison Avenue man that's where it came 4176 03:07:01,590 --> 03:06:59,700 from but yes same thing a mr. Huntington 4177 03:07:04,650 --> 03:07:01,600 mr. Huntington Wow 4178 03:07:05,940 --> 03:07:04,660 hello this is a ATT calling would you 4179 03:07:11,700 --> 03:07:05,950 like to switch your long distance 4180 03:07:15,510 --> 03:07:11,710 provider all right what this is this is 4181 03:07:16,710 --> 03:07:15,520 AT&T phone company calling and we would 4182 03:07:20,219 --> 03:07:16,720 like to know if you would like to change 4183 03:07:23,010 --> 03:07:20,229 your long distance provider we have 4184 03:07:24,480 --> 03:07:23,020 probably not but we have new plans that 4185 03:07:28,920 --> 03:07:24,490 reach out to Mars 4186 03:07:40,170 --> 03:07:28,930 Neptune Alpha Centauri and even Kepler 4187 03:07:43,679 --> 03:07:40,180 two five nine three Zeta Q in it so what 4188 03:07:50,700 --> 03:07:43,689 only cost you a plug of the den of lore 4189 03:07:51,870 --> 03:07:50,710 is [\h__\h] awesome from you you've heard 4190 03:07:56,550 --> 03:07:51,880 of your foot what you've heard here 4191 03:07:59,250 --> 03:07:56,560 first folks that rabbit though mr. 4192 03:08:01,349 --> 03:07:59,260 Michaelson excuse me mr. ha mr. 4193 03:08:04,170 --> 03:08:01,359 Huntington I've had a fair bit of scotch 4194 03:08:06,059 --> 03:08:04,180 not as much as last week thankfully but 4195 03:08:06,420 --> 03:08:06,069 still thank you for joining us on the 4196 03:08:07,920 --> 03:08:06,430 program 4197 03:08:09,330 --> 03:08:07,930 I told Dan from like this is gonna be a 4198 03:08:13,530 --> 03:08:09,340 prank call and it's gonna be [\h__\h] 4199 03:08:16,170 --> 03:08:13,540 awesome we're in our final segment and I 4200 03:08:20,460 --> 03:08:16,180 wanted to show the images that you sent 4201 03:08:22,860 --> 03:08:20,470 me because this to me that was oh don't 4202 03:08:25,500 --> 03:08:22,870 tell Meg I'm willing to leave her for 4203 03:08:27,750 --> 03:08:25,510 you if if you make sandwiches like that 4204 03:08:34,650 --> 03:08:27,760 every single life because holy [\h__\h] and 4205 03:08:37,590 --> 03:08:34,660 she makes amazing sandwiches oh my god 4206 03:08:39,750 --> 03:08:37,600 okay I'm gonna put on the shared screen 4207 03:08:41,130 --> 03:08:39,760 first which because I had a goddamn 4208 03:08:45,090 --> 03:08:41,140 hamburger 4209 03:08:50,880 --> 03:08:45,100 Perrine Denver you would be very remiss 4210 03:08:52,979 --> 03:08:50,890 to know that yeah I I got a Paul I 4211 03:08:56,130 --> 03:08:52,989 couldn't even find all the spices in my 4212 03:08:57,899 --> 03:08:56,140 local shopping Mart although my local 4213 03:08:59,819 --> 03:08:57,909 shopping Mart apparently had Black Widow 4214 03:09:03,809 --> 03:08:59,829 [\h__\h] spiders and grapes recently so 4215 03:09:06,149 --> 03:09:03,819 I've been avoiding that place might be 4216 03:09:08,130 --> 03:09:06,159 some witch doctor [\h__\h] oh god it's like 4217 03:09:10,859 --> 03:09:08,140 I'm in Canada we don't have that here 4218 03:09:12,989 --> 03:09:10,869 like what nah maybe you do what did they 4219 03:09:16,920 --> 03:09:12,999 import the grapes from like Mexico 4220 03:09:19,500 --> 03:09:16,930 that's where they get them from it'sit's 4221 03:09:23,040 --> 03:09:19,510 quite quite bad so first of all I'm 4222 03:09:38,399 --> 03:09:23,050 going to show the sandwich to Denver so 4223 03:09:41,279 --> 03:09:38,409 he takes a look is the tomato first of 4224 03:09:44,399 --> 03:09:41,289 all I made no sock and they ruin 4225 03:09:46,469 --> 03:09:44,409 everything except for pizza but yeah oh 4226 03:09:50,219 --> 03:09:46,479 my god I'm so hungry right now okay so 4227 03:09:53,309 --> 03:09:50,229 yeah just this this guy's awesome let me 4228 03:09:55,159 --> 03:09:53,319 let me I have to find the group chat 4229 03:09:58,170 --> 03:09:55,169 that we had and actually had chat open 4230 03:10:01,109 --> 03:09:58,180 specifically to find it and we got back 4231 03:10:03,719 --> 03:10:01,119 up at the hole Steve Bassett is missing 4232 03:10:06,449 --> 03:10:03,729 in action and possibly presumed well if 4233 03:10:09,269 --> 03:10:06,459 he's on the show presumed drunk g-men 4234 03:10:11,040 --> 03:10:09,279 alien abduction who knows but we found 4235 03:10:14,000 --> 03:10:11,050 him it was mix-up with schedule 4236 03:10:20,090 --> 03:10:14,010 thankfully so let me see here Denver 4237 03:10:23,010 --> 03:10:20,100 Michaels dead revival okay so this the 4238 03:10:27,119 --> 03:10:23,020 specific recipe and I'm gonna give the 4239 03:10:30,090 --> 03:10:27,129 credit to Epicurus calm this is from 4240 03:10:34,099 --> 03:10:30,100 2000 it's a 2004 recipe believe it or 4241 03:10:37,199 --> 03:10:34,109 not samhitas de carne and shilada 4242 03:10:39,569 --> 03:10:37,209 Samhita is an oversized slightly sweet 4243 03:10:42,659 --> 03:10:39,579 sesame seed bun that gives the pueblan 4244 03:10:43,889 --> 03:10:42,669 sandwich its name active time one hour 4245 03:10:48,650 --> 03:10:43,899 start to finish 4246 03:10:54,530 --> 03:10:48,660 three hours total time 4247 03:10:56,210 --> 03:10:54,540 and it did this recipe I made about it 4248 03:10:59,540 --> 03:10:56,220 oh Jesus Christ okay so we're gonna 4249 03:11:02,660 --> 03:10:59,550 cheat I did too I didn't think my wife 4250 03:11:04,280 --> 03:11:02,670 made them tonight for us and it didn't 4251 03:11:06,650 --> 03:11:04,290 take that long I mean I'm sure we cut 4252 03:11:08,450 --> 03:11:06,660 some corners all right so I'm being told 4253 03:11:13,690 --> 03:11:08,460 to show the [\h__\h] sandwich Thank You 4254 03:11:15,710 --> 03:11:13,700 Rocky and now okay this is this is the 4255 03:11:20,090 --> 03:11:15,720 sandwich that we've that we've seen I'm 4256 03:11:22,849 --> 03:11:20,100 going to turn off the Weber's view hide 4257 03:11:25,849 --> 03:11:22,859 sidebar thank you all right full screen 4258 03:11:29,000 --> 03:11:25,859 there we go so this is the sandwich 4259 03:11:30,080 --> 03:11:29,010 preparation now Michael again thank you 4260 03:11:32,719 --> 03:11:30,090 very much for joining us on the show for 4261 03:11:34,070 --> 03:11:32,729 four short notice I'm fairly certain you 4262 03:11:35,540 --> 03:11:34,080 didn't think I was actually serious I 4263 03:11:38,929 --> 03:11:35,550 would bring you back on but I remember 4264 03:11:58,160 --> 03:11:38,939 this [\h__\h] tell us your process what is 4265 03:12:01,310 --> 03:11:58,170 happening with the sandwich luckily I 4266 03:12:08,420 --> 03:12:01,320 had everything except for the cilantro I 4267 03:12:11,780 --> 03:12:08,430 actually had used different greens my 4268 03:12:15,860 --> 03:12:11,790 program and I chopped those up 4269 03:12:23,420 --> 03:12:15,870 which actually I had some cilantro in it 4270 03:12:44,030 --> 03:12:23,430 so I guess I did know I was a whole pork 4271 03:12:56,090 --> 03:12:44,040 chop that up you made your bomb yeah are 4272 03:12:58,550 --> 03:12:56,100 you out of like who are you you're a 4273 03:13:02,390 --> 03:12:58,560 chef it's not that it's not that 4274 03:13:05,240 --> 03:13:02,400 difficult sandwich you know 4275 03:13:08,810 --> 03:13:05,250 breath away hammer you know anything 4276 03:13:10,761 --> 03:13:08,820 like that sure yeah the big thing is 17 4277 03:13:12,560 --> 03:13:10,771 they're handsome in that you don't give 4278 03:13:16,220 --> 03:13:12,570 me on use on songs and everything that 4279 03:13:17,600 --> 03:13:16,230 ready to go and then boom boom boom I'd 4280 03:13:19,671 --> 03:13:17,610 try to make it look like the picture I 4281 03:13:22,581 --> 03:13:19,681 think I actually mom actually looks 4282 03:13:25,551 --> 03:13:22,591 better than the picture but they're 4283 03:13:36,230 --> 03:13:25,561 curious picture try and move on here 4284 03:13:38,390 --> 03:13:36,240 with really spice it is a choice for but 4285 03:13:41,331 --> 03:13:38,400 yeah I think that if you you know 4286 03:13:44,480 --> 03:13:41,341 multiply the year see the amount there 4287 03:13:47,720 --> 03:13:44,490 you can you can make a big badass drop 4288 03:13:53,690 --> 03:13:47,730 which I think probably you better let it 4289 03:13:57,020 --> 03:13:53,700 go with that but yeah okay and the main 4290 03:13:59,421 --> 03:13:57,030 question is because I'm gonna be you 4291 03:14:00,711 --> 03:13:59,431 know full honest a truthful I couldn't 4292 03:14:04,341 --> 03:14:00,721 find the [\h__\h] to be able to make it and 4293 03:14:06,621 --> 03:14:04,351 I think cilantro is like the the the 4294 03:14:08,421 --> 03:14:06,631 devil's lettuce of culinary arts in 4295 03:14:12,591 --> 03:14:08,431 terms of like it's it's [\h__\h] parsley 4296 03:14:14,121 --> 03:14:12,601 like you can't salon you're wrong I know 4297 03:14:15,700 --> 03:14:14,131 I'm wrong I don't I'm not just being 4298 03:14:18,680 --> 03:14:15,710 dramatic 4299 03:14:20,810 --> 03:14:18,690 what and Denver I'm going to try and 4300 03:14:22,791 --> 03:14:20,820 find yours at the same time because it 4301 03:14:24,831 --> 03:14:22,801 is not so well mine don't look like that 4302 03:14:27,921 --> 03:14:24,841 mine's an embarrassment mine's a joke 4303 03:14:30,200 --> 03:14:27,931 don't you know your water that you're an 4304 03:14:32,751 --> 03:14:30,210 engineer you make [\h__\h] work mom election 4305 03:14:35,600 --> 03:14:32,761 ugly girl next to the pretty girl don't 4306 03:14:38,211 --> 03:14:35,610 do it you know I'm I'm gonna do it just 4307 03:14:41,660 --> 03:14:38,221 based on the fact that you were a very 4308 03:14:43,371 --> 03:14:41,670 good sport the last several months so 4309 03:14:45,921 --> 03:14:43,381 now you're gonna embarrass my sandwich 4310 03:14:47,751 --> 03:14:45,931 nation it is your cryptozoologist that's 4311 03:14:49,910 --> 03:14:47,761 been to the Amazon you have been 4312 03:14:52,671 --> 03:14:49,920 searching for a Loch Ness to Bigfoot to 4313 03:14:56,060 --> 03:14:52,681 the Mothman and you did a sandwich 4314 03:14:57,770 --> 03:14:56,070 contest for six [\h__\h] months I think 4315 03:15:01,220 --> 03:14:57,780 you're okay but if this guy makes his 4316 03:15:05,001 --> 03:15:01,230 own bread so [\h__\h] chef for God's sakes 4317 03:15:06,230 --> 03:15:05,011 you ready now okay okay I'm just gonna 4318 03:15:09,650 --> 03:15:06,240 say this here first of all 4319 03:15:12,230 --> 03:15:09,660 Denver's engineering capabilities are 4320 03:15:14,421 --> 03:15:12,240 amazing when it comes to cryptozoology I 4321 03:15:16,190 --> 03:15:14,431 trust his word over anything else out 4322 03:15:18,381 --> 03:15:16,200 there because you know I know the man 4323 03:15:24,830 --> 03:15:18,391 I know the quality of character he has 4324 03:15:27,560 --> 03:15:24,840 which is top-notch this is legit this is 4325 03:15:31,070 --> 03:15:27,570 a purchase as an embarrassment folks if 4326 03:15:32,511 --> 03:15:31,080 you are in Mexico please do not send us 4327 03:15:34,761 --> 03:15:32,521 you know send us hate mail I get it all 4328 03:15:36,860 --> 03:15:34,771 the time well actually I don't like one 4329 03:15:39,860 --> 03:15:36,870 hate mail message like every two months 4330 03:15:42,230 --> 03:15:39,870 and I just usually delete it or read it 4331 03:15:46,060 --> 03:15:42,240 out on Erika's it's hilarious and this 4332 03:15:48,710 --> 03:15:46,070 is a Samina but with a hamburger bun 4333 03:15:50,360 --> 03:15:48,720 alright I'm going to blow the image up 4334 03:15:52,190 --> 03:15:50,370 just a little bit here let's see I had 4335 03:15:53,330 --> 03:15:52,200 all the other ingredients though except 4336 03:15:56,120 --> 03:15:53,340 for the tomato 4337 03:15:59,900 --> 03:15:56,130 I left the tomato out what did you use 4338 03:16:01,490 --> 03:15:59,910 to people to have a side by side here 4339 03:16:03,950 --> 03:16:01,500 just so we can have an actual accurate 4340 03:16:08,631 --> 03:16:03,960 look at what's going on here people to 4341 03:16:10,551 --> 03:16:08,641 compare engineer on the left and it's 4342 03:16:12,381 --> 03:16:10,561 it's not pretty but it pains too damn 4343 03:16:14,631 --> 03:16:12,391 good and if someone would have submitted 4344 03:16:16,671 --> 03:16:14,641 this in the contest it would have kicked 4345 03:16:19,390 --> 03:16:16,681 them and we would have kicked Kevin off 4346 03:16:22,520 --> 03:16:19,400 the top spot this was a good sandwich 4347 03:16:24,591 --> 03:16:22,530 it's ugly as hell but it's good it 4348 03:16:29,270 --> 03:16:24,601 tastes good rocky stood she is saying 4349 03:16:31,671 --> 03:16:29,280 did you beat it with a hammer um no I 4350 03:16:37,850 --> 03:16:31,681 didn't I didn't beat it beat it with a 4351 03:16:39,470 --> 03:16:37,860 hammer you know it's it's it's a solid 4352 03:16:41,841 --> 03:16:39,480 sandwich it tastes good 4353 03:16:45,261 --> 03:16:41,851 nothing it's not as pretty as this guy's 4354 03:16:46,910 --> 03:16:45,271 but you know it tasted good okay now I 4355 03:16:50,120 --> 03:16:46,920 have to say one thing is that Marc 4356 03:16:53,150 --> 03:16:50,130 Catalano is stating it looks like 4357 03:16:56,660 --> 03:16:53,160 parsley did you use no no it is not 4358 03:16:58,580 --> 03:16:56,670 parsley it is cilantro okay it is actual 4359 03:17:00,830 --> 03:16:58,590 you know I'll fight over that it is 4360 03:17:04,850 --> 03:17:00,840 cilantro that's that's fresh cilantro 4361 03:17:07,820 --> 03:17:04,860 right there like 60 avvocato was was - 4362 03:17:10,280 --> 03:17:07,830 right cuz we just got it today in the 4363 03:17:12,801 --> 03:17:10,290 supermarket just had like freaking hard 4364 03:17:15,890 --> 03:17:12,811 avocados because I couldn't smash it up 4365 03:17:17,750 --> 03:17:15,900 real nice like his so yeah you know I 4366 03:17:20,091 --> 03:17:17,760 mean it looks like [\h__\h] but it tasted 4367 03:17:21,350 --> 03:17:20,101 good okay so for all those at home I'm 4368 03:17:23,091 --> 03:17:21,360 gonna give you the recipe very very 4369 03:17:26,870 --> 03:17:23,101 quickly here and I'm gonna post this on 4370 03:17:28,219 --> 03:17:26,880 den of Lord calm I just just just check 4371 03:17:29,330 --> 03:17:28,229 the news it'll be there 4372 03:17:30,710 --> 03:17:29,340 the update that use like once a month at 4373 03:17:32,510 --> 03:17:30,720 this point because I'm so [\h__\h] busy 4374 03:17:35,000 --> 03:17:32,520 by the way if you want to be involved 4375 03:17:36,679 --> 03:17:35,010 with the show you will get some 4376 03:17:38,689 --> 03:17:36,689 recognition maybe some ridicule every 4377 03:17:41,719 --> 03:17:38,699 now and again on YouTube but at the end 4378 03:17:43,550 --> 03:17:41,729 of the day your participation will be 4379 03:17:44,840 --> 03:17:43,560 greatly appreciated and you'll go down 4380 03:17:47,840 --> 03:17:44,850 as being one of the coolest [\h__\h] 4381 03:17:51,319 --> 03:17:47,850 people in paranormal radio info ten of 4382 03:17:53,660 --> 03:17:51,329 Lord calm and subject matter re make me 4383 03:17:57,080 --> 03:17:53,670 the [\h__\h] intern send that to me send 4384 03:18:00,739 --> 03:17:57,090 me a picture of your face and I I will I 4385 03:18:01,790 --> 03:18:00,749 will read your CV out on radio and 4386 03:18:02,929 --> 03:18:01,800 either end of the month I'm going to 4387 03:18:05,389 --> 03:18:02,939 choose the end of the summer I will 4388 03:18:09,639 --> 03:18:05,399 choose somebody I need an intern whether 4389 03:18:12,319 --> 03:18:09,649 you're in in Tuktoyaktuk or in Patagonia 4390 03:18:16,130 --> 03:18:12,329 getting back to the subject matter at 4391 03:18:18,229 --> 03:18:16,140 hand get your pen pens and paper ready 4392 03:18:21,469 --> 03:18:18,239 you hundreds of people and thousands of 4393 03:18:26,660 --> 03:18:21,479 people at home ingredients for chili 4394 03:18:27,979 --> 03:18:26,670 marinated pork six dried guajillo she 4395 03:18:29,420 --> 03:18:27,989 lays somebody correct me if I'm 4396 03:18:32,059 --> 03:18:29,430 pronouncing that incorrectly which is 4397 03:18:36,670 --> 03:18:32,069 about quad guajillo well gee I'm 4398 03:18:40,059 --> 03:18:36,680 Canadian 1 and 1/2 ounces so 6 dried 4399 03:18:42,670 --> 03:18:40,069 guajillo chiles 4400 03:18:48,569 --> 03:18:42,680 one and a half ounces one dried ancho 4401 03:18:53,130 --> 03:18:48,579 chile one half ounce for thin which is a 4402 03:18:55,179 --> 03:18:53,140 1/2 inch rib pork chop one pound total 4403 03:19:01,199 --> 03:18:55,189 throw out the bones if you can get 4404 03:19:04,719 --> 03:19:01,209 boneless go for it 1/2 tsp cumin seeds 4405 03:19:10,090 --> 03:19:04,729 1/4 tsp black pepper corns one whole 4406 03:19:14,859 --> 03:19:10,100 clove of garlic whole clove one and this 4407 03:19:16,630 --> 03:19:14,869 is like breaking this down 1/2 by 1/4 4408 03:19:21,250 --> 03:19:16,640 inch piece of cinnamon stick so get like 4409 03:19:24,040 --> 03:19:21,260 a a 1 I'm gonna try that like get a half 4410 03:19:26,679 --> 03:19:24,050 inch piece of cinnamon stick one piece 2 4411 03:19:29,920 --> 03:19:26,689 tablespoons of cider vinegar 2 garlic 4412 03:19:32,909 --> 03:19:29,930 cloves quartered 1 teaspoon dried 4413 03:19:35,260 --> 03:19:32,919 oregano preferably Mexican crumbled 4414 03:19:59,319 --> 03:19:35,270 Michel did you actually get crumbled 4415 03:20:01,510 --> 03:19:59,329 Mexican oregano imported for this I just 4416 03:20:04,750 --> 03:20:01,520 had some shitty oregano from a wife 4417 03:20:06,579 --> 03:20:04,760 spice rack again when we have listeners 4418 03:20:09,099 --> 03:20:06,589 that are as saying is that parsley 4419 03:20:12,670 --> 03:20:09,109 there's I can understand that it's not 4420 03:20:18,340 --> 03:20:12,680 parsley god damn it it's cilantro it's 4421 03:20:21,279 --> 03:20:18,350 fresh cilantro not being cilantro snob 4422 03:20:23,800 --> 03:20:21,289 it's not parsley moving on 4423 03:20:26,619 --> 03:20:23,810 2 tablespoons of cider vinegar - Carla 4424 03:20:28,750 --> 03:20:26,629 cloves quartered quartered people not 4425 03:20:32,109 --> 03:20:28,760 not minced not diced not crushed 4426 03:20:34,329 --> 03:20:32,119 quartered know the [\h__\h] difference 1 4427 03:20:35,739 --> 03:20:34,339 teaspoon of dried oregano as I said a 4428 03:20:38,750 --> 03:20:35,749 perfect Mexican so we're going back a 4429 03:20:41,480 --> 03:20:38,760 couple 1 teaspoon salt 4430 03:20:43,881 --> 03:20:41,490 my god it's got salt in it pour that 4431 03:20:47,180 --> 03:20:43,891 [\h__\h] on top two to three tablespoons of 4432 03:20:49,940 --> 03:20:47,190 vinegar oil and for the sandwiches for 4433 03:20:54,140 --> 03:20:49,950 Mexican samhita rolls which or eight 4434 03:20:57,110 --> 03:20:54,150 sesame seed hamburger buns which which 4435 03:21:00,020 --> 03:20:57,120 in Virginia apparently get an abundance 4436 03:21:03,230 --> 03:21:00,030 they didn't have samhita rolls at the 4437 03:21:05,690 --> 03:21:03,240 supermarket they didn't so the hamburger 4438 03:21:08,360 --> 03:21:05,700 buns had to do I can't make my own bread 4439 03:21:10,551 --> 03:21:08,370 okay I don't you know you know I 4440 03:21:11,930 --> 03:21:10,561 understand Bigfoot can keep you busy 4441 03:21:13,551 --> 03:21:11,940 Mothman can keep you busy you know 4442 03:21:16,310 --> 03:21:13,561 [\h__\h] go plan go check out Denver 4443 03:21:18,860 --> 03:21:16,320 Michaels dotnet our culture dotnet and 4444 03:21:20,960 --> 03:21:18,870 go read the goddamn block by his [\h__\h] 4445 03:21:24,290 --> 03:21:20,970 books cuz he is so [\h__\h] awesome 4446 03:21:25,761 --> 03:21:24,300 oh my god it's like I I've actually 4447 03:21:27,770 --> 03:21:25,771 started reading the third book again 4448 03:21:29,120 --> 03:21:27,780 at the cottage and it's like it's it's 4449 03:21:32,600 --> 03:21:29,130 still as good as the first time I my 4450 03:21:34,970 --> 03:21:32,610 swear it's you know that you're no dude 4451 03:21:38,240 --> 03:21:34,980 I I brought you on like reading like ice 4452 03:21:40,131 --> 03:21:38,250 bed read your book twice the day you 4453 03:21:41,600 --> 03:21:40,141 came on after order read it once 4454 03:21:43,430 --> 03:21:41,610 beforehand for your first interview in 4455 03:21:48,381 --> 03:21:43,440 like Episode three or four like dude 4456 03:21:51,650 --> 03:21:48,391 your writing style is real come on going 4457 03:21:55,070 --> 03:21:51,660 on too many sandwiches to read 4458 03:21:57,620 --> 03:21:55,080 California avocados again four rolls or 4459 03:22:00,890 --> 03:21:57,630 eight sesame seed hamburger buns 1/2 cup 4460 03:22:04,160 --> 03:22:00,900 fresh papalo leaves or cilantro leaves 4461 03:22:07,341 --> 03:22:04,170 if you would six ounces of oxic on 4462 03:22:09,500 --> 03:22:07,351 string cheese specifically oxic on 4463 03:22:16,790 --> 03:22:09,510 string cheese Michael what is oxic on 4464 03:22:25,341 --> 03:22:16,800 string cheese exactly actually in half 4465 03:22:31,060 --> 03:22:25,351 string cheese so I used oil it's 4466 03:22:43,620 --> 03:22:36,511 yeah okay perfect and you took anything 4467 03:22:48,400 --> 03:22:46,360 this is also a again I know I know the 4468 03:22:50,980 --> 03:22:48,410 the web address is a little long I'm 4469 03:22:53,050 --> 03:22:50,990 gonna post it on the blog post as well 4470 03:22:57,430 --> 03:22:53,060 once we post the recipe Huntington 4471 03:22:59,380 --> 03:22:57,440 strange travels wordpress.com again 4472 03:23:04,470 --> 03:22:59,390 Michael Huntington is a traveling writer 4473 03:23:07,150 --> 03:23:04,480 and you apologist researcher journalist 4474 03:23:08,890 --> 03:23:07,160 he's just [\h__\h] awesome 4475 03:23:11,230 --> 03:23:08,900 and if he can cook a sandwich that good 4476 03:23:12,610 --> 03:23:11,240 while also researching the mysteries of 4477 03:23:14,680 --> 03:23:12,620 the universe with regards to the 4478 03:23:17,050 --> 03:23:14,690 scientific explanation behind UFOs and 4479 03:23:19,270 --> 03:23:17,060 aliens give the man a chance because 4480 03:23:21,940 --> 03:23:19,280 goddamn I can hardly run a podcast plus 4481 03:23:24,540 --> 03:23:21,950 my own business at this point so kudos 4482 03:23:27,640 --> 03:23:24,550 to you go check it out 4483 03:23:30,600 --> 03:23:27,650 that is the whole point of the show we 4484 03:23:34,649 --> 03:23:30,610 work together to make awesome happen now 4485 03:23:39,630 --> 03:23:37,939 did I go pass recipe oh [\h__\h] I did did I 4486 03:23:43,260 --> 03:23:39,640 know there we go 4487 03:23:44,700 --> 03:23:43,270 you know you are the cheese part so any 4488 03:23:46,290 --> 03:23:44,710 string cheese will do finely shredded 4489 03:23:50,840 --> 03:23:46,300 with your finger as one one-and-a-half 4490 03:23:55,019 --> 03:23:50,850 cups for canned chipotle chilies in a 4491 03:23:57,510 --> 03:23:55,029 bodo finely chopped just for canned 4492 03:24:01,830 --> 03:23:57,520 chipotle chilies finely chopped 1/2 4493 03:24:03,450 --> 03:24:01,840 large white onion thinly sliced thinly 4494 03:24:06,741 --> 03:24:03,460 did you slice your onions I'm seeing 4495 03:24:13,100 --> 03:24:06,751 they're very restaurant like 4496 03:24:16,341 --> 03:24:13,110 yeah from since I was just laughs 4497 03:24:21,191 --> 03:24:16,351 economy okay I didn't team Laird I 4498 03:24:24,651 --> 03:24:21,201 thought one one layer under the cheese 4499 03:24:28,100 --> 03:24:24,661 is I think onions you know xiii go well 4500 03:24:31,841 --> 03:24:28,110 and I didn't want the guacamole giving 4501 03:24:37,551 --> 03:24:31,851 him to achieve the tomato few months I 4502 03:24:40,581 --> 03:24:37,561 had another dividing layer so you must 4503 03:24:43,071 --> 03:24:40,591 be perfect thank you very much for that 4504 03:24:46,520 --> 03:24:43,081 and finally one large plum tomato thinly 4505 03:24:48,560 --> 03:24:46,530 sliced crosswise what is crosswise 4506 03:24:52,151 --> 03:24:48,570 exactly is that that that's not it like 4507 03:24:56,331 --> 03:24:52,161 across a hemisphere that's pulled a pole 4508 03:24:58,520 --> 03:24:56,341 yeah like you know the final circle out 4509 03:25:00,741 --> 03:24:58,530 of this minor you you're doing it sort 4510 03:25:09,801 --> 03:25:00,751 of at a different angle okay it's just 4511 03:25:12,171 --> 03:25:09,811 that I mean awesome thank you now you 4512 03:25:13,611 --> 03:25:12,181 can prepare Chili's and Porter to 4513 03:25:14,961 --> 03:25:13,621 prepare the Chili's and pork discard 4514 03:25:20,171 --> 03:25:14,971 chili stems 4515 03:25:24,831 --> 03:25:20,181 no snow stems no sticks no seeds and gut 4516 03:25:26,421 --> 03:25:24,841 guajillo and I'm on show Chili's open 4517 03:25:28,551 --> 03:25:26,431 I'm gonna get so much hate mail for not 4518 03:25:31,430 --> 03:25:28,561 people who pronounces properly the skirt 4519 03:25:33,230 --> 03:25:31,440 chili stems and cut guajillo and ancho 4520 03:25:38,241 --> 03:25:33,240 Chili's open lengthwise with kitchen 4521 03:25:40,730 --> 03:25:38,251 shears discard C's and ribs heat at dry 4522 03:25:43,491 --> 03:25:40,740 ten to twelve inch heavy skillet or 4523 03:25:48,470 --> 03:25:43,501 girdle or griddle over moderate heat 4524 03:25:52,161 --> 03:25:48,480 until hot heat until hot very very basic 4525 03:25:52,841 --> 03:25:52,171 then toast Chile's a few at a time not 4526 03:25:55,100 --> 03:25:52,851 all at once 4527 03:25:58,401 --> 03:25:55,110 turning and pressing down with tongs 4528 03:26:02,060 --> 03:25:58,411 until until softened and Frank a 4529 03:26:04,071 --> 03:26:02,070 fragrant about ten seconds per side now 4530 03:26:06,770 --> 03:26:04,081 transfer chilies to a bowl then cover 4531 03:26:08,390 --> 03:26:06,780 with hot water and soak until softened 4532 03:26:12,020 --> 03:26:08,400 which takes about twenty minutes 4533 03:26:12,020 --> 03:26:12,030 does it actually take twenty minutes 4534 03:26:20,251 --> 03:26:15,451 well I actually had a youth chili that 4535 03:26:24,180 --> 03:26:20,261 were already already every soft one yet 4536 03:26:27,600 --> 03:26:24,190 okay that one and there were an oil ogre 4537 03:26:29,520 --> 03:26:27,610 and chili oil oh [\h__\h] I think I gave you 4538 03:26:31,831 --> 03:26:29,530 guys like a massive project without even 4539 03:26:34,651 --> 03:26:31,841 realizing it flattened pork with chili 4540 03:26:37,140 --> 03:26:34,661 soaked trim fat and sinews from pork 4541 03:26:38,251 --> 03:26:37,150 blah blah blah marinate pork you know 4542 03:26:40,291 --> 03:26:38,261 I'm just gonna [\h__\h] post this to the 4543 03:26:41,970 --> 03:26:40,301 blog go check with 1004 comm go check 4544 03:26:43,440 --> 03:26:41,980 the news you know like even sunk to the 4545 03:26:46,230 --> 03:26:43,450 goddamn use letter I will send this [\h__\h] 4546 03:26:47,821 --> 03:26:46,240 out at some point today let's get to the 4547 03:26:50,220 --> 03:26:47,831 real thing at hand because I'm seeing 4548 03:26:51,631 --> 03:26:50,230 hurt our listenership kind of go down 4549 03:26:53,461 --> 03:26:51,641 once they realize like this is gonna 4550 03:26:55,531 --> 03:26:53,471 [\h__\h] take forever so go check out 4551 03:26:56,940 --> 03:26:55,541 dental or calm [\h__\h] it 4552 03:26:59,761 --> 03:26:56,950 even go check out the Facebook page I'll 4553 03:27:01,111 --> 03:26:59,771 post this [\h__\h] tomorrow morning guys how 4554 03:27:01,770 --> 03:27:01,121 is the sandwich let's get to the meat 4555 03:27:09,571 --> 03:27:01,780 and bones of it 4556 03:27:11,821 --> 03:27:09,581 it's awesome okay and Mike I can't 4557 03:27:15,081 --> 03:27:11,831 really see much spicy stuff so I just 4558 03:27:18,720 --> 03:27:15,091 had this portal buy things pretty good I 4559 03:27:21,031 --> 03:27:18,730 gave the rest of the time to keep some 4560 03:27:24,930 --> 03:27:21,041 plans and they they loved it they 4561 03:27:28,640 --> 03:27:24,940 thought it was great yeah pretty much 4562 03:27:33,991 --> 03:27:30,841 welcome Olli you know when you break it 4563 03:27:38,480 --> 03:27:34,001 down there's all different ways how to 4564 03:27:40,651 --> 03:27:38,490 throw that up you know yes good port and 4565 03:27:42,211 --> 03:27:40,661 I'm gonna say this much thank you very 4566 03:27:43,770 --> 03:27:42,221 much for participating if you want to be 4567 03:27:46,111 --> 03:27:43,780 able to join it on more you're more than 4568 03:27:47,850 --> 03:27:46,121 welcome to I would love to be able to 4569 03:27:49,680 --> 03:27:47,860 like even even if you don't want to do 4570 03:27:52,230 --> 03:27:49,690 the whole UFO consultancy thing just 4571 03:27:55,470 --> 03:27:52,240 just your culinary expertise would be 4572 03:27:57,991 --> 03:27:55,480 appreciated to make up for denver's 4573 03:28:00,480 --> 03:27:58,001 engineering culinary skills which are 4574 03:28:04,621 --> 03:28:00,490 station they should be the culinary 4575 03:28:06,031 --> 03:28:04,631 expert well the whole [\h__\h] this is a fun 4576 03:28:08,041 --> 03:28:06,041 for [\h__\h] sink like we talked about 4577 03:28:10,591 --> 03:28:08,051 conspiracies and murders and dark 4578 03:28:12,841 --> 03:28:10,601 projects and [\h__\h] UFOs and activism 4579 03:28:14,881 --> 03:28:12,851 and Clinton getting into power without 4580 03:28:16,560 --> 03:28:14,891 actually being elected there was some 4581 03:28:19,831 --> 03:28:16,570 dark [\h__\h] this is the whole point of 4582 03:28:21,901 --> 03:28:19,841 bringing people back up so we can get 4583 03:28:24,001 --> 03:28:21,911 them on that journey again yeah this is 4584 03:28:25,950 --> 03:28:24,011 this is the bright Sun and here exactly 4585 03:28:27,541 --> 03:28:25,960 we start 4586 03:28:30,841 --> 03:28:27,551 I would be one of those sandwiches out 4587 03:28:32,461 --> 03:28:30,851 lighter the TNT area you know I think 4588 03:28:34,921 --> 03:28:32,471 that would make a good match now I think 4589 03:28:39,421 --> 03:28:34,931 if you do have these sandwiches you can 4590 03:28:41,520 --> 03:28:39,431 I need this maybe I'll come up with some 4591 03:28:46,291 --> 03:28:41,530 original thing that you that you know 4592 03:28:49,200 --> 03:28:46,301 sort of you don't know what you're 4593 03:28:52,200 --> 03:28:49,210 asking for a man okay okay I'm getting 4594 03:28:53,791 --> 03:28:52,210 some bad sandwiches in that contest 4595 03:28:55,890 --> 03:28:53,801 all right you know what we actually we 4596 03:28:57,690 --> 03:28:55,900 actually did now I'm gonna put out the 4597 03:29:00,360 --> 03:28:57,700 next sandwich for this week ends just 4598 03:29:01,911 --> 03:29:00,370 able to get your record guys Denver one 4599 03:29:05,791 --> 03:29:01,921 out of the ten what would you give it 4600 03:29:09,121 --> 03:29:05,801 you know I'm real fond of Mexican 4601 03:29:11,640 --> 03:29:09,131 flavors so this was right even though my 4602 03:29:16,261 --> 03:29:11,650 sandwich looks stupid and look like [\h__\h] 4603 03:29:19,501 --> 03:29:16,271 I like pork and I love avocado so this 4604 03:29:21,661 --> 03:29:19,511 sandwich and I love spicy food so this 4605 03:29:23,940 --> 03:29:21,671 sandwich was right in my wheelhouse I 4606 03:29:26,310 --> 03:29:23,950 gave this a 9.5 if someone would have 4607 03:29:31,291 --> 03:29:26,320 submitted this it would have won the 4608 03:29:39,570 --> 03:29:31,301 contest you know what that's good to 4609 03:29:42,740 --> 03:29:39,580 know people please please oh my god I 4610 03:30:39,541 --> 03:29:42,750 [Music] 4611 03:30:43,921 --> 03:30:42,031 a good guy maybe that Reb inanity know 4612 03:30:48,121 --> 03:30:43,931 that yeah 4613 03:30:49,801 --> 03:30:48,131 oh that's awesome okay so we've got ten 4614 03:30:51,631 --> 03:30:49,811 out of ten I would even play a 12 out of 4615 03:30:55,801 --> 03:30:51,641 10 for you Denver I'm gonna say it's 4616 03:30:57,211 --> 03:30:55,811 five thumbs up and I'm yeah sure I got 4617 03:31:00,781 --> 03:30:57,221 loved it 4618 03:31:03,060 --> 03:31:00,791 so but of course I did leave the tomato 4619 03:31:06,810 --> 03:31:03,070 off so I did feed a little bit I went 4620 03:31:09,350 --> 03:31:06,820 real light on the onions all right the 4621 03:31:11,401 --> 03:31:09,360 next sandwich we are going to do and 4622 03:31:13,580 --> 03:31:11,411 this is one I can actually make it home 4623 03:31:19,309 --> 03:31:13,590 very easily 4624 03:31:23,099 --> 03:31:19,319 is going to be a breakfast yes sandwich 4625 03:31:24,090 --> 03:31:23,109 yes finally now you and I'm gonna get a 4626 03:31:26,489 --> 03:31:24,100 little bit graphic here you 4627 03:31:28,290 --> 03:31:26,499 [\h__\h] out there and what the 4628 03:31:28,620 --> 03:31:28,300 hell do I have a screen share that's 4629 03:31:31,080 --> 03:31:28,630 right 4630 03:31:32,460 --> 03:31:31,090 you [\h__\h] out there in den of 4631 03:31:36,149 --> 03:31:32,470 Laurel and all of your denizens out 4632 03:31:37,920 --> 03:31:36,159 there get ready for this [\h__\h] because 4633 03:31:40,710 --> 03:31:37,930 this is something and don't tell my wife 4634 03:31:42,649 --> 03:31:40,720 that my ex used to make for me well he 4635 03:31:44,790 --> 03:31:42,659 back in the day and she was also a chef 4636 03:31:46,229 --> 03:31:44,800 come to think of it there was two things 4637 03:31:47,429 --> 03:31:46,239 that she was good at and sandwich-making 4638 03:31:54,510 --> 03:31:47,439 was one of them other than that she was 4639 03:31:56,550 --> 03:31:54,520 kind of a [\h__\h] then you know what again 4640 03:31:58,050 --> 03:31:56,560 I'm not gonna say who it was but I'm 4641 03:31:59,969 --> 03:31:58,060 very glad that I'm with the woman that 4642 03:32:02,760 --> 03:31:59,979 I'm with because she's an amazing lovely 4643 03:32:05,460 --> 03:32:02,770 person whom I worked so goddamn hard for 4644 03:32:08,340 --> 03:32:05,470 she inspires me to great things this is 4645 03:32:12,389 --> 03:32:08,350 what a relationship is about to coin a 4646 03:32:13,679 --> 03:32:12,399 very cheesy cliche movie fate phrase you 4647 03:32:15,809 --> 03:32:13,689 make me she makes me want to be a better 4648 03:32:20,099 --> 03:32:15,819 man and that's why I work so goddamn 4649 03:32:22,469 --> 03:32:20,109 hard so babe do not take offense from 4650 03:32:24,989 --> 03:32:22,479 this in any way shape or form but this 4651 03:32:27,090 --> 03:32:24,999 is my ex's recipe so get your pens and 4652 03:32:28,469 --> 03:32:27,100 papers ready it is going to be a 4653 03:32:31,091 --> 03:32:28,479 breakfast sandwich is going to have 4654 03:32:37,680 --> 03:32:31,101 chicken breasts 4655 03:32:42,820 --> 03:32:37,690 barbeque sauce bacon smoked prosciutto 4656 03:32:47,770 --> 03:32:42,830 actual smoked prosciutto olives onions 4657 03:32:49,211 --> 03:32:47,780 a sprig of lettuce and but I'm gonna 4658 03:32:51,160 --> 03:32:49,221 follow up with you guys in terms of the 4659 03:32:52,900 --> 03:32:51,170 recipe it's actually very easy took her 4660 03:32:55,001 --> 03:32:52,910 about 15 minutes I got it down to about 4661 03:32:58,330 --> 03:32:55,011 10 myself it wasn't as pretty as hers 4662 03:33:01,870 --> 03:32:58,340 but God it was good and most importantly 4663 03:33:04,990 --> 03:33:01,880 a sunny-side up not over easy an actual 4664 03:33:09,131 --> 03:33:05,000 sunny-side up egg without putting the 4665 03:33:10,870 --> 03:33:09,141 lid on so you fry the egg the way that 4666 03:33:12,490 --> 03:33:10,880 you just like basically spray the Paris 4667 03:33:15,070 --> 03:33:12,500 some like olive oil not extra virgin 4668 03:33:16,660 --> 03:33:15,080 olive oil because you don't need to do 4669 03:33:19,570 --> 03:33:16,670 that [\h__\h] use the extra virgin for your 4670 03:33:22,211 --> 03:33:19,580 salad dressing olive oils get enough for 4671 03:33:24,011 --> 03:33:22,221 actual cooking and you cook your egg 4672 03:33:25,841 --> 03:33:24,021 until you start to see some white spots 4673 03:33:27,520 --> 03:33:25,851 on there obviously one egg is gonna have 4674 03:33:30,100 --> 03:33:27,530 more white spots than another that's 4675 03:33:32,860 --> 03:33:30,110 what you only do one egg and what you do 4676 03:33:34,570 --> 03:33:32,870 is you put a you can put this on a 4677 03:33:36,390 --> 03:33:34,580 sesame seed bun I actually used to do it 4678 03:33:38,980 --> 03:33:36,400 on ciabatta bun myself 4679 03:33:42,490 --> 03:33:38,990 actual you know square ciabatta bun you 4680 03:33:44,171 --> 03:33:42,500 can put it on a full size double bun but 4681 03:33:45,490 --> 03:33:44,181 I'm gonna try and switch back here cuz 4682 03:33:46,690 --> 03:33:45,500 this the sandwich I'm gonna eat 4683 03:33:47,770 --> 03:33:46,700 something after this show mo I'm just 4684 03:33:49,211 --> 03:33:47,780 gonna kill me cuz it's gonna be like one 4685 03:33:52,810 --> 03:33:49,221 o'clock I'm like honey I needed to eat 4686 03:33:54,580 --> 03:33:52,820 we talked sandwiches so she about a 4687 03:33:58,560 --> 03:33:54,590 button right here the ladies and 4688 03:34:02,740 --> 03:33:58,570 gentlemen like this mm-hmm on this side 4689 03:34:10,660 --> 03:34:02,750 mayonnaise this side mustard lettuce 4690 03:34:14,461 --> 03:34:10,670 lettuce okay so on a you're doing on the 4691 03:34:29,860 --> 03:34:14,471 top side mustard bottom side mayonnaise 4692 03:34:31,360 --> 03:34:29,870 lettuce mayonnaise on Oh trust me I'm 4693 03:34:33,220 --> 03:34:31,370 not that well this the whole thing like 4694 03:34:37,480 --> 03:34:33,230 you you can use chipotle mayo for this 4695 03:34:39,041 --> 03:34:37,490 [\h__\h] okay okay we used to play I used to 4696 03:34:40,360 --> 03:34:39,051 put some chipotle mayo in there and it 4697 03:34:44,320 --> 03:34:40,370 was just fantastic 4698 03:34:47,920 --> 03:34:44,330 so good now you're going to want to get 4699 03:34:49,240 --> 03:34:47,930 a chicken breast chicken breast 4700 03:34:51,730 --> 03:34:49,250 depending on where you get it from if 4701 03:34:53,830 --> 03:34:51,740 you believe the conspiracies out there 4702 03:34:55,270 --> 03:34:53,840 it's all pumped full of hormones it 4703 03:34:56,170 --> 03:34:55,280 probably is especially the United States 4704 03:34:58,060 --> 03:34:56,180 Canada as well 4705 03:34:59,980 --> 03:34:58,070 you take that chicken breast you cut it 4706 03:35:02,590 --> 03:34:59,990 in half you save it for a second 4707 03:35:06,639 --> 03:35:02,600 sandwich or later on in the afternoon so 4708 03:35:10,240 --> 03:35:06,649 you fry that chicken breast up until you 4709 03:35:13,450 --> 03:35:10,250 feel that it's ready and what you're 4710 03:35:17,440 --> 03:35:13,460 gonna do is also fry it in balsamic 4711 03:35:20,980 --> 03:35:17,450 vinegar olive oil salt and pepper and 4712 03:35:22,480 --> 03:35:20,990 just a little bit of if you have it in 4713 03:35:26,980 --> 03:35:22,490 the United States it's called a 4714 03:35:28,929 --> 03:35:26,990 clubhouse garlic spice I'm not sure if 4715 03:35:31,270 --> 03:35:28,939 you have it out there where you are 4716 03:35:33,960 --> 03:35:31,280 might be a Canadian brand otherwise just 4717 03:35:36,820 --> 03:35:33,970 use garlic salt a little bit of you know 4718 03:35:39,340 --> 03:35:36,830 parsley oregano basil and throw that in 4719 03:35:42,730 --> 03:35:39,350 there with some severe pinch of chili 4720 03:35:45,670 --> 03:35:42,740 powder if we can find some apple butter 4721 03:35:48,190 --> 03:35:45,680 barbecue sauce in a can or in a bottle 4722 03:35:50,290 --> 03:35:48,200 go for it or you can make your own it's 4723 03:35:52,450 --> 03:35:50,300 up to you so you fry the chicken breast 4724 03:35:55,300 --> 03:35:52,460 in that after it's marinated for 24 4725 03:35:56,920 --> 03:35:55,310 hours or you can do it for half an hour 4726 03:36:00,810 --> 03:35:56,930 I like to do it for at least overnight 4727 03:36:03,639 --> 03:36:00,820 that's my thing so you've got your bun 4728 03:36:06,190 --> 03:36:03,649 mustard on one side may or Tripoli may 4729 03:36:09,070 --> 03:36:06,200 on the other lettuce on both sides your 4730 03:36:12,790 --> 03:36:09,080 chicken breast is have has been 4731 03:36:14,740 --> 03:36:12,800 marinated in a very good concoction of 4732 03:36:19,540 --> 03:36:14,750 apple butter sauce possibly some 4733 03:36:23,170 --> 03:36:19,550 balsamic possibly some olive oil oregano 4734 03:36:24,670 --> 03:36:23,180 basil some garlic salt or even just chop 4735 03:36:26,469 --> 03:36:24,680 ups and crush some garlic I just really 4736 03:36:29,650 --> 03:36:26,479 finely minced it throw it in there let 4737 03:36:31,780 --> 03:36:29,660 it sit throw the entire thing you know 4738 03:36:33,910 --> 03:36:31,790 the chicken breast and all into a pan 4739 03:36:35,320 --> 03:36:33,920 and fry that [\h__\h] up until it is good 4740 03:36:39,130 --> 03:36:35,330 and ready and there's no pink because 4741 03:36:42,910 --> 03:36:39,140 pink is bad and after that you're gonna 4742 03:36:44,980 --> 03:36:42,920 want to get some bacon I recommend maple 4743 03:36:48,190 --> 03:36:44,990 smoked bacon if you could find it it's 4744 03:36:50,410 --> 03:36:48,200 Canadian things now we have it now here 4745 03:36:51,751 --> 03:36:50,420 Oh God but like is it real maple or is 4746 03:36:53,610 --> 03:36:51,761 it like that that 4747 03:36:57,030 --> 03:36:53,620 fake [\h__\h] because I've seen that fake 4748 03:37:00,001 --> 03:36:57,040 [\h__\h] no I mention this stuff over in the 4749 03:37:01,501 --> 03:37:00,011 stores fake but yeah okay well it looks 4750 03:37:04,951 --> 03:37:01,511 long as the taste of maple so you get 4751 03:37:06,930 --> 03:37:04,961 some make maple bacon thick cut if you 4752 03:37:11,070 --> 03:37:06,940 can find it because that should is 4753 03:37:13,621 --> 03:37:11,080 awesome beautiful three pieces you cook 4754 03:37:15,001 --> 03:37:13,631 it beside the chicken wait until it's 4755 03:37:17,070 --> 03:37:15,011 nice and crispy not enough so that it's 4756 03:37:19,110 --> 03:37:17,080 it's it's this that chewy leather but 4757 03:37:22,770 --> 03:37:19,120 crispy enough that when you bite into it 4758 03:37:26,070 --> 03:37:22,780 is this caramel amazing taste and only 4759 03:37:28,171 --> 03:37:26,080 has flavor so you have that you get your 4760 03:37:30,511 --> 03:37:28,181 prosciutto you can have it pre sliced I 4761 03:37:31,860 --> 03:37:30,521 get the pre-sliced packages we have a 4762 03:37:35,610 --> 03:37:31,870 certain kind here which I'm going to try 4763 03:37:39,661 --> 03:37:35,620 and post to the program in den of lore 4764 03:37:41,610 --> 03:37:39,671 calm it's just like a generic brand that 4765 03:37:44,041 --> 03:37:41,620 you get it like Canyon stores like metro 4766 03:37:45,900 --> 03:37:44,051 or Loblaws or Super Center or Sobeys 4767 03:37:47,190 --> 03:37:45,910 it's out there or you can go to the 4768 03:37:49,140 --> 03:37:47,200 butcher and actually get your pre sliced 4769 03:37:51,211 --> 03:37:49,150 like just get them a slice it and just 4770 03:37:54,110 --> 03:37:51,221 give it to you in a package that gets 4771 03:37:57,841 --> 03:37:54,120 thrown in there just for the hell of it 4772 03:37:59,940 --> 03:37:57,851 onions again about as thinly slice as 4773 03:38:01,621 --> 03:37:59,950 you'd find at a restaurant not like this 4774 03:38:03,270 --> 03:38:01,631 thick kind or you've got this ring and 4775 03:38:05,581 --> 03:38:03,280 it's like two inches deep no no just 4776 03:38:07,411 --> 03:38:05,591 thick yeah but like this deep about this 4777 03:38:09,541 --> 03:38:07,421 deep enough that you can actually close 4778 03:38:11,430 --> 03:38:09,551 your sandwich three you know just a 4779 03:38:13,320 --> 03:38:11,440 little bit of onion a three four rings 4780 03:38:15,690 --> 03:38:13,330 will do if you're if you're serving more 4781 03:38:18,631 --> 03:38:15,700 people you can cut up more than a bit of 4782 03:38:19,740 --> 03:38:18,641 an onion save the onion using your next 4783 03:38:23,620 --> 03:38:19,750 meal not a problem 4784 03:38:23,630 --> 03:38:30,679 want to have an olive on top 4785 03:38:35,210 --> 03:38:34,070 in a toothpick about that long which you 4786 03:38:36,469 --> 03:38:35,220 can use to hold this ammeter together 4787 03:38:40,460 --> 03:38:36,479 it's mostly for presentation but the 4788 03:38:44,450 --> 03:38:40,470 olive is delicious so you've got your 4789 03:38:45,920 --> 03:38:44,460 chicken breast onions put your 4790 03:38:48,679 --> 03:38:45,930 prosciutto about here 4791 03:38:51,260 --> 03:38:48,689 yes cocoa and then put your bacon on top 4792 03:38:54,290 --> 03:38:51,270 of that and then after that as I 4793 03:38:55,670 --> 03:38:54,300 mentioned the egg your fried egg which i 4794 03:38:58,490 --> 03:38:55,680 think is fried an American sunny-side up 4795 03:39:00,590 --> 03:38:58,500 here in Canada just again oil the pan 4796 03:39:04,030 --> 03:39:00,600 throw it in there put it on about to 4797 03:39:06,560 --> 03:39:04,040 medium heat until it is about some 4798 03:39:08,300 --> 03:39:06,570 golden brown on the bottom you can tell 4799 03:39:10,520 --> 03:39:08,310 there's some crunch do not break the 4800 03:39:12,230 --> 03:39:10,530 yolk and you should start to see some 4801 03:39:15,230 --> 03:39:12,240 whites coming up I recommend about three 4802 03:39:18,410 --> 03:39:15,240 spots of white depending on your pan do 4803 03:39:21,710 --> 03:39:18,420 not cook it in a cast iron you're [\h__\h] 4804 03:39:24,950 --> 03:39:21,720 if you do that Teflon is is ideal 4805 03:39:27,889 --> 03:39:24,960 because it's already nonstick steel pans 4806 03:39:30,200 --> 03:39:27,899 are great as long as it will not stick 4807 03:39:32,120 --> 03:39:30,210 to the actual pan because the moment you 4808 03:39:34,639 --> 03:39:32,130 try and get that egg out of there if it 4809 03:39:37,520 --> 03:39:34,649 does your the whole thing is done you 4810 03:39:39,410 --> 03:39:37,530 have to start from from scratch so your 4811 03:39:41,810 --> 03:39:39,420 egg goes on top of all this so you've 4812 03:39:48,070 --> 03:39:41,820 got your your bottom bun mayo chipotle 4813 03:39:50,851 --> 03:39:48,080 mayo lettuce chicken onion prosciutto 4814 03:39:54,881 --> 03:39:50,861 your bacon 4815 03:39:56,831 --> 03:39:54,891 you're full AG now keep - eggs yolk has 4816 03:39:57,970 --> 03:39:56,841 not broken yet and the familiar you have 4817 03:40:00,881 --> 03:39:57,980 the other side of your bottom which just 4818 03:40:04,481 --> 03:40:00,891 has the mustard and a piece of lettuce 4819 03:40:06,071 --> 03:40:04,491 you take that you put them both together 4820 03:40:09,641 --> 03:40:06,081 and you take it the toothpick and you 4821 03:40:10,811 --> 03:40:09,651 squeeze it into the yolk if you've done 4822 03:40:13,211 --> 03:40:10,821 it properly the yolk should actually 4823 03:40:19,961 --> 03:40:13,221 break and then coat the rest of the 4824 03:40:21,641 --> 03:40:19,971 sandwich in its own juices also use if 4825 03:40:26,561 --> 03:40:21,651 you could find it it's it's a rare 4826 03:40:28,241 --> 03:40:26,571 delicacy wood smoked sea salt or just 4827 03:40:30,281 --> 03:40:28,251 use regular sea salt with some cracked 4828 03:40:32,531 --> 03:40:30,291 pepper regular peppercorns on the egg 4829 03:40:36,251 --> 03:40:32,541 don't have to do too much or too crazy 4830 03:40:39,851 --> 03:40:36,261 salt to taste and you will have one of 4831 03:40:41,351 --> 03:40:39,861 the most orgasmic breakfast sandwiches 4832 03:40:46,421 --> 03:40:41,361 that you will never [\h__\h] have in your 4833 03:40:49,451 --> 03:40:46,431 entire goddamn life I'm off in three and 4834 03:40:51,311 --> 03:40:49,461 a half years with that woman it was 4835 03:40:52,781 --> 03:40:51,321 again two reasons I was there because 4836 03:40:59,261 --> 03:40:52,791 she was a [\h__\h] [\h__\h] and one of them 4837 03:41:01,001 --> 03:40:59,271 was the goddamn sandwiches yeah he put 4838 03:41:03,581 --> 03:41:01,011 up with a lot of crazy [\h__\h] for that 4839 03:41:07,061 --> 03:41:03,591 don't ya oh that that's not even my 4840 03:41:09,270 --> 03:41:07,071 crazy girlfriend life Michael what do 4841 03:41:12,690 --> 03:41:09,280 you think of that 4842 03:41:14,820 --> 03:41:12,700 now that sounds really good that it 4843 03:41:19,650 --> 03:41:14,830 sounds like some three o'clock in the 4844 03:41:22,260 --> 03:41:19,660 morning a STONER food that and that you 4845 03:41:25,880 --> 03:41:22,270 know it's yeah that sounds great yeah I 4846 03:41:29,760 --> 03:41:25,890 love I love the egg dripping on yet 4847 03:41:32,700 --> 03:41:29,770 definitely drifting down that oh yeah 4848 03:41:34,740 --> 03:41:32,710 that that'll do it 4849 03:41:38,640 --> 03:41:34,750 yeah ticketed bacon you can't I don't 4850 03:41:40,830 --> 03:41:38,650 think you can lose however you took it 4851 03:41:42,270 --> 03:41:40,840 you know now you have to understand is 4852 03:41:44,250 --> 03:41:42,280 that even if you talk [\h__\h] and say like 4853 03:41:48,660 --> 03:41:44,260 Chris you're [\h__\h] crazy I will still 4854 03:41:50,910 --> 03:41:48,670 love you you know that so you have 4855 03:41:53,130 --> 03:41:50,920 you've had it here first from an actual 4856 03:41:55,740 --> 03:41:53,140 culinary artist artist I say the 4857 03:41:57,420 --> 03:41:55,750 sandwich is viable so you have your 4858 03:41:59,280 --> 03:41:57,430 recipe I will be posting that the 4859 03:42:01,560 --> 03:41:59,290 soonest I can actually get it tomorrow 4860 03:42:03,810 --> 03:42:01,570 morning on Friday which is going to be 4861 03:42:05,280 --> 03:42:03,820 the 16th I'm gonna have the episode up 4862 03:42:07,400 --> 03:42:05,290 first thing in the morning then I'm 4863 03:42:10,110 --> 03:42:07,410 going to work on the recipe for the 4864 03:42:13,710 --> 03:42:10,120 samhita then I'm going to transcribe 4865 03:42:16,020 --> 03:42:13,720 this amazing recipe so ladies and 4866 03:42:25,710 --> 03:42:16,030 gentlemen I'm gonna call the sandwich 4867 03:42:27,210 --> 03:42:25,720 the holy [\h__\h] burger you have to keep my 4868 03:42:31,920 --> 03:42:27,220 this is during my raving days 4869 03:42:33,540 --> 03:42:31,930 and let's just say is it 35 it's like 4870 03:42:35,190 --> 03:42:33,550 you kind of miss when you're like 25 4871 03:42:36,360 --> 03:42:35,200 you're like oh my god the things we used 4872 03:42:38,070 --> 03:42:36,370 to do with that age when they actually 4873 03:42:41,070 --> 03:42:38,080 had energy and I mention that when 4874 03:42:43,440 --> 03:42:41,080 you've had a little bit of beer and 4875 03:42:47,160 --> 03:42:43,450 maybe a [\h__\h] ton of MDMA in your system 4876 03:42:48,950 --> 03:42:47,170 well you've got pounding techno and then 4877 03:42:51,480 --> 03:42:48,960 you've got like a two days of blankness 4878 03:42:53,220 --> 03:42:51,490 maybe too generic way and you get the 4879 03:42:55,350 --> 03:42:53,230 sandwich which has all the protein and 4880 03:42:59,070 --> 03:42:55,360 all the vitamins you need to start your 4881 03:43:00,920 --> 03:42:59,080 day that's what the sandwich is people 4882 03:43:06,570 --> 03:43:00,930 it is the morning after 4883 03:43:09,920 --> 03:43:06,580 holy [\h__\h] so that is your assignment for 4884 03:43:14,540 --> 03:43:09,930 this week gentlemen do you accept 4885 03:43:16,849 --> 03:43:14,550 I accept your back into it oh my god 4886 03:43:18,109 --> 03:43:16,859 we've got we are continuing on Michael 4887 03:43:19,909 --> 03:43:18,119 you know that we're trolling you half 4888 03:43:22,189 --> 03:43:19,919 and we're hoping this will continue on 4889 03:43:24,019 --> 03:43:22,199 to the end of the year I'm sure I'm 4890 03:43:25,819 --> 03:43:24,029 sincerely and honestly and this is not 4891 03:43:28,159 --> 03:43:25,829 just the show talking or the Scotch I am 4892 03:43:30,199 --> 03:43:28,169 very appreciative and grateful of your 4893 03:43:34,340 --> 03:43:30,209 participation in this a new way shape or 4894 03:43:35,779 --> 03:43:34,350 form because that's how we are and thank 4895 03:43:38,840 --> 03:43:35,789 you very much for your time your effort 4896 03:43:41,090 --> 03:43:38,850 your love and your expertise in this 4897 03:43:44,149 --> 03:43:41,100 segment and is making is awesome and 4898 03:43:45,739 --> 03:43:44,159 legitimate as we can make it well you 4899 03:43:47,359 --> 03:43:45,749 know it's awesome to have somebody that 4900 03:43:51,199 --> 03:43:47,369 knows what he's talking about talking 4901 03:43:53,540 --> 03:43:51,209 about food and he's also a he's a writer 4902 03:43:55,250 --> 03:43:53,550 look we have a kinship I mean you know 4903 03:43:56,750 --> 03:43:55,260 he knows what he's talking about he can 4904 03:43:59,750 --> 03:43:56,760 actually bring something to the table 4905 03:44:02,599 --> 03:43:59,760 here I'm just some jackoff the neat 4906 03:44:04,340 --> 03:44:02,609 sandwiches which is why we have the 4907 03:44:06,649 --> 03:44:04,350 amazing music which is been running for 4908 03:44:08,359 --> 03:44:06,659 about an hour now it's the whole joke of 4909 03:44:10,370 --> 03:44:08,369 the show is that you as a 4910 03:44:11,540 --> 03:44:10,380 cryptozoologist are taking completely 4911 03:44:13,699 --> 03:44:11,550 out of the field but you were looking 4912 03:44:16,189 --> 03:44:13,709 for food now I want to make sure you 4913 03:44:17,960 --> 03:44:16,199 want very well fed because genuinely 4914 03:44:19,609 --> 03:44:17,970 Denver we actually care about you and I 4915 03:44:22,969 --> 03:44:19,619 do care about you this is not well 4916 03:44:25,370 --> 03:44:22,979 that's not showmanship we want you to be 4917 03:44:27,739 --> 03:44:25,380 in tip-top shape when you make your 4918 03:44:30,050 --> 03:44:27,749 discovery and at the end of the day man 4919 03:44:32,000 --> 03:44:30,060 we got your back 110% if we got to bring 4920 03:44:35,210 --> 03:44:32,010 expertise and you know bring some 4921 03:44:37,090 --> 03:44:35,220 culinary knowledge and love from 4922 03:44:40,340 --> 03:44:37,100 somebody who's been there and done that 4923 03:44:45,679 --> 03:44:40,350 sanitized I'll do it cuz man brother I 4924 03:44:47,989 --> 03:44:45,689 got you back okay gentlemen that is the 4925 03:44:49,760 --> 03:44:47,999 show my wife is going to be waking up 4926 03:44:52,210 --> 03:44:49,770 very soon from her three hours of sleep 4927 03:44:58,689 --> 03:44:52,220 going Chris where the [\h__\h] are you 4928 03:45:02,429 --> 03:44:58,699 making magic taste buds happen 4929 03:45:05,319 --> 03:45:02,439 so I'm going to play our new official 4930 03:45:07,059 --> 03:45:05,329 hopefully um give me a second here guys 4931 03:45:09,609 --> 03:45:07,069 I actually you know what I have not 4932 03:45:12,580 --> 03:45:09,619 actually a time to find you from our 4933 03:45:13,840 --> 03:45:12,590 list of music so give me a second here 4934 03:45:18,869 --> 03:45:13,850 I'm going to do some quick research from 4935 03:45:20,649 --> 03:45:18,879 our back history I just deleted the site 4936 03:45:25,179 --> 03:45:20,659 youtube-dot-com forward-slash dental 4937 03:45:26,109 --> 03:45:25,189 floor so we had Steve and you know I'm 4938 03:45:27,460 --> 03:45:26,119 gonna throw this out there Michael we 4939 03:45:30,760 --> 03:45:27,470 had Steve ambassador on the show today 4940 03:45:32,679 --> 03:45:30,770 and we talked quite a lot about a lot of 4941 03:45:34,599 --> 03:45:32,689 things what is it what is your opinion 4942 03:45:37,661 --> 03:45:34,609 of the disclosure movement from his 4943 03:45:37,671 --> 03:45:41,530 well 4944 03:45:46,360 --> 03:45:44,530 I approach apology from a different 4945 03:45:49,210 --> 03:45:46,370 viewpoint I'm more interested in 4946 03:45:51,780 --> 03:45:49,220 investigating phenomena and being out 4947 03:45:54,550 --> 03:45:51,790 you know what's looking to promote 4948 03:45:58,390 --> 03:45:54,560 people being into the in the field and 4949 03:46:02,470 --> 03:45:58,400 investigating cases the disclosure 4950 03:46:06,820 --> 03:46:02,480 movement sort of comes with the the 4951 03:46:08,710 --> 03:46:06,830 promise that ok the aliens are here the 4952 03:46:11,500 --> 03:46:08,720 don't let notice about it the 4953 03:46:13,990 --> 03:46:11,510 government's covering it up and it's now 4954 03:46:17,470 --> 03:46:14,000 upon us the pressure upon them to 4955 03:46:20,460 --> 03:46:17,480 disclose what they know so you know it 4956 03:46:25,720 --> 03:46:20,470 sort of comes with a built-in 4957 03:46:27,460 --> 03:46:25,730 extra-terrestrial hypothesis bias that I 4958 03:46:30,850 --> 03:46:27,470 don't think necessarily necessarily 4959 03:46:33,090 --> 03:46:30,860 applies to all anomalous phenomena not 4960 03:46:36,220 --> 03:46:33,100 to say that it you know there's not a 4961 03:46:39,880 --> 03:46:36,230 there's not a you know a valid EP 4962 03:46:41,110 --> 03:46:39,890 component and a conspiracy but you know 4963 03:46:45,670 --> 03:46:41,120 I don't think that's all-encompassing 4964 03:46:50,560 --> 03:46:45,680 for all of all the anomalies with you 4965 03:46:54,420 --> 03:46:50,570 know within the UFO world and I I think 4966 03:46:56,980 --> 03:46:54,430 there's a lot of conspiracy theory 4967 03:47:00,280 --> 03:46:56,990 things involved and it's hard to keep 4968 03:47:04,470 --> 03:47:00,290 track of you know which interpretation 4969 03:47:07,930 --> 03:47:04,480 of conspiracy do the accurate one and 4970 03:47:10,360 --> 03:47:07,940 seems like the disclosure movements kind 4971 03:47:12,340 --> 03:47:10,370 of become more you know of a belief or 4972 03:47:15,790 --> 03:47:12,350 some you know like a cult-like belief 4973 03:47:17,200 --> 03:47:15,800 system in a lot of ways where you know 4974 03:47:19,270 --> 03:47:17,210 their mind is made up 4975 03:47:21,850 --> 03:47:19,280 you don't need to do research anymore we 4976 03:47:24,160 --> 03:47:21,860 all need to do investigation anymore we 4977 03:47:26,200 --> 03:47:24,170 just have to wait for word you know the 4978 03:47:28,450 --> 03:47:26,210 day of disclosure which is you know like 4979 03:47:33,640 --> 03:47:28,460 some kind of messianic day that is when 4980 03:47:34,900 --> 03:47:33,650 to occur I I didn't respect ideas of you 4981 03:47:38,050 --> 03:47:34,910 know using the Freedom of Information 4982 03:47:39,761 --> 03:47:38,060 Act and putting pressure upon the 4983 03:47:41,290 --> 03:47:39,771 government's really documents because 4984 03:47:43,450 --> 03:47:41,300 there are certainly things that have 4985 03:47:45,300 --> 03:47:43,460 been hidden you know whether or not 4986 03:47:48,190 --> 03:47:45,310 they're black projects or not that's 4987 03:47:52,880 --> 03:47:48,200 that's a different issue or and ETH 4988 03:47:58,670 --> 03:47:55,729 I don't know I kind of look at it more 4989 03:48:02,750 --> 03:47:58,680 like good you know I'm not into the 4990 03:48:04,819 --> 03:48:02,760 whole big Exopolitics movement and the 4991 03:48:07,699 --> 03:48:04,829 whole belief system it that goes with it 4992 03:48:11,659 --> 03:48:07,709 they people even political activism when 4993 03:48:14,029 --> 03:48:11,669 it comes to equality but you know it's 4994 03:48:16,580 --> 03:48:14,039 sort of a separate thing from what my 4995 03:48:21,279 --> 03:48:16,590 focuses and what I think that not 4996 03:48:26,840 --> 03:48:23,779 and that's a very rational standpoint 4997 03:48:28,519 --> 03:48:26,850 and it's kind of the whole idea you know 4998 03:48:31,189 --> 03:48:28,529 political activism is good in terms of 4999 03:48:33,050 --> 03:48:31,199 getting involved you don't get too deep 5000 03:48:35,929 --> 03:48:33,060 into it you'd be rational and it's about 5001 03:48:37,340 --> 03:48:35,939 there's a phenomenon and it exists let's 5002 03:48:39,439 --> 03:48:37,350 find out what it is that the government 5003 03:48:41,630 --> 03:48:39,449 knows about it they need to tell us and 5004 03:48:43,519 --> 03:48:41,640 I found all that you know that even if 5005 03:48:45,889 --> 03:48:43,529 you have that it's hard it's hard you 5006 03:48:47,809 --> 03:48:45,899 know sort of truck you know are you arts 5007 03:48:50,300 --> 03:48:47,819 what they tell you you know if it 5008 03:48:54,800 --> 03:48:50,310 happened very good a trust but you know 5009 03:48:58,399 --> 03:48:54,810 it's made you know you know anyway I'm 5010 03:49:00,830 --> 03:48:58,409 sorry don't apologize I asked your 5011 03:49:02,779 --> 03:49:00,840 opinion that was the whole thing 5012 03:49:05,330 --> 03:49:02,789 he gave it straight up and that's how we 5013 03:49:07,250 --> 03:49:05,340 [\h__\h] do it here thank you very much 5014 03:49:08,330 --> 03:49:07,260 for coming on the show it's pretty since 5015 03:49:09,729 --> 03:49:08,340 I prank called you knowing that you 5016 03:49:13,460 --> 03:49:09,739 might have didn't work 5017 03:49:15,469 --> 03:49:13,470 you're an hour behind us yeah oh thank 5018 03:49:17,540 --> 03:49:15,479 god okay I'm gonna try and plan this out 5019 03:49:21,710 --> 03:49:17,550 next week a little better 5020 03:49:25,309 --> 03:49:21,720 and I'm going to name this the Michael 5021 03:49:27,290 --> 03:49:25,319 Huntington clothes going forward your 5022 03:49:28,429 --> 03:49:27,300 name is gonna be on this show even if 5023 03:49:30,019 --> 03:49:28,439 you're involved in on even if you're 5024 03:49:32,359 --> 03:49:30,029 doing sandwiches are not because you 5025 03:49:36,649 --> 03:49:32,369 help me get this song back on the air 5026 03:49:40,550 --> 03:49:36,659 without issue this is our closing show 5027 03:49:42,621 --> 03:49:40,560 song spectrum sub diffusion mix from a 5028 03:49:45,841 --> 03:49:42,631 phonics 5029 03:49:48,390 --> 03:49:45,851 ladies and gentlemen my name is Chris 5030 03:49:49,770 --> 03:49:48,400 George Zuger I am your host thank you 5031 03:49:53,761 --> 03:49:49,780 for supporting in Washington end of war 5032 03:49:56,041 --> 03:49:53,771 and we will see you next week with none 5033 03:50:01,650 --> 03:49:56,051 other than let me get this graphic back 5034 03:50:06,751 --> 03:50:01,660 on the show scream mr. Mike Berra 5035 03:50:10,740 --> 03:50:06,761 himself UFOs lost evidence man on TV as 5036 03:50:14,041 --> 03:50:10,750 well as ancient aliens protege of none 5037 03:50:17,570 --> 03:50:14,051 other than Hoagland himself you need to 5038 03:50:21,871 --> 03:50:17,580 tune in next week we have a show for you 5039 03:50:26,820 --> 03:50:21,881 come in take your shoes off grab your 5040 03:50:30,610 --> 03:50:26,830 glass of Glenn relax and have your mind